Rico Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Virgil said: He’s easily my top 3 over-rated Bills players of the past 20 years and he quit on the team. You’re breaking my heart Ruben Brown? Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Rico said: Ruben Brown? Agreed. Hmmm, Kelsay is in there. Not sure if Brown gets number 3 or not. He’s in the conversation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: He is on the wall. I can’t remember but is Ferguson on the wall as well? I think he is but not sure You should probably start a new thread. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: You should probably start a new thread. Nah taking a break lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: You should probably start a new thread. YOU are a trouble maker! Try to make the world a better place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: He is on the wall. I can’t remember but is Ferguson on the wall as well? I think he is but not sure he got up there before Marv and Joe D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, row_33 said: he got up there before Marv and Joe D Cool, always liked Joe Ferguson even though he was inconsistent I liked his competitiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Cool, always liked Joe Ferguson even though he was inconsistent I liked his competitiveness. we’ve done far worse, always liked him got to the playoffs when a very good RB was on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Augie said: YOU are a trouble maker! Try to make the world a better place. I'm misunderstood!!!!!!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: He is on the wall. I can’t remember but is Ferguson on the wall as well? I think he is but not sure Yeah, Fergy is up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, row_33 said: we’ve done far worse, always liked him got to the playoffs when a very good RB was on the roster I liked him when Knox was the coach, he seemed to be the only coach that got the most out of Ferguson. The Ferguson and Cribbs combo was cool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: There is already one murderer on the WoF. No need to double that. Dey bof dunaway wit dar wives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) In Consideration (for me): Butch Byrd Reggie McKenzie Cornelius Bennett Steve Christie Eric Moulds Brian Moorman Fred Jackson Eric Wood Kyle Williams Kyle is a shoo-in at some point, Cornelius should finally get his due, would love to see Freddie up there, Moulds should probably make it at some point also. That would probably be my top four. Edited February 27, 2020 by folz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Rico said: Ruben Brown? Agreed. What is your beef with Ruben? His peers, by virtue of his numerous pro bowls, thought very highly of this opponent of theirs. Yet they don't know anything do they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: Oj wasnt found guilty so it would be ridiculous to remove him. “Oh well, we know he was found not guilty by the court system and his peers but we don’t believe it, so...” That’s not how it works. You can’t just decide you don’t believe something your court system decided and arbitrarily strip someone of all their accomplishments. Pegula can do whatever he wants, he doesn't need any permission from anywhere to take OJ off the Wall of Fame. That's how it works. The fact that OJ is still up there is because Pegula hasn't decided to take him down, not because of any court decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Spiderweb said: What is your beef with Ruben? His peers, by virtue of his numerous pro bowls, thought very highly of this opponent of theirs. Yet they don't know anything do they? Brown was a Pro Bowler 9 times, 4 times All Pro, 3 times Walter Payton Man of the Year, college Hall of Famer, and incredibly generous person deeply involved in community service who spent 9 years as a Buffalo Bill. A worthy and perfect candidate for the Wall imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 16 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: ...Conrad Doebler, solid kicking game. If you take out the comma between Doebler and solid, the phrase still works! He was a dirty player. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Turk71 said: Brown was a Pro Bowler 9 times, 4 times All Pro, 3 times Walter Payton Man of the Year, college Hall of Famer, and incredibly generous person deeply involved in community service who spent 9 years as a Buffalo Bill. A worthy and perfect candidate for the Wall imo. Completely agree. Very few Bills have a resume that can match Brown's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 17 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: But the NFL and the Bills aren’t asking that it be taken down are they? As far as I can tell it’s just a few knuckleheads on a message board that think their personal ideals are more important than law and the “private company” that had decided to keep it up. As evidenced by the fact that it’s, you know, still up. The Bills dont need to ask anyone. It's an unofficial marketing piece hanging in their stadium. They can decide to take it down as simply as deciding to change a light bulb. And they should. 7 hours ago, Spiderweb said: What is your beef with Ruben? His peers, by virtue of his numerous pro bowls, thought very highly of this opponent of theirs. Yet they don't know anything do they? That doesnt mean much. For years my father and I were convinced that Defenders were voting him into the ProBowl just so they could keep him on the field and keep beating him. ProBowl voting for Interior linemen, especially back then before everyone had constant access to tape, was pretty much a "I know that name, and only that name" popularity contest. I do like that he stood up to Greggo and basically told him to eff off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: The Bills dont need to ask anyone. It's an unofficial marketing piece hanging in their stadium. They can decide to take it down as simply as deciding to change a light bulb. And they should. Are you purposefully ignoring what I said because it ruins your narrative? The Bills have never shown any interest in taking it down, only a few holier than thou knuckleheads twice a year decide it’s and important endeavor. Like you said, it’s as easy as taking down a lightbulb, but alas, it’s still there! Obviously, that means they want it there. Making your self righteous OPINION moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Just now, Bobby Hooks said: Are you purposefully ignoring what I said because it ruins your narrative? The Bills have never shown any interest in taking it down, only a few holier than thou knuckleheads twice a year decide it’s and important endeavor. Like you said, it’s as easy as taking down a lightbulb, but alas, it’s still there! Obviously, that means they want it there. Making your self righteous OPINION moot. It is my opinion. I never said anything otherwise. Literally said "should" not "must". Who hurt you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It is my opinion. I never said anything otherwise. Literally said "should" not "must". Who hurt you? “Who hurt you?” Kind of a cop-out, no? I hate that I have to explain this. But what we’re doing is having a discussion with two opposing viewpoints. One might call it a debate. You say they should do something and I say they can do whatever they’d like, I happen to believe the name should stay but I’d never be so myopic to believe they should do something just because