Rubes Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Mostly by the offensive line, but also the TEs. I was just left speechless by how many times offensive players could have blocked someone but didn't, or whiffed so quickly and thoroughly it should be a crime. Not just the times that JJ Watt just walked into the backfield, but other ways as well. A great example was the Josh sweep in overtime...he had three guys in front of him, each of whom had a clear line to the defender, and all three chose not to block the guy. Just ran right by him. If any one of them decides to block the guy, Josh is sprinting down the sidelines. Why nobody wanted to take the guy out is just baffling. Lots of folks are dogging Allen on this one, but to me it had everything to do with the really crappy blocking in the second half. 9 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Blocking? How about some quarterbacking!? Josh gave us his usual performance today. Some good, some great, some FREAKING HORRIBLE... And in the end it's just not enough to win. Need more points. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 guys whiffed on 41 on the QB power in OT. If one of them blocks him, we’re on the 30. 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 How about going into a full prevent defense on 3rd and 18 in OT and allowing a short underneath throw to convert? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rubes said: Mostly by the offensive line, but also the TEs. I was just left speechless by how many times offensive players could have blocked someone but didn't, or whiffed so quickly and thoroughly it should be a crime. Not just the times that JJ Watt just walked into the backfield, but other ways as well. A great example was the Josh sweep in overtime...he had three guys in front of him, each of whom had a clear line to the defender, and all three chose not to block the guy. Just ran right by him. If any one of them decides to block the guy, Josh is sprinting down the sidelines. Why nobody wanted to take the guy out is just baffling. Lots of folks are dogging Allen on this one, but to me it had everything to do with the really crappy blocking in the second half. That play had me screaming at the tv. WTF!! This game made my head spin with so much anxiety. But the officiating in OT was the capper. Clearly the game clock had expired before the snap on 3rd and 18. How that is not reviewable is beyond me. This should be a simple rule. In the NBA, they review the shot clock and can tell if a player beat the clock. Why didn't we get that review. The play should have been blown dead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Very disappointing loss and end to our season. We were the better team today and still just couldn't get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? Guess I'll just disagree. Allen was under constant pressure from guys who seem to have forgotten how to block. And it wasn't Allen's idea to send DiMarco on a freaking fly pattern. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The offensive line definitely could be upgraded, but seeing that they just did that last off season I expect them to focus in other areas and all these OL will be back again. Hopefully they will be better next year. ALL facets of the offense need to improve. QB, OL, WR, TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, PolishPrince said: How about going into a full prevent defense on 3rd and 18 in OT and allowing a short underneath throw to convert? It's the play that stands out the most, I agree, but like I said the game was lost many ways, that being one of them. I just don't think it was the biggest overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? How about calling a gameplan he can succeed in, you know like the first half? You take the ball out of His hands the entire second half and expect him to win it for you after you basically say we dint trust you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mshaw Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, PolishPrince said: How about going into a full prevent defense on 3rd and 18 in OT and allowing a short underneath throw to convert? that was embarrassing from the coaching staff. literally playing not to lose, it was disgusting to watch. this is the worst Bills loss since I've been a fan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 If were going to advance in playoffs we need to win the division first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Jerboski said: How about calling a gameplan he can succeed in, you know like the first half? You take the ball out of His hands the entire second half and expect him to win it for you after you basically say we dint trust you I expected more Singletary in OT. Big miss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Dimarco deep makes zero sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, PolishPrince said: How about going into a full prevent defense on 3rd and 18 in OT and allowing a short underneath throw to convert? That's not a prevent, that's lining your guys up at the sticks on 3rd/long which every team in the NFL has been doing for years. You start there at the snap so you can play the down moving forward, but a couple guys didn't execute; Edmunds was one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Rubes said: Guess I'll just disagree. Allen was under constant pressure from guys who seem to have forgotten how to block. And it wasn't Allen's idea to send DiMarco on a freaking fly pattern. 3 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? DiMarco had inside position and if he timed his jump better it’s completed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, thronethinker said: If were going to advance in playoffs we need to win the division first. Need a home game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cDAVIS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Blocking? How about some quarterbacking!? Josh gave us his usual performance today. Some good, some great, some FREAKING HORRIBLE... And in the end it's just not enough to win. Need more points. are you on here to just go into every thread and trash buffalo in one way or another. find another team to root for, no room for that ***** here. you are literally going into every thread to just be a negative ***** fan. josh played as expected for a 2nd year project QB. his O line crumbled at the end of the game, that didnt help. the defense let us down at the end, also that cody ford call was ass. we lost to a team who stomped the pats and who beat the cheifs. we had them on the ropes. im PROUD of buffalo and what they did this year, cant wait til the next 12-15 years with this group. