MAJBobby Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I don't know this isn't from his twitter or social media it's a private text conversation. This isn’t the first incident of this. If you read the trend there are a lot of people saying I knew it. He always acted that way etc etc. so I am sure with their extensive background checks flags were found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mango said: No Jake is ruining his own career. It’s an important distinction. Hold him accountable for his words, not the one who made them public. He made a mildly racist comment in jest in a private text message. You think your text history (or everything you have said aloud) could survive that kind of scrutiny? Even if there isn't a drop of racism, what about sexism? Transphobia? Xenophobia? Have you been 100% woke at all time your entire life? What about before being woke was a thing. Is your record spotless back then too? And, lets keep in mind, it doesn't matter if the comment was made in jest. Uttering the words is all that matters. I don't know man, that is a tough bar. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: he deserves some blowback and serious conversations. How he handles those would be a major test of whether he stays. Well so far his Agency has hung up on a media looking for response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 If it was a joke, it should be easy for Fromm to man up and apologize. If it was not a joke, it should be easy for Fromm to man up and apologize. People are much more forgiving than we give them credit for. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 the bills have a leadership committe right? send it to them and see what should happen. it's one of those situations where is an apology ok and he promises to do some community work and educate himself enough? or do you cut him? chad kelly has been arrested for breaking into homes, and how many other things and he's on a freaking team right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: he deserves some blowback and serious conversations. How he handles those would be a major test of whether he stays. Bingo - an apology from the heart will lead to forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Not sure the accuracy here but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, Warren Zevon said: Bingo - an apology from the heart will lead to forgiveness. Not in this climate. The Bills have to cut him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FireChans Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Not sure the accuracy here but. Lol a report impossible to get wrong by a nobody. Keep this nonsense on Twitter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: He'll be released very soon. And then signed by NE where he will be an All Pro for the next decade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, MJS said: It's obviously a joke. A dumb joke and insensitive, but people say dumb things in private text conversations all the time. If he gets fired for this it shows what a backward world we live in. Getting fired for a private joke made in a private conversation? I guess Drew Brees should get fired for saying people shouldn't kneel during the anthem. Josh Allen should get fired for the tweets he sent as a teenager. And I am totally on board with the cause against police brutality and believe that African Americans have it much worse. I tend to agree - it was said in a personal conversation... doesn't necessarily represent his beliefs. But its also possibly the worst time something like this could be leaked out. And his teammates have all seen it at this point... What he says next will basically make or break whether he has a career or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well so far his Agency has hung up on a media looking for response. which is no commentary on his character, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Not in this climate. The Bills have to cut him. If he came out and had a sincere apology immediately (He still has time... but his reps hanging up on questions about this kind of makes it seem like he does not care) I would want him to remain a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just for Context reminder Patriots have a 3% as a Kicker. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, Warren Zevon said: If he came out and had a sincere apology immediately (He still has time... but his reps hanging up on questions about this kind of makes it seem like he does not care) I would want him to remain a Bill. What about Tre, who has been very vocal on Twitter? What about the other black (and white for that matter) players who have not been vocal? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Ugh. He’s as good as gone. Barkley and Davis Webb are happy Edited June 4, 2020 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, Warren Zevon said: If he came out and had a sincere apology immediately (He still has time... but his reps hanging up on questions about this kind of makes it seem like he does not care) I would want him to remain a Bill. I'd even go so far as to have an emotional like - speaking post. A written apology probably isn't enough here. Speak from the heart - accept responsibility and blame. Say how you're trying to be a better person - and give up some of that signing bonus towards a charity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: What about Tre, who has been very vocal on Twitter? What about the other black (and white for that matter) players who have not been vocal? That is their personal decision and I would respect it either way. My point is he needs to apologize. Period. Hiding from it does not help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, Warren Zevon said: That is their personal decision and I would respect it either way. My point is he needs to apologize. Period. Hiding from it does not help. Gotcha. He definitely needs to apologize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: What about Tre, who has been very vocal on Twitter? What about the other black (and white for that matter) players who have not been vocal? Needs to be open to sitting down with every single guy on the