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1 hour ago, SWATeam said:

I hate this line of thinking.  Teams outsmart themselves when playing the Pats*, trying to be cute,

 

Just play your game and beat them.  Don't build them up to be something special where you need to pull out all the stops to win.

 

It's not only that.  Trick plays succeed when the other team is caught napping.  They also have a risk for execution failure when preparing on a short week.

The Patriots typically are not a napping team (though Pederson did pull it off nicely)

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why would we show hidden plays in a virtually meaningless game?? 

 

we have already clinched. you don't save up special formations/plays for the playoffs and then use them 2 weeks before. 

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2 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said:

Stop showing them the game plan!!

maybe that's the plan to make them plan for the plan even though there's no plan at all so it just wastes their planning time. Did I use "plan" enough times?

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3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

* Flea flicker

* WR option

* Nick Foles special to Josh Allen

* Fake punt

* Fake FG

* Fake Spike

 

Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. 

Fergy- I was just talking about this at work yesterday 

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3 hours ago, BuffaloMatt said:

Gore's halfback option was a colossal fail. I I'd be happy with less razzle dazzle and more execution. First downs = touch downs. 

Run Run and more Run

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3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

Soooooooo..... You agree? We’ll play loose and throw in some razzle dazzle? 

I have no problem with a trick play or 2 but please no Gore option pass. And minimize the deep ball.

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I've yet to be impressed with any of the game calling by Daboll, very unimaginative, heck we don't even see many bubble screens or screens in general. I'm not sure if Daboll knows what that is.

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6 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

* Flea flicker

* WR option

* Nick Foles special to Josh Allen

* Fake punt

* Fake FG

* Fake Spike

 

Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. 

 

Yip. All on the first drive.

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I had the same thought. If we noticed that special teams have won them at least two games this year (that is, two blocked punts, not just field goals), the Bills certainly have. And it has to be tempting to beat them the same way. I was thinking an onside kick myself. Not that this is a trick play, but we haven't seen the jet sweep in a long time, or a direct snap to the RB at all. The counter trey, reverses, the tricks you mentioned, I'd like to see them try all sorts of stuff, all the while praying that they deal with the punt blocking on the other side. 

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I'll take a jet sweep or two with McKenzie or Foster, I can't recall the last game we saw that?

 

Or, that exotic play the call the screen pass? That would really surprise them.

 

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I've never considered the Nick Foles special before, as athletic as JA is and with all his rushing TDs doesn't he need a receiving one as well?

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8 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

* Flea flicker

* WR option

* Nick Foles special to Josh Allen

* Fake punt

* Fake FG

* Fake Spike

 

Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. 

I doubt it. IF they're saving something, I'd expect to see it in the playoffs.

This is a team we should line up and beat. We shouldn't need trick plays.

 

New England might need them though.

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On offense and defense alone, We are probably better then the patriots right now straight up. We don’t need trick plays. What we need is to stop losing these games to New England because of Special teams, penalties and turn overs. Stop losing battle of the overlooked extra little things. The patriots have zero explosiveness or down field ability. They are the team that needs to try silly gimmicks to make big plays. We are the better team. Just don’t give them the game on turnovers and special teams mistakes and we are going to win.

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I see the next two games as like a playoff pre-season. We definitely need to play-to-win since the Division is still in play (barely) and to get the New England monkey off our back. 

 

That doesn't mean trick plays to me, but I'd work on formations and tendency breakers that target NE weakness against stopping the run.  Throw in some heavy packages, unusual formations (Gore and Singletary on the field at same time) different RPOs etc. Heavy play action to work on Joshs deep shots too.  

 

Our bread and butter seems to be 11 personnel with Josh running the no huddle. If it's close in the 4th, break that out and win the game. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

* Flea flicker

* WR option

* Nick Foles special to Josh Allen

* Fake punt

* Fake FG

* Fake Spike

 

Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. 

You know what would work?  An end around to Vapor (Foster) where he ends up throwing deep to Smoke (Brown) would work to perfection.  NE knows that McDermott kept Foster on ice last week specifically for NE, but, they aren't expecting the ol' okey doke.  They are expecting end arounds and they'll absolutely sell out to stop him.  I guarantee you that Brown will be wide open.

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This team should be loose and looking to have some fun and win.

 

I have no issue if they wanna get a bit more risky in this game. Beating the Pats in Foxborough may require something like that in order to pull it off.

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I don't think Cueboll is good enough to "save" any gadget plays and he better start being consistent to "save" his job.  Play calling in the red zone against Pittsburgh, the time we lost yardage on 3 consecutive plays, shows the level of his brilliance.

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I'm pretty sure one of the times Frank Gore was tackled last Sunday at Pittsburgh was supposed to be a running back pass.

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9 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

* Flea flicker

* WR option

* Nick Foles special to Josh Allen

* Fake punt

* Fake FG

* Fake Spike

 

Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. 

Pitch to singletary in a fake sneak.  It’s coming. 
 

and I agree we will see the kitchen sink today on offense / special teams.  Literally nothing to lose and everything to gain by stealing this game. 

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27 minutes ago, Azucho98 said:

I don't think Cueboll is good enough to "save" any gadget plays and he better start being consistent to "save" his job.  Play calling in the red zone against Pittsburgh, the time we lost yardage on 3 consecutive plays, shows the level of his brilliance.

 

Daboll isn't going anywhere unless he gets a head coaching position. I'm not thrilled with him either but in no way is he on the hot seat with the way Josh has progressed. There is zero chance McBean brings in another coordinator

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5 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

I've yet to be impressed with any of the game calling by Daboll, very unimaginative, heck we don't even see many bubble screens or screens in general. I'm not sure if Daboll knows what that is.

He does but it’s hard to block screens when your guards are buoy like ours and they have an aptitude for stupid holding penalites (at least in Spain’s case). 

9 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

I'm pretty sure one of the times Frank Gore was tackled last Sunday at Pittsburgh was supposed to be a running back pass.

It was.  Watch how Spain blocked for it.  Daboll confirmed as much.  First play was the setup for it. 

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