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rubes said: Guess I'll just disagree. Allen was under constant pressure from guys who seem to have forgotten how to block. And it wasn't Allen's idea to send DiMarco on a freaking fly pattern. You're absolutely right Rubes. And that wasn't the first time Daboll did that with DiMarco today 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cDAVIS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Mshaw said: that was embarrassing from the coaching staff. literally playing not to lose, it was disgusting to watch. this is the worst Bills loss since I've been a fan. i can think of a few others that were worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, oldmanfan said: DiMarco had inside position and if he timed his jump better it’s completed. I'm, he can't jump better, he's a FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Simon said: You're absolutely right Rubes. And that wasn't the first time Daboll did that with DiMarco today yeah it happened other atleast one other time as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Jerboski said: How about calling a gameplan he can succeed in, you know like the first half? You take the ball out of His hands the entire second half and expect him to win it for you after you basically say we dint trust you I have been saying it all year Either give the kid the keys to the car for 4 quarters or not at all. In OT we go empty set and put it all on Allen Texans were willing to run the ball OP you are 100% correct Morse makes a block on that sweep and were on to round 2 of the playoffs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rubes said: Mostly by the offensive line, but also the TEs. I was just left speechless by how many times offensive players could have blocked someone but didn't, or whiffed so quickly and thoroughly it should be a crime. Not just the times that JJ Watt just walked into the backfield, but other ways as well. A great example was the Josh sweep in overtime...he had three guys in front of him, each of whom had a clear line to the defender, and all three chose not to block the guy. Just ran right by him. If any one of them decides to block the guy, Josh is sprinting down the sidelines. Why nobody wanted to take the guy out is just baffling. Lots of folks are dogging Allen on this one, but to me it had everything to do with the really crappy blocking in the second half. Part of me is convinced the OL let 41 light up Josh on the sweep because he had his head up his ass for the last 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rubes said: Guess I'll just disagree. Allen was under constant pressure from guys who seem to have forgotten how to block. And it wasn't Allen's idea to send DiMarco on a freaking fly pattern. DiMarco was running a clearout. It worked. Brown got wide open coming across the middle. That was where the ball was supposed to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mshaw said: that was embarrassing from the coaching staff. literally playing not to lose, it was disgusting to watch. this is the worst Bills loss since I've been a fan. to me its replaced the Music City Miracle Up 16-0 we choked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The OL has had these breakdowns all season. At certain points in the game they start whiffing on blocks and allowing pressure right off the snap. I'm really not sure what you expect of any QB when he doesn't even get time to complete his drop and setup. He had some bonehead moments all on his own and you could see it in his face at the end how bummed he was, probably going over all the plays they missed on. Farts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: DiMarco had inside position and if he timed his jump better it’s completed. I'm, he can't jump better, he's a FB Yeah those FB's are not the most athletic guys real bad attempt on the jump lol but oldmanfan is correct he would of caught it with a better attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Allen lost it in the end no doubt. He will learn. But the line crapped all over themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: DiMarco was running a clearout. It worked. Brown got wide open coming across the middle. That was where the ball was supposed to go. The problem as I see it is that Daboll relies too much on pass plays (like this one) that takes too long to develop. You can do that when you have a strong offensive line that can give their QB the time for that to develop. It should have been clear to him in the second half that the line was seriously struggling to block anyone, and not to rely on slow developing plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: DiMarco was running a clearout. It worked. Brown got wide open coming across the middle. That was where the ball was supposed to go. They showed a shot from behind the play. I didn’t see anyone open there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Allen was sitting in a recliner most of the game. The OL was outstanding. No line blocks perfect on every play and no defense allows 0 points. This is just scapegoating Allen losing the game. Watson was sacked 7 times and still won. How did they not lose with OL play like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay free Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 In my humble opinion. Bills do billsy things.....good first half play calling.....horrible second half playcalling.....prevent defense. Never....deep route to FB dimarco....horrible.....no singletary runs or screens ???? Brian daboll and Leslie Frazier are just ok.....josh is young and will have to improve....Jordan poyer is old and slow....star should be gone....we need Jaquan Johnson out there at safety.....good call or on duke over foster to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Simon said: That's not a prevent, that's lining your guys up at the sticks on 3rd/long which every team in the NFL has been doing for years. You start there at the snap so you can play the down moving forward, but a couple guys didn't execute; Edmunds was one of them. Yep, the execution on that play was awful Edmund's and milano get a lot of praise on this board but they had some back breaking mistakes today as well. Nobody on d was as bad as poyer today, he was terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: 3 guys whiffed on 41 on the QB power in OT. If one of them blocks him, we’re on the 30. Yeah, that was crazy. He ran right by 3 blockers. Blockers who are looking for people to block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, BullBuchanan said: Allen was sitting in a recliner most of the game. The OL was outstanding. No line blocks perfect on every play and no defense allows 0 points. This is just scapegoating Allen losing the game. Watson was sacked 7 times and still won. How did they not lose with OL play like that? In the first half, sure. Not in the second half. And the Texans didn't lose because they could convert a 3rd and 18, and by escaping a certain sack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: They showed a shot from behind the play. I didn’t see anyone open there. I promise you Brown was. A route up the left side that then breaks across the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Bad play calling, poor tackling and stupid penalties lost this game. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm, he can't jump better, he's a FB This, no chance he catches that ball None... now why we would call a play with him on the field at that specific time is totally game for questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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