team... and being open to listening to them. Trying to understand where others are coming from. Empathy. He probably looks at casual joking racism as "im not really racist", but in all reality - that's something that enables deeper discrimination. Making it funny and OK is one of the main problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Now I am sure teams already knew this. They would have easily uncovered it and could be the very reason he was falling like a rock Plus, hes just not that good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So this one has now been deleted by the twitter person who: Owner of the Quarantine Comedy Club. Author of soon to be book “Think Like a Hoe, Act Like a N*gga.” Kylie Jenner posted me on her IG feed one time IG @d .funnys and is from London England So is this just some random twitter post you pulled from latest after searching Jake Fromm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Yeah so now we also have to get rid of Allen. I mean what he said was 10x worse. Fromm stated an existing reality, which is only elite white people can get silencers. I mean anyone can but not too many have the money and patience, not to mention ability to wade through the considerable process and paperwork to get a silencer. I'd love to get one myself so I dont bother the neighbors when I shoot, but there's no way i'm going through all that. Letting the crybullies run things is going to suck. Let's have a society where we're constantly tattling on each other and the punishment for wrongthink is the gulag. What could possibly go wrong? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 seems like it was definitely BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) I don't know if this has been stated here, but he released a statement with a link in Sal's Twitter feed. Acknowledges and owns it and then apologizes. I don't think that's good enough, but now we wait to see what the Bills' brass does. Edit: putting twitter link mentioned above in here Edited June 4, 2020 by Hapless Bills Fan adding link to actual tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: It is part of a thread, and Fromm allegedly says that guns are good (not a problem), that he should be allowed to get suppressors (silencers), and that they should make suppressors expensive enough so that only elite white people could get them. The response is basically "Wtf, you think you're elite? Look at your profile picture." If legit - and I am not saying it is - it's super-problematic for the obvious reasons, but also because Fromm has painted himself as Bible-quoting devout Christian whose hobby is praying. (I'm not making the last part up). https://sportsspectrum.com/sport/football/2019/08/30/georgia-qb-jake-fromm-follows-god-embraces-pressure-as-he-chases-elusive-title/ God and guns!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dezertbill Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 This is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 There are two constants in our universe, 1) Hydrogen, and 2) Stupidity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: The fact he has addressed the team already seems to indicate to me that they will not cut the cord on him immediately. Even though I probably would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Can someone please interpret the millennialese for me? Ditto and Triplicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, FluffHead said: The fact he has addressed the team already seems to indicate to me that they will not cut the cord on him immediately. Even though I probably would. If I was McDermott/Beane I would speak with the leaders of the team to get their take on the situation before making a decision either way. I give Fromm props for speaking to his teammates directly, though, and not just releasing an apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, FluffHead said: The fact he has addressed the team already seems to indicate to me that they will not cut the cord on him immediately. Even though I probably would. I’d cut him. Anything to upset the balance of the team right now needs to be gone. Seems like the JA stuff a few years back was handled internally and he earned the respect of his teammates. With emotions running high, I wouldn’t risk rocking the boat for a 5th rd noodle armed rookie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: His comments should upset working class people, regardless of race. Speaking of guns, police shoot white working class rural folks at almost the same rate as black urban folks. So his statement is classist, as well. Edited June 4, 2020 by leonbus23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I probably would have spoken out loud - but the messaging is fine i guess. It somewhat reads - sorry i got called out for something i said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 The 4th QB typically gets cut, anyway... sooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition And we'll all stay free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, billsfanmiami(oh) said: I’d cut him. Anything to upset the balance of the team right now needs to be gone. Seems like the JA stuff a few years back was handled internally and he earned the respect of his teammates. With emotions running high, I wouldn’t risk rocking the boat for a 5th rd noodle armed rookie. So you better be prepared to cut a bunch of other people too. Let's create a twitter army and go through every tweet by every player and any sign that they ever engaged in any kind of wrongthink, they must be cut immediately. Maybe send them to jail too because we can never be too pure as a people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, billsfanmiami(oh) said: I’d cut him. Anything to upset the balance of the team right now needs to be gone. Seems like the JA stuff a few years back was handled internally and he earned the respect of his teammates. With emotions running high, I wouldn’t risk rocking the boat for a 5th rd noodle armed rookie. I probably would at least consider it? Might be easier to stash on the PS now in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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