Maybe we do need a dome? Ticket prices

[bbb]

I'm really surprised that ticket prices on Stubhub are way less for Sunday's game than they were for the October game vs. the Eagles.  Sunday's game is much bigger.................I guess demand just is not there when the calendar turns to December.  

[thebug]

2 minutes ago, bbb said:

I'm really surprised that ticket prices on Stubhub are way less for Sunday's game than they were for the October game vs. the Eagles.  Sunday's game is much bigger.................I guess demand just is not there when the calendar turns to December.  

How cheap were the tickets?

 

[bbb]

5 minutes ago, thebug said:

How cheap were the tickets?

 

 

The lowest priced tickets right now are $39.  I don't know exactly what it was for the Eagles game, but I know it was way higher.  Where I sit in 113, it is a difference of probably 80-100 bucks - until it became apparent the weather was going to suck for the Eagles game.  

[thebug]

2 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

The lowest priced tickets right now are $39.  I don't know exactly what it was for the Eagles game, but I know it was way higher.  Where I sit in 113, it is a difference of probably 80-100 bucks - until it became apparent the weather was going to suck for the Eagles game.  

Wow! 

[TroutDog]

Weather. Plus, most think we will lose. 
 

I don’t! ? 

[aceman_16]

"A friend told me" that the cold benches bring out my eeer his hemorrhoids. Guessing that's HIS reasoning.

[Jamie Nails]

I think the out of town demand wavers this time of year too

[Captain Hindsight]

Its the holidays too. I thought about selling this game for extra money, but ultimately decided to go

[Mr Info]

5 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

"A friend told me" that the cold benches bring out my eeer his hemorrhoids. Guessing that's HIS reasoning.

‘eeer [sic] his hemorrhoids’...is his head up his a$$?

[Special K]

A dome would also be a big help to having a consistently good offense....the Bills two best offensive showings were in Miami in good weather, and in Dallas in a dome......just sayin'.

[bbb]

15 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said:

I think the out of town demand wavers this time of year too

 

That's a good point.  

 

17 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

Weather.  

 

That's why I said maybe we need a dome............In addition to the out of towners Jamie mentions, it seems to me a lot less women go to December games..............I know women who will only go to the warm weather games.  And, it seems like there a lot less in the stands...........But, they will go to Sabres games in the winter.  

 

I really don't want a dome.  I love the weather games.  It seems like the masses don't, though.  

Just now, Special K said:

A dome would also be a big help to having a consistently good offense....the Bills two best offensive showings were in Miami in good weather, and in Dallas in a dome......just sayin'.

 

True, but those December/January games in 90/91 the offense could not have been better. 

[klos63]

Time for the 'best fans in the world' to suck it up a bit and back up their words.

[Doc Brown]

Yup.  With a dome the stadiums would be full in December even in the losing seasons and December ticket prices would be at a premium in the winning seasons.

[Special K]

4 minutes ago, bbb said:

 

 

True, but those December/January games in 90/91 the offense could not have been better. 

 

Remember I said "consistently" good offense....those offenses were great, but it also took having 5 or so Hall of Famers on the field at the same time to accomplish it!!

[Royale with Cheese]

It's just after Thanksgiving so a lot of out of towners probably don't want to take another trip 10 days later.  That's I guess one theory.

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Yup.  With a dome the stadiums would be full in December even in the losing seasons and December ticket prices would be at a premium in the winning seasons.

 

My older family members in Buffalo won't go to a game in December because they don't like sitting in cold weather.

I would also think that dad's who bring their kids to the game, probably shy away from cold weather games, especially if the kid is young.

 

I'll take my kid to a game one day, he's 4 now so I'll wait a few years.  He's never really seen cold weather living in Atlanta and would probably be miserable in near/below freezing temps for 3-4 hours.

[Doc Brown]

6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

It's just after Thanksgiving so a lot of out of towners probably don't want to take another trip 10 days later.  That's I guess one theory.

