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6 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

AJ Green baby

 

5 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

it's unrealistic to expect to fill all those positions in free agency. some, but not al


I don’t think that’s true. WR1 will be the hardest, but there’s plenty of volume at the other spots. I mean, there are 13 starting OTs slated to hit the market.

 

EDGE defenders are in abundance. Off the top of my head there’s Clowney, Ngakoue, Addison, Fowler, Quinn, Armstead, Judon, Dupree, Vernon, Mercilus, Griffen, Beasley, Barrett, and JPP.

 

LB us relatively easy to fill.

 

So yeah, if they can manage to get AJ or swing a trade for someone else, then they can absolutely fill all of them in FA.

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2 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

He did play 17 out of 17 games this year and only missed 2 the year before I believe. I have read two different articles saying he had one of the best seasons of his career. I think he would be a great addition for a couple years while they groom a draft pick to replace him. Especially if Conklin is not an option.

 

Interesting I thought he had missed more. I know in the past he missed lots of time

 

He graded out well at pff. 78 overall

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2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 


I don’t think that’s true. WR1 will be the hardest, but there’s plenty of volume at the other spots. I mean, there are 13 starting OTs slated to hit the market.

 

EDGE defenders are in abundance. Off the top of my head there’s Clowney, Ngakoue, Addison, Fowler, Quinn, Armstead, Judon, Dupree, Vernon, Mercilus, Griffen, Beasley, Barrett, and JPP.

 

LB us relatively easy to fill.

 

So yeah, if they can manage to get AJ or swing a trade for someone else, then they can absolutely fill all of them in FA.

Yup. They'll probably do something at corner too.

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Just now, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Yup. They'll probably do something at corner too.


I think so as well. For me the big questions are: how do they get their WR1, and what do they choose to do at LG?

 

Getting Spain back at $5M or less would be a win IMO, but I really have my doubts about Ford at RT. Glad to have Nsekhe, but he’s going to be 35 and had a bad injury for a big dude.

 

I would really like to put Cody at LG and sign a young veteran with big-time upside like Fant to be the swing OT. Bring back Waddle and you’re all set IMO. Long is a capable IOL backup, and if Bates is your #9 OLman that’s not exactly a tragedy.

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3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


As for WR, I think there will be some vets available via trade that aren’t talked about right now. I have my eye on Marvin Jones and Allen Robinson. GMs with their butts on the line do odd things.

Any thoughts that maybe the Rams will deal one of their guys? 

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26 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

yeah, I’d disagree.   Seattle is better than Green Bay, last year playoff notwithstanding.   Rodgers also did nothing with J. Cook.  Knox had a comparable rookie year to many TE 1’s.  Hooper and Knox would be great together.   Hooper should come here

Yup. Bad year for Cook. He missed all the offseason workouts, OTAs, etc due to foot surgery, and then missed 6 games with a high ankle sprain. Although, come playoff time when Cook was healthy again he and Rodgers hooked up for 18 receptions, 228 yards, and 2 TDs.

 

Wilson is certainly better than Rodgers at this point, and the hawks have more playmakers on offense. GB has a better Oline. GB has serious issues stopping the run though. Whether the Seahawks are better as a point of fact is debatable since GB has won four of their last five head to head. I’d say it’s a wash though since the home team has won that contest for the past decade: every game since 08’! We will see what happens the next time they play. It’s usually fun to watch. 

17 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

He did play 17 out of 17 games this year and only missed 2 the year before I believe. I have read two different articles saying he had one of the best seasons of his career. I think he would be a great addition for a couple years while they groom a draft pick to replace him. Especially if Conklin is not an option.

I could live with it. Problem is that he plays dinged up all the time and it affects his performances, especially against speed rushers. 

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2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


The only guy that makes sense for them to move cap-wise is Woods. I mean, I suppose it’s possible that they’d move him, but I doubt it.

That would be crazy. 

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5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


The only guy that makes sense for them to move cap-wise is Woods. I mean, I suppose it’s possible that they’d move him, but I doubt it.

Just thinking that they kind of pushed their chips in last year and failed. It looks like the 49ers are going to be around. Just thinking that maybe they’d try to do something to look a little different next year. 

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2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

that line is terrible even with him. i wouldnt touch bulaga with gugnys genitalia

 

whats our biggest need?

How does gugny feel about this, asking for a friend ?

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2 hours ago, thebandit27 said:


Really?