I believe it’s the right thing. I try to look at things logically. I know that my opinion is biased based on my personal beliefs and ideals. I understand that maybe they have reasons that I have not thought of personally, or care to take time thinking of, so obviously I’ll defer to their choice. You on the other hand seem to go off of feelings and how things personally feel to you and spout those beliefs like they’re fact, and when people call you out you go the cliched message board humor route for a quick exit. Thats fine if you don’t care about discussing it anymore but be honest about it. Don’t just grab the lowest hanging fruit you can find, and start slingin’ it around. It’s lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Can’t ignore that the man ran for 10,000 yards in this uniform and gave us five years of one of the greatest RB careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, row_33 said: Can’t ignore that the man ran for 10,000 yards in this uniform and gave us five years of one of the greatest RB careers I'm not sure who you're talking about, but I hold the very unpopular opinion that Cookie G., has absolutely NO BUSINESS being on the wall. Thurman and Fred. That's who belongs up there for RB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'm not sure who you're talking about, but I hold the very unpopular opinion that Cookie G., has absolutely NO BUSINESS being on the wall. Thurman and Fred. That's who belongs up there for RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'm not sure who you're talking about, but I hold the very unpopular opinion that Cookie G., has absolutely NO BUSINESS being on the wall. Thurman and Fred. That's who belongs up there for RB. i'd want Gil Perreault to stay up there for the Sabres honouring even if he snapped one day and did something horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bobby Hooks said: “Who hurt you?” Kind of a cop-out, no? I hate that I have to explain this. But what we’re doing is having a discussion with two opposing viewpoints. One might call it a debate. You say they should do something and I say they can do whatever they’d like, I happen to believe the name should stay but I’d never be so myopic to believe they should do something just because I believe it’s the right thing. I try to look at things logically. I know that my opinion is biased based on my personal beliefs and ideals. I understand that maybe they have reasons that I have not thought of personally, or care to take time thinking of, so obviously I’ll defer to their choice. You on the other hand seem to go off of feelings and how things personally feel to you and spout those beliefs like they’re fact, and when people call you out you go the cliched message board humor route for a quick exit. Thats fine if you don’t care about discussing it anymore but be honest about it. Don’t just grab the lowest hanging fruit you can find, and start slingin’ it around. It’s lazy. Oh good, someone new to a message board who thinks theyre the smartest guy in the room because you believe you're "logical" when in fact you arent. You say above "You say they should do something and I say they can do whatever they’d like", yet your very first post in this discussion said: 20 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: That’s not how it works. You can’t just decide you don’t believe something your court system decided and arbitrarily strip someone of all their accomplishments. Directly implying that the Bills can NOT do whatever they like. Key absolute "can't". When they in fact can arbitrarily strip him of his accomplishments as they see fit if they so choose to. YOU said they can't. All I ever said is that they "should", not that they must. Of course they can do whatever they like. Maybe the problem is I know to state my opinions as opinions, and you phrase your opinions as facts. I'm done discussing with you because you cant even follow your own discussion, and are bad at it. Agree to disagree. Bye. Edited February 27, 2020 by DrDawkinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Ok, Ok. Time Out on the playground. Both of you go stand in the corner for 20 minutes. Keep your nose touching the wall. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 i showed that post off the "ignore list" just for once, and it was the worst thing i have read from Dr D... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Spiderweb said: What is your beef with Ruben? His peers, by virtue of his numerous pro bowls, thought very highly of this opponent of theirs. Yet they don't know anything do they? Quit on the team in 2003. Don’t really want to see Moulds up there after the 2005 season either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rico said: Quit on the team in 2003. Don’t really want to see Moulds up there after the 2005 season either. Did Ruben quit on the team? I distinctly recall him being deactivated for the finale after he launched himself across the table to get at Gregg-o because he was so pissed off. He gets he-earned-the-right-to-his-aggro-freakout merit points from me for that, not he-quit-on-the-team demerit points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 27 minutes ago, row_33 said: i showed that post off the "ignore list" just for once, and it was the worst thing i have read from Dr D... Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Did Ruben quit on the team? I distinctly recall him being deactivated for the finale after he launched himself across the table to get at Gregg-o because he was so pissed off. He gets he-earned-the-right-to-his-aggro-freakout merit points from me for that, not he-quit-on-the-team demerit points! I believe it was Gilbride. As I’ve said before, he would’ve only gotten points if he would’ve gone after Bledsoe like TKO did (AVP getting negative points of course by breaking his hand trying to pull TKO away). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 What do you guys think about taking OJ off the Wall? Allegedly he killed some people. Ready for some more serious debate?!??! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: What do you guys think about taking OJ off the Wall? Allegedly he killed some people. Ready for some more serious debate?!??! maybe we could meet in the middle and change the name simpson to norberg. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: What do you guys think about taking OJ off the Wall? Allegedly he killed some people. Ready for some more serious debate?!??! it is good to find out people on here never thought about the concept ever till this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 23 hours ago, MJS said: Eric Moulds anyone? My first choice would be Butch Byrd. The sad thing is that Moulds could’ve been a HOF receiver if he only had a better QB throwing him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: The sad thing is that Moulds could’ve been a HOF receiver if he only had a better QB throwing him the ball. 100s have missed out on that combo, either WR or QB, maybe 1000s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, row_33 said: 100s have missed out on that combo, either WR or QB, maybe 1000s Completely agree, but idk if moulds would even be considered to be put on the WOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Completely agree, but idk if moulds would even be considered to be put on the WOF he and Moorman are the hi-lites of a lot of years I prefer to forget about, now that there is hope in the air 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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