 

My older family members in Buffalo won't go to a game in December because they don't like sitting in cold weather.

I would also think that dad's who bring their kids to the game, probably shy away from cold weather games, especially if the kid is young.

 

I'll take my kid to a game one day, he's 4 now so I'll wait a few years.  He's never really seen cold weather living in Atlanta and would probably be miserable in near/below freezing temps for 3-4 hours.

It's the cold weather.  Sitting in front of the fireplace with a 60 inch UHD TV for much cheaper is the more appealing option.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

It's the cold weather.  Sitting in front of the fireplace with a 60 inch UHD TV for much cheaper is the more appealing option.

 

There was a 60 inch UHD Samsung TV for $300 at Target on Black Friday.  My 55" works just fine but man it was tempting....

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

There was a 60 inch UHD Samsung TV for $300 at Target on Black Friday.  My 55" works just fine but man it was tempting....

They've gotten ridiculously cheap.  When the plasma tv's first came out they were over 15 grand for a 42 inch in the late 90's.

[bbb]

24 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Time for the 'best fans in the world' to suck it up a bit and back up their words.

 

To be clear, I'm sure the stadium will be full on Sunday..............But, I expected demand to be through the roof.  We've been dying for a game to be this important in December for sooooo long.  

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

They've gotten ridiculously cheap.  When the plasma tv's first came out they were over 15 grand for a 42 inch in the late 90's.

 

I remember my parents first VCR they bought in 1985 was $400.  I ruined it because I thought the flap was a mouth and I poured milk in it because I figured he was thirsty.

I was 3 and I don't remember it but that's what my older brother told me years later.

[Gugny]

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I remember my parents first VCR they bought in 1985 was $400.  I ruined it because I thought the flap was a mouth and I poured milk in it because I figured he was thirsty.

I was 3 and I don't remember it but that's what my older brother told me years later.

 

This is over the top cliché.  You've got more ***** than a barnyard.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

This is over the top cliché.  You've got more ***** than a barnyard.

 

Telling a story about me ruining my parents VCR isn't going to get me laid so there's no reason for me to lie about it.

[RyanC883]

a Dome is a great idea.  It will also amplify the sound of the crowd.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, bbb said:

I'm really surprised that ticket prices on Stubhub are way less for Sunday's game than they were for the October game vs. the Eagles.  Sunday's game is much bigger.................I guess demand just is not there when the calendar turns to December.  

 

In DC tickets were on sale for  $4.00 

 

that's right FOUR 

 

The Bills ownership ahs done all it could to make games affordable for the Western and Central NY fans and our Canadian "neighbours" 

"Blue Collar" workers may not be able to afford more costly tickets 

 

20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I remember my parents first VCR they bought in 1985 was $400.  I ruined it because I thought the flap was a mouth and I poured milk in it because I figured he was thirsty.

I was 3 and I don't remember it but that's what my older brother told me years later.

 

11 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

This is over the top cliché.  You've got more ***** than a barnyard.

 

The Aladdin movie VCR I bought for $8.00 may be worth  Thousands of $ 

[Captain Hindsight]

24 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I remember my parents first VCR they bought in 1985 was $400.  I ruined it because I thought the flap was a mouth and I poured milk in it because I figured he was thirsty.

I was 3 and I don't remember it but that's what my older brother told me years later.

I thought this was going in a completely different direction when I got here....

[Billsfan1972]

I love the Bills but way too long a day coming from Canada, the border, a 2.5 hour drive each way, uncertain weather that at best will be cold (assuming no wind, rain or snow), 20 minute walk to the stadium (followed by 15-20 minutes to get into it), uncomfortable seats (or benches), traffic leaving if the game is down to the wire & what may or may not be a great game......  Minimum a 12 hour day. 

 

Friend called me a wuss for saying no and his football loving kids too said no...... 

 

Thank you all those who ensured a sellout and that the game is on TV......?