 

 

By far WR1. Hope that Minnesota—who’s after a SB championship—trades a guy that they have repeatedly said they have no desire to trade isn’t a plan IMO.

Huge fan of Diggs coming to Buffalo
and while we are doing majic tricks (BeaneMeister ) Get Us Judon too.
 Is there a WR that even upgrades our middle of the pack in FA? For middle of the pack cash ?

 I am looking to the Draft to upgrade that group. get two after the 1st. But real ones. One who can start is especially important.

How do you know when you have your # 1 WR on McDermotts Team ?
He doesn't play ST.  haha

19 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

How does gugny feel about this, asking for a friend ?

I never suspected someone likable as yourself, would detour into the foul , dank , darkest darknesses.

#concerned

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6 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Huge fan of Diggs coming to Buffalo
and while we are doing majic tricks (BeaneMeister ) Get Us Judon too.
 Is there a WR that even upgrades our middle of the pack in FA? For middle of the pack cash ?

 I am looking to the Draft to upgrade that group. get two after the 1st. But real ones. One who can start is especially important.

How do you know when you have your # 1 WR on McDermotts Team ?
He doesn't play ST.  haha

I never suspected someone likable as yourself, would detour into the foul , dank , darkest darknesses.

#concerned

That was awesome ? ?? ?

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6 hours ago, thebandit27 said:


They can sign at least 2 elite FAs—I’m talking $15M/year, plus another $10M/year player, and still have $50M left to sign draft picks, sign Tre White to a record-breaking deal, and pay Dion Dawkins and Matt Milano without cutting anyone.


I hope you’re right.

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7 hours ago, CSBill said:


He also goes by “Mr” ?

Clever. My father’s family is from Palermo and the surname is uncommon so that led to the weirdness when I made the reservation & stated my name when I arrived.

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8 hours ago, Mr Info said:

Clever. My father’s family is from Palermo and the surname is uncommon so that led to the weirdness when I made the reservation & stated my name when I arrived.

Hopefully you got something free out of it before they realized 

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Yesterday on the combine coverage on NFL network they said the Jets will have to be active in FA and stockpile in the draft because they are in “Noah’s Ark mode”....they need 2 of everything.  ? 

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16 hours ago, DJB said:

 

Interesting I thought he had missed more. I know in the past he missed lots of time

 

He graded out well at pff. 78 overall

I would rather we spend big on either OL or DL because we know we can always take our shot at a WR1 in the loaded draft. Anyone saying we can get Diggs or Cooper are kidding themselves. I think Conklin makes sense because OL tends to play into their mid 30s so the investment is longer term and he is proven. DE tends to be a shorter window of production for a big price tag. 

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4 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Yesterday on the combine coverage on NFL network they said the Jets will have to be active in FA and stockpile in the draft because they are in “Noah’s Ark mode”....they need 2 of everything.  ? 


Basically.

 

They don’t have a starting OT under contract.

 

Their best pass rusher had 8.0 sacks and is a FA; their 2nd best pass rusher is a FA.

 

Their 3 best corners all allowed passer ratings of over 95.0.

 

4 of their top 5 tacklers were DBs.

 

2 minutes ago, Locomark said:

I would rather we spend big on either OL or DL because we know we can always take our shot at a WR1 in the loaded draft. Anyone saying we can get Diggs or Cooper are kidding themselves. I think Conklin makes sense because OL tends to play into their mid 30s so the investment is longer term and he is proven. DE tends to be a shorter window of production for a big price tag. 


Almost have to get a WR1 before the draft; can’t count on such an important component coming from an immediate rookie contribution in an offense as complex as Daboll’s.

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Just now, thebandit27 said:


Basically.

 

They don’t have a starting OT under contract.

 

Their best pass rusher had 8.0 sacks and is a FA; their 2nd best pass rusher is a FA.

 

Their 3 best corners all allowed passer ratings of over 95.0.

 

4 of their top 5 tacklers were DBs.

 

Yes they are a mess. That’s why I don’t think they draft a WR1 in round 1....Too many other needs. I think thy will go OT or DE depending on FA.

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4 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Yes they are a mess. That’s why I don’t think they draft a WR1 in round 1....Too many other needs. I think thy will go OT or DE depending on FA.


I see 11 as the most likely landing spot for Chaisson since I think there’s a real chance that all of Becton/Willis/Wirfs could be gone.

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There seem to be a plethora of good linebackers available this year in free agency, and the Bills clearly need to replace Lorenzo Alexander.

