YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I personally would sign Shaq if I could only have one of him or Phillips. Prefer both obviously. I would absolutely pay Quinton Spain 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plenzmd1 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Kinda to early, but looking forward this offseason to see how the Bills approach free agency. I think it will be much like this year , mid to lower tier guys, not big contracts to anyone. the real interesting piece will see how they approach Tre , Dion and the safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 My top 4 are Spain, Phillips, Lawson, and Waddle. No specific order, though I think Spain has been our most consistent lineman this year... not a world beater, but a solid top 20 G. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I don’t care if he pays us, DO NOT bring Gore back. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Phillips is the only one I care about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) The four players I see right away are Spain, Phillips, Lawson, and Johnson. I would not break the bank on any of them. I'd next look at special teamers. Edited January 5, 2020 by VirginiaMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Lawson admitting he played under motivation for a contract a tad worrisome. I admit when we drafted him I was a big fan but he hasn't lived up to said hype. If he's looking for top level salary I let him walk and draft his replacement who hopefully replaces Hughes when his contact ends. I think it be wise to also add a vet to replace LorAx who can also contribute to the pass rush. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Spain, Lawson, Wallace, Phillips. I’m not sure what that costs, but it should be under $40 million for all 4. That should leave enough for the future and for one big ticket skill player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, whatdrought said: My top 4 are Spain, Phillips, Lawson, and Waddle. No specific order, though I think Spain has been our most consistent lineman this year... not a world beater, but a solid top 20 G. Spain allowed zero sacks and played every game. He’s priority #1 for me. The others mean necessary replacements if not re-signed. In this regard, ‘the Devil you know’.. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) I think they re-sign Spain, Coleman, Marlowe, and Kevin Johnson. Maybe Stanford unless they draft better backup LBs. I think they will make a good effort to re-sign Phillips, but he will cost too much. edit: I don’t think they even talk to Shaq. He’s gone. Edited January 5, 2020 by JR in Pittsburgh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Quinton Spain is not getting enough love here, and that is VERY disturbing!!! We NEED him back. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Quinton Spain is not getting enough love here, and that is VERY disturbing!!! We NEED him back. I agree with you as to me Spain and Phillips are our two most important UFAs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Quinton Spain is not getting enough love here, and that is VERY disturbing!!! We NEED him back. I believe this as well because imo the most important thing is OL, then add weapons. Keep this OL together and maybe add a OT in the draft. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I personally would sign Shaq if I could only have one of him or Phillips. Prefer both obviously. I would absolutely pay Quinton Spain I would Lump Kevin Johnson with Shaq. Agree with everything else. Just now, YoloinOhio said: I believe this as well because imo the most important thing is OL, then add weapons. Keep this OL together and maybe add a OT in the draft. Yes, and move Ford to Guard. Let the guy maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, whatdrought said: My top 4 are Spain, Phillips, Lawson, and Waddle. This is a serious question. Tell me about Waddle. All I know is that he was out all season. What do you like about him? Tackle depth or is there more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I believe this as well because imo the most important thing is OL, then add weapons. Keep this OL together and maybe add a OT in the draft. I cannot remember a time where our offensive line was the same from the previous season in full. We must retain that consistency and build on it, not play Mastermind with it. That was my logic in retaining Spain, who did perform well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Spain and Phillips. I simply don’t trust Lawson or the ? he’s going to want/ get. Im interested to see who they pick in FA on the defensive side. I wouldn’t be surprised to see us again address the interior of the line in the quest to shore up the Run D. This also could be a big run stopping LB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Let them all go let's tear this thing down 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Spain should be re-signed... Only wrench thrown in that mix is what to do with Cody Ford. He was eh at RT, projected as a very good guard prospect. Rookie OL usually make a big jump in their second year. Does Ford make that jump at RT? I’d almost feel more comfortable with a combination of two vets in Nsehke/Waddle out there. However, where does Ford play? He’s not as good, yet, as Spain or Feliciano, and Long provides G/C flex as depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’d want Spain back, the issue is that if everyone feels like Ford is a guard...then one of these guard spots needs to be open. If I know anything about McDermott, he’s going to play the guys he drafted. That’s just what’s going to happen. So if Ford is going to play, then I want him to play the position he’s best at. That probably means : no Spain unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ennjay said: This is a serious question. Tell me about Waddle. All I know is that he was out all season. What do you