Edited December 4, 2019 by Billsfan1972

[billsfan_34]

1 hour ago, bbb said:

I'm really surprised that ticket prices on Stubhub are way less for Sunday's game than they were for the October game vs. the Eagles.  Sunday's game is much bigger.................I guess demand just is not there when the calendar turns to December.  

Buffalo’s economy has a play in the lower demand also. As the holidays approach some people have to make a choice- put a few presents under the tree and buy a nice prime rib for the holidays or purchase tickets. Also, some season ticket holders may have had their fill of games and look to re coup a little money, even at a loss to offset full price pre season ticket prices. Having a dome may make things worse- now were talking possible PSL’s and higher ticket prices.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

I find this kind of like the excuse ....  It's TOO COLD in February to go Skiing !!!!!!! 

 

[billsfan_34]

1 hour ago, Jamie Nails said:

I think the out of town demand wavers this time of year too

Yep- people don’t wanna drive in dark n possible bad weather either. 

2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

I find this kind of like the excuse ....  It's TOO COLD in February to go Skiing !!!!!!! 

 

Ever ski’d when its -20 windchill? It straight up sucks. I learned quick to pick the nicer days ?

[Royale with Cheese]

16 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I thought this was going in a completely different direction when I got here....

 

I was three at the time....now if I was 13....

[billsfan_34]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Yup.  With a dome the stadiums would be full in December even in the losing seasons and December ticket prices would be at a premium in the winning seasons.

Ive seen empty domes elsewhere. 

22 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I love the Bills but way too long a day coming from Canada, the border, a 2.5 hour drive each way, uncertain weather that at best will be cold (assuming no wind, rain or snow), 20 minute walk to the stadium (followed by 15-20 minutes to get into it), uncomfortable seats (or benches), traffic leaving if the game is down to the wire & what may or may not be a great game......  Minimum a 12 hour day. 

 

Friend called me a wuss for saying no and his football loving kids too said no...... 

 

Thank you all those who ensured a sellout and that the game is on TV......?

I couldn’t imagine doing that either. There was a guy that had seasons from Canada that sat next to me- every home game he came in on Saturday and went back Sunday night. He would host a huge tailgate also- during the game he was so tired that he would be falling asleep. I believe he was from Toronto metro.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, bbb said:

 

The lowest priced tickets right now are $39.  I don't know exactly what it was for the Eagles game, but I know it was way higher.  Where I sit in 113, it is a difference of probably 80-100 bucks - until it became apparent the weather was going to suck for the Eagles game.  

 

Also there's a bunch of unsold box office tickets for this game and the Jets. Didn't someone tell me here that fans would pack the stadium in December if the games meant something?

1 hour ago, Special K said:

A dome would also be a big help to having a consistently good offense....the Bills two best offensive showings were in Miami in good weather, and in Dallas in a dome......just sayin'.

 

Not to mention a boost for signing free agents.

1 hour ago, bbb said:

 

True, but those December/January games in 90/91 the offense could not have been better. 

 

But even then some of those games didn't sell out.

Edited December 4, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[PromoTheRobot]

31 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I love the Bills but way too long a day coming from Canada, the border, a 2.5 hour drive each way, uncertain weather that at best will be cold (assuming no wind, rain or snow), 20 minute walk to the stadium (followed by 15-20 minutes to get into it), uncomfortable seats (or benches), traffic leaving if the game is down to the wire & what may or may not be a great game......  Minimum a 12 hour day. 

 

Friend called me a wuss for saying no and his football loving kids too said no...... 

 

Thank you all those who ensured a sellout and that the game is on TV......?

 

If I lived 2.5 hours away I'd be at every game. (Of course the border crossing is a beeyotch, I bet.) I'm 8 hours away and only get to 3 games. I'll be at the Jets.

Edited December 4, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[billsfanmiami(oh)]

17 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Yep- people don’t wanna drive in dark n possible bad weather either. 

Ever ski’d when its -20 windchill? It straight up sucks. I learned quick to pick the nicer days ?