I hope this is the route they choose.

Kyle Fackrell, Joe Schobert, Blake Martinez, Jamie Collins, Nick Kwiatkowski, Danny Trevathan, and De'vondre Campbell will all likely hit the market. 

Depending on what the Bills want in a 2nd Will linebacker (I always thought Alexander played SAM, but Beane corrected that notion the other day), they could go a number of different directions. Personally, I like Fackrell because he also offers value as a pass rusher on 3rd down, and De'Vondre Campbell, because he's still young and would fit in nicely as an athletic linebacker who can play the run and cover fairly well.

I'm fine with a draftee, too, but with a bunch of offensive needs, not to mention corner, safety, and edge, I think they ought to pick from the above crop instead.

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6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


I see 11 as the most likely landing spot for Chaisson since I think there’s a real chance that all of Becton/Willis/Wirfs could be gone.

Fully agree. I think there will be a run on QBs, and OTs. If one of of top board WR1s gets to 13/14 it could get interesting.

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Just now, Locomark said:

Fully agree. I think there will be a run on QBs, and OTs. If one of of top board WR1s gets to 13/14 it could get interesting.

Not sure the colts slide back, tb at 14 makes a lot of sense. A WR is almost certainly going to den at 15 if they slide

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6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Not sure the colts slide back, tb at 14 makes a lot of sense. A WR is almost certainly going to den at 15 if they slide

I totally agree. I just quoted the same about Denver on another post. They are 100% WR. Colts are the question mark.

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Don't know how true or reliable the source is, but I saw an article yesterday saying the Bears and Bengals could be finalizing a deal for Dalton. Could be a good spot for him. Then hopefully at some point he could finish his career as a Lion.....

 

There's a bunch of interesting QBs and teams needing QBs this year, the league could look pretty different next year with new veteran  QBs in new homes

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27 minutes ago, Logic said:

There seem to be a plethora of good linebackers available this year in free agency, and the Bills clearly need to replace Lorenzo Alexander.

I hope this is the route they choose.

Kyle Fackrell, Joe Schobert, Blake Martinez, Jamie Collins, Nick Kwiatkowski, Danny Trevathan, and De'vondre Campbell will all likely hit the market. 

Depending on what the Bills want in a 2nd Will linebacker (I always thought Alexander played SAM, but Beane corrected that notion the other day), they could go a number of different directions. Personally, I like Fackrell because he also offers value as a pass rusher on 3rd down, and De'Vondre Campbell, because he's still young and would fit in nicely as an athletic linebacker who can play the run and cover fairly well.

I'm fine with a draftee, too, but with a bunch of offensive needs, not to mention corner, safety, and edge, I think they ought to pick from the above crop instead.

This defense plays so much sub packages it’s hard to know exactly what Zo was pegged as  in base packages. Seems like they had him at Sam though, I agree

16 minutes ago, Locomark said:

I totally agree. I just quoted the same about Denver on another post. They are 100% WR. Colts are the question mark.

I feel like Ruggs is destined for Denver. 

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9 minutes ago, Locomark said:

I totally agree. I just quoted the same about Denver on another post. They are 100% WR. Colts are the question mark.

As of now I see 9 jax, 10 cle, 14 tb and 16 atl that would be willing to slide back for more picks, but it all depends on how the feel on the blue chippers left and what needs they are looking to fill in the draft. 

 

Jax is cash strapped and will need more players to fill holes on their roster imo. The GM and HC are on their last legs and the inability to sign UFAs could easily push their attention to the draft to bolster the roster enough to save their jobs. This move would be very expensive, so our board better be right...

 

Cle will be looking hard at OT imo, but if they get exhausted quicker than 10, they could be a spot, especially with a new hc and gm who will want to shape the roster with more of their guys. 

 

TB we have a good trading relationship with and again, team needs could allow them to slide back and nab an extra pick or 2.

 

Atl is a cap hell team and will need as many picks as possible to flesh out their roster.

7 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Don't know how true or reliable the source is, but I saw an article yesterday saying the Bears and Bengals could be finalizing a deal for Dalton. Could be a good spot for him. Then hopefully at some point he could finish his career as a Lion.....

 

There's a bunch of interesting QBs and teams needing QBs this year, the league could look pretty different next year with new veteran  QBs in new homes

I can't recall a time where there was ever this much movement in regards to QBs

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I feel like Ruggs is destined for Denver. 

The savant Albright has him or Reagor pegged to Den. 