like about him? Tackle depth or is there more? I think Waddle is a decent depth guy and he did start his first few years when our online coach was in Detroit. To me he's a low cost guy who could likely contribute but wouldn't count on him to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: I cannot remember a time where our offensive line was the same from the previous season in full. We must retain that consistency and build on it, not play Mastermind with it. That was my logic in retaining Spain, who did perform well! Get a mauling back to go behind a mauling line and set up a young QB who is still is growing. Would like to see fewer QB sneaks while using the threat of one to set up other plays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ennjay said: This is a serious question. Tell me about Waddle. All I know is that he was out all season. What do you like about him? Tackle depth or is there more? He’s just a swing tackle who can play either side in a pinch. I think he’s valuable depth for us, but my real liking for him is that he seems to have really bought into the culture and bills mafia. His vet presence on the line is valuable, but I don’t think it’s a huge issue if we lose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: Get a mauling back to go behind a mauling line and set up a young QB who is still is growing. Would like to see fewer QB sneaks while using the threat of one to set up other plays. I'm in the opposite opinion when it comes to RB. I think we need to add some speed at the position as to me Motor is a mauler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 There are zero must-sign players on that list. I’d like to have Spain back, but not at premium guard money since you could move Ford to LG, where he played at Oklahoma for 2 full seasons. Shaq and Jordan are going to get PAID. I’m actually more concerned about LB depth than anything else, and I’d like to get KJ back at a $6M-$7M per year gap deal if he’d take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I'm in the opposite opinion when it comes to RB. I think we need to add some speed at the position as to me Motor is a mauler. Assuming Yeldon and Gore are both gone, which I expect, I agree with you. The speed guy needs to have good to great hands. Plus, I still want a mauler. Edited January 5, 2020 by Buffalo Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I'm in the opposite opinion when it comes to RB. I think we need to add some speed at the position as to me Motor is a mauler. I don’t know that they need any archetype specifically, but a one-cut/downhill guy that can run stretch plays and set Allen up for PA would be great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: Assuming Yeldon and Gore are both gone, which I expect, I agree with you. The speed guy needs to have good to great hands. Link to FA RBs... Kenyon drake would be interesting https://nfltraderumors.co/2020-nfl-free-agent-list/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, thebandit27 said: There are zero must-sign players on that list. I’d like to have Spain back, but not at premium guard money since you could move Ford to LG, where he played at Oklahoma for 2 full seasons. Shaq and Jordan are going to get PAID. I’m actually more concerned about LB depth than anything else, and I’d like to get KJ back at a $6M-$7M per year gap deal if he’d take it. Moving Ford to G is the simplest and most obvious move. Barring the Ty Nys injury, I think they could have been leaning that way His feet are just too heavy to hold up consistently at RT IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I'd resign Spain and Kevin Johnson. I think Phillips will get more money than he is worth. I'd resign Lawson if we can get him to sign a reasonable deal. The rest are replaceable, so sign them if you don't think you can get more value in free agency. Do not bring back Gore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Link to FA RBs... Kenyon drake would be interesting https://nfltraderumors.co/2020-nfl-free-agent-list/ This would be a “Knock it out of the park” pickup if they didn’t over pay and they used him correctly/ often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Assuming Yeldon and Gore are both gone, which I expect, I agree with you. The speed guy needs to have good to great hands. Plus, I still want a mauler. Yeldon is under contract so I can't see us tossing him aside unless we get someone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Yeldon is under contract so I can't see us tossing him aside unless we get someone better. Maybe we'll use him next year... Just now, YoloinOhio said: I mean, white will get the 5th year option when that rolls around, right? A couple of those players are at least a year away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 only one I want to have back 100% is Spain No way I'm investing heavy into Shaq Lawson or Jordan Phillips . Only the Bills believed in Phillips so maybe he stays on a reasonable contract I worry we'll overpay to keep "process" guys I want DiMarco, Gore, Foster, Kroft. gone asap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, DuckyBoys said: only one I want to have back 100% is Spain No way I'm investing heavy into Shaq Lawson or Jordan Phillips . Only the Bills believed in Phillips so maybe he stays on a reasonable contract I worry we'll overpay to keep "process" guys I want DiMarco, Gore, Foster, Kroft. gone asap. DiMarco and Kroft aren't due to be signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 1) yes, yes it is. 2) there’s no reason to give Shaq, Spain, or Phillips an open market value deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I don’t know that they need any archetype specifically, but a one-cut/downhill guy that can run stretch plays and set Allen up for PA would be great. Meet Salvon Ahmed a guy I'd like to draft in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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