BigBillsFan Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 This is really a bad poll. First because neither owner would want this, and second it’s unfair to Ralph Wilson. For all of his faults he loved the area, the area I grew up and watched my team. I’m sure he was offered money to relocate and make more but he did it for us as well. He died as the owner because he loved football. That’s something worth cheering and cherishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Not relevant to the question asked. Ralph did some good things, but screwed the pooch the majority of the time. It was under his management that the team acquired the bad reputation that the current team is still trying to shed. I agree with you. Ralph had three good years in the mid-sixties and the Kelly years. There were a couple of other decent years sprinkled in but other than that he was a dumpster fire. Current ownership is off to a good start but needs to put together a sustained level of performance to prove that recent improvements are not an aberration. When it comes to the Sabres, Pegula is very Ralph like. It has been pathetic. Edited February 6, 2020 by Florida Bills Fanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Ralph was cheap. Terry spends money. He's just not hiring the right people. But it's not from a lack of trying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 The Pegulas have their issues, but it isn't from lack of trying... Ralph was just unwilling to spend at various times in the teams history....his miserly ways pretty much ended the "talking proud" era of Bills football with a whimper.... all in all I appreciate them both. I do believe, at some point the Pegulas will get things right. They just need to hire the right people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Ralph was cheap. Terry spends money. He's just not hiring the right people. But it's not from a lack of trying. Further to this, and Buffalo716’s remarks above, it sometimes seemed Ralph Wilson would overspend on a player, and then it often seemed the team would go on an austerity program in light of the previous extravagance. It might not be factual, but based upon the media and disgruntled players, it certainly seemed what the area was hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Ralph never cried at a presser. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 People voting must be young folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Not sure how we can compare Ralph a football owner to Terry a Hockey owner. better poll would have been Terry Pegula Sabres Owner or Terry Pegula Bills owner (yep two different styles from same person) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 How many times have the Pegula owned Sabres made the playoffs? Prior to their ownership the Sabres had made the playoffs 29 out of 40 years. Only missed 11 times in 40 years. This year would be 9 straight for the Pegulas...that is almost equal to the prior 40 years combined. How can they be doing a better job than any owner of any team, any sport. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Here’s a poll, what was worse? a. Terry’s tears at his Sabres intro presser. b. Terry’s booger at his Bills intro presser. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Gugny said: I wonder how @Rico will vote. ...same way he would about Whaley, right?......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Ralph was cheap. Terry spends money. He's just not hiring the right people. But it's not from a lack of trying. Ralph was so cheap he gave up....likely a billion plus dollars.... by choosing to keep the Bills in Buff....and grandfathering them staying in his Estate. He could have moved the Bills at any time and nobody could have questioned it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Jerry Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Ralph was so cheap he made OJ Simpson the highest paid player in the 70s Jimbo the highest paid in the 80s. The early 90s Bills were called the million dollar bills because how much money Ralph threw around In the 2000s he made Derrick Dockery the 3rd highest paid guard OF ALL TIME He gave Mario 100 million He have Dareus 100 million You have no clue about cheap and you should feel bad for bashing the SINGLE PERSON who kept us here for 50+ years This is super deceiving - the three men you mentioned were paid through the salary cap. Ralph HAD to spend that money and it was fully guaranteed and subsidized by the NFL TV’s contract. Ralph WAS cheap when it came to coaches, GM’s and other front office hired. His track record speaks for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: This is super deceiving - the three men you mentioned were paid through the salary cap. Ralph HAD to spend that money and it was fully guaranteed and subsidized by the NFL TV’s contract. Ralph WAS cheap when it came to coaches, GM’s and other front office hired. His track record speaks for itself The Bengals had 4-6 regional scouts in there front office for years. Still do That's cheap He's a HoF owner yea his track record speaks for itself 2 AFL titles 4 AFC championships, HoF players and a legacy of the Bills Not every team can win the SB yearly.. we struggled for 17 years because we didn't have a QB Edited February 7, 2020 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Why isn't Terry Pegula (Bills) on this poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Ralph was cheap. Terry spends money. He's just not hiring the right people. But it's not from a lack of trying. Yeah, but if spending money = being a good owner then how do you rate Daniel Snyder? You've got to make the right moves too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Gugny said: I wonder how @Rico will vote. the correct way 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Ralph was cheap, Terry has given the Sabres everything he can financially. They just suck except hiring good people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, MJS said: Ralph took the Bills to two AFL championships and four superbowl appearances, and he's a hall of fame owner. Until Pegula accomplishes something with the Sabres (or the Bills) how can we make claims that he's a better owner? I think Pegula has the Bills on the right track. I have no idea about the Sabres. This. I can’t believe TPegs is winning this poll by a 2:1 ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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