C.Biscuit97 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 122 catches 1848 yards, 15 tds Since we traded for him he became Jerry Rice, so anything less than that is a disappointment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 85 catches, 1310 yards, & 8 TD's --> 16 games (If we play 16) Edited August 1, 2020 by snamsnoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: He wasn't the Vikings #1 receiver.... So your point is that he simultaneously was not in fact the #1 receiver, but also got more than enough targets. What a stretch. Dude, you’re so contrarian. Do you even know why you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: He wasn't the Vikings #1 receiver.... Wrong as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: So your point is that he simultaneously was not in fact the #1 receiver, but also got more than enough targets. What a stretch. Dude, you’re so contrarian. Do you even know why you do it? I was correcting the errors in your posts: It is false that he got "hardly any" targets from Cousins (others have corrected you on that as well--yet you keep digging deeper and deeper...). It is false that he was the #1 WR (unless you mean after their #1WR was injured). See? It's hardly "contrarian" to point out obvious BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: So now 243 targets in 2 years defines "didn't get any targets"? 10 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea that was a bizarre take. From the list I’m looking at on ESPN he’s the only wr in the top 20 for yds that saw less than 100 targets. He had 94. The next closest is 113. Last year he wasn’t targeted nearly as much as other high profile wr’s. That’s a fact. It’s not a bizarre take IMO. Edited August 1, 2020 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: From the list I’m looking at on ESPN he’s the only wr in the top 20 for yds that saw less than 100 targets. He had 94. The next closest is 113. He’s not been targeted nearly as much as other high profile wr’s. It’s not a bizarre take IMO. He's been in the league for more than a season...scroll up to your post above to see the 2 year total. For the past 3 seasons, he has had 338 targets. In '17 and '18 he was not the primary target (Theilen was by numbers). So that's 244 targets for a #2 WR those 2 seasons. "Didn't get any"---is ridiculous, and bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Well since 2015 his low end was in 2018 at 10 yds./r, and high end was 17.9 yds/r in 2019. Basically the middle ground was around 13 and change. I am forecasting like I used to do with my sales reps as I was always pushed by my AVP for monthly forecasts and was educated I needed to be within 2%. The best way for me to do that was looking at run rates, not listening as much to the pie in the sky individual forecasts as some are constantly pessimistic or the opposite are hopelessly optimistic. With that said, I’m guessing 81 receptions for 13.5 yds./r, and 1100 yards. I know being a true #1 a number of people are guessing a lot more, but I’m considering Brown and Beasley will also have good seasons, and we’ll run the ball even more between Singletary, Moss and Allen. They won’t walk away from Allen in some impromptu and designed runs as it makes our offense scary. I do think we will have a very balanced attack which will make us dangerous. The problem already discussed is facing the Chiefs, Broncos, Titans, 49ers, Hawks, and even the probably improved Cardinals. If we were playing last year’s schedule, I’d say the stats would be even higher. As long as we have a full season and hopeful of that point, we will have a battle hardened team, and will go into the playoffs with a home game, and ready to play the toughest teams in the AFC. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 76 Receptions, 1,123 yards, and 7 TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: I was correcting the errors in your posts: It is false that he got "hardly any" targets from Cousins (others have corrected you on that as well--yet you keep digging deeper and deeper...). It is false that he was the #1 WR (unless you mean after their #1WR was injured). See? It's hardly "contrarian" to point out obvious BS. Its an inherent contradiction. It you agree that he is here to be a #1, but that before he was a #2, then by definition he was not getting a sufficient number of targets. Easy and obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Its an inherent contradiction. It you agree that he is here to be a #1, but that before he was a #2, then by definition he was not getting a sufficient number of targets. Easy and obvious. He is in Buffalo to be #1. He will get a lot of targets. He got a lot of targets as a #2 in Minnesota from Cousins. Not "hardly any", as you bizarrely claimed. There is no contradiction. Your claim was flatly wrong--by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: He is in Buffalo to be #1. He will get a lot of targets. He got a lot of targets as a #2 in Minnesota from Cousins. Not "hardly any", as you bizarrely claimed. There is no contradiction. Your claim was flatly wrong--by a mile. Sure, man. Im glad you are happy with the idea of giving Diggs 100 targets. I, and I would wager most, think that is obviously ridiculous. But you stay edgy, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: So your point is that he simultaneously was not in fact the #1 receiver, but also got more than enough targets. What a stretch. Dude, you’re so contrarian. Do you even know why you do it? Actually Diggs was their #1 receiver. You would know that if you watch the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, Protocal69 said: Actually Diggs was their #1 receiver. You would know that if you watch the games Read the rest if the thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Read the rest if the thread... ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Sure, man. Im glad you are happy with the idea of giving Diggs 100 targets. I, and I would wager most, think that is obviously ridiculous. But you stay edgy, man. Oh I think he'll get more than 100 easily. "Happy" with 100 targets? Of all the responders to the OP in this thread ONLY ONE (before me of course) has predicted more than 100. NOBODY else thinks it will be more. Even that poster estimated 122---which would slightly above what he averaged over 3 years with Cousins giving him "hardly any" targets. Why would you die on this molehill? Edited August 1, 2020 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: ok Mr WEO is the one you want to be disagreeing with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Mr WEO is the one you want to be disagreeing with I see. For the record I do believe Diggs will get over a 100 targets so you are not alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Thielen's going to struggle without Diggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 14 hours ago, TBBills said: If he doesn't have over 1k yards it means something bad happened to either think or Allen. I doubt he ever even thought of that. Or it means the NFL doesn’t play a full season. I would bet that, even if a season is completed, c. 4 weeks won’t be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, Doc said: Thielen's going to struggle without Diggs. That entire offense will struggle, teams will bring safeties into box to counter the dumpoffs to Cook which they couldn't do with Diggs and Thielen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, ny33 said: Or it means the NFL doesn’t play a full season. I would bet that, even if a season is completed, c. 4 weeks won’t be played. If they're as stupid as the Marlins... 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: That entire offense will struggle, teams will bring safeties into box to counter the dumpoffs to Cook which they couldn't do with Diggs and Thielen Yup. And no time for the rookie 1st rounder to get acclimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 18 hours ago, GreggTX said: He is one of the top receivers in the league. Still, he was catching passes from Kirk Cousins last year and I don't see how he'll be able to match those numbers catching passes from Josh Allen. I'll go with: 55 receptions 775 Yards 5 TD What's your guess? Wow You really must've hated that trade. 17 hours ago, NewEra said: Zero stats. No games. You're fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 17 hours ago, NoSaint said: 11 yards a catch? I think that’s the most outlandish metric in the thread. More outlandish - imo - is 100 catches. I just don't see any WR getting that in an offense I suspect will be run heavy. Plus the other talent at WR and the improvement I expect from Knox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Wow You really must've hated that trade. No, he just hates Josh. He hasn't posted (in his own thread) since people pointed out that John Brown had a career year with Josh, and I'll add that Beasley did as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Cancelled due to covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mr. K said: Cancelled due to covid Sooooo that's zero catches/zero yards? Noted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, inaugural balls said: Wow You really must've hated that trade. You're fun So if I said 72 catches for 1008 yards and 18 tds id be fun? Dude asked question. I answered question. I’m fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: So if I said 72 catches for 1008 yards and 18 tds id be fun? Dude asked question. I answered question. I’m fun. You sure as hell sound fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 59 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: You sure as hell sound fun. Because I don’t think there will be a season, i don’t sound fun. Logical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Because I don’t think there will be a season, i don’t sound fun. Logical Yes, ignoring the impending catastrophe, and imagining what could be, is fun. Choosing not to play that game, but also insisting on adding your negative two cents, is not fun. It’s a real “Karen” move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Yes, ignoring the impending catastrophe, and imagining what could be, is fun. Choosing not to play that game, but also insisting on adding your negative two cents, is not fun. It’s a real “Karen” move. Well I stand corrected. I guess I’m not fun, because I definitely don’t feel like predicting someone’s stats is “fun”. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 77 catches 1190 yards 8 TDS, 135 yards rushing (he now gets some of the jet sweep action) ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, NewEra said: Well I stand corrected. I guess I’m not fun, because I definitely don’t feel like predicting someone’s stats is “fun”. Different strokes for different folks I guess. It seems clear that The Outstanding Leader/Superior Person/Shining Star of Paektu Mountain/Great Sun of Life/Great Man Who Descended from Heaven will be sending you to the re-education camps where you will lose such non fun thoughts and learn never to question the greatness of the Democratic People's Republic of Bills. Run........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 22 hours ago, NewEra said: Zero stats. No games. I fear you may be correct, and I’d bet money it’s not 16 games. The only thing that would make sense is averages per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 23 hours ago, GreggTX said: He is one of the top receivers in the league. Still, he was catching passes from Kirk Cousins last year and I don't see how he'll be able to match those numbers catching passes from Josh Allen. I'll go with: 55 receptions 775 Yards 5 TD What's your guess? F@$% please nooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) On 7/31/2020 at 8:16 PM, GreggTX said: He is one of the top receivers in the league. Still, he was catching passes from Kirk Cousins last year and I don't see how he'll be able to match those numbers catching passes from Josh Allen. I'll go with: 55 receptions 775 Yards 5 TD What's your guess? So basically what you're saying is he's our new Cole Beasley? Beasley in 2019 67 rec 778 yds 6 TDs Can't believe we gave up a 1st rounder for another slot receiver.? Edited August 2, 2020 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 180 rec, 2300 yds, 30 tds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 10 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: So basically what you're saying is he's our new Cole Beasley? Beasley in 2019 67 rec 778 yds 6 TDs Can't believe we gave up a 1st rounder for another slot receiver.? "We" did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, Doc said: "We" did? Minnesota didn't exactly give him to us for a box of kicking tees and a couple old Don Beebe jerseys.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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