 

My personal opinion is that he sure fits past Raider WR profiles and it would shock me to see Mayock take him at 12. 

 

One of these 3 are going to slide a bit unless a big trade happens, which I could see Philly trying to do

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9 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Don't know how true or reliable the source is, but I saw an article yesterday saying the Bears and Bengals could be finalizing a deal for Dalton. Could be a good spot for him. Then hopefully at some point he could finish his career as a Lion.....

 

There's a bunch of interesting QBs and teams needing QBs this year, the league could look pretty different next year with new veteran  QBs in new homes

I like the Bears offense and QB situation as a fit for Dalton but I don’t like Windy City for him. His arm is built for the Chargers or a dome. Hes the quintessential September HOFer but always seemed like when it cold and windy in Ohio his arm couldn’t cut through it 

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44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

This defense plays so much sub packages it’s hard to know exactly what Zo was pegged as  in base packages. Seems like they had him at Sam though, I agree.

 


Yeah. Cover 1 and Chris Brown both called him a Will, and I was dubious. Then, Brandon Beane himself said the same and Lorenzo confirmed it on Twitter. In terms his size and physical profile and where/how he lined up, we all assumed he was a Sam. I'll be honest, I didn't know a defense COULD have two Wills, but I'm not going to question the GM and the player himself. 

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12 minutes ago, Logic said:


Yeah. Cover 1 and Chris Brown both called him a Will, and I was dubious. Then, Brandon Beane himself said the same and Lorenzo confirmed it on Twitter. In terms his size and physical profile and where/how he lined up, we all assumed he was a Sam. I'll be honest, I didn't know a defense COULD have two Wills, but I'm not going to question the GM and the player himself. 

I read somewhere that the Sam and Will in this D are pretty much interchangeable, as well as the SS and FS. It may have been cover 1

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1 hour ago, Locomark said:

Yesterday on the combine coverage on NFL network they said the Jets will have to be active in FA and stockpile in the draft because they are in “Noah’s Ark mode”....they need 2 of everything.  ? 

Nonsense.  They have about 2000 cases of smelling salts in the equipment room, and the supplier is on speed dial.  ?

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1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said:

As of now I see 9 jax, 10 cle, 14 tb and 16 atl that would be willing to slide back for more picks, but it all depends on how the feel on the blue chippers left and what needs they are looking to fill in the draft. 

 

Jax is cash strapped and will need more players to fill holes on their roster imo. The GM and HC are on their last legs and the inability to sign UFAs could easily push their attention to the draft to bolster the roster enough to save their jobs. This move would be very expensive, so our board better be right...

 

Cle will be looking hard at OT imo, but if they get exhausted quicker than 10, they could be a spot, especially with a new hc and gm who will want to shape the roster with more of their guys. 

 

TB we have a good trading relationship with and again, team needs could allow them to slide back and nab an extra pick or 2.

 

Atl is a cap hell team and will need as many picks as possible to flesh out their roster.

I can't recall a time where there was ever this much movement in regards to QBs

The savant Albright has him or Reagor pegged to Den. 

 

My personal opinion is that he sure fits past Raider WR profiles and it would shock me to see Mayock take him at 12. 

 

One of these 3 are going to slide a bit unless a big trade happens, which I could see Philly trying to do

If Jax tags their DE then we can definitely do a deal with them.  

5 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Nonsense.  They have about 2000 cases of smelling salts in the equipment room, and the supplier is on speed dial.  ?

If that were true they would be sniffing the goal line more......

14 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


Good.

 

He can bring that wonderful pass blocking that saw the Bills destroy the Titans’ OL to the tune of 5 sacks, 8 pressures, 5 hurries, and 4 QB knockdowns to a team we play 2x per year ?

He gave up zero sack in his last 11 games and got a top 5 grade from PFF. We got sacks up the middle!!!!! OT does stop DTs......  You don't think he wouldn't be our best RT since forever? Name a single decent RT we have had that made a pro bowl...

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33 minutes ago, Locomark said:

If Jax tags their DE then we can definitely do a deal with them.  

If that were true they would be sniffing the goal line more......

He gave up zero sack in his last 11 games and got a top 5 grade from PFF. We got sacks up the middle!!!!! OT does stop DTs......  You don't think he wouldn't be our best RT since forever? Name a single decent RT we have had that made a pro bowl...

 

Remember...............

 

these players are great if they wanna sign with the Bills and they suck if they wanna go elsewhere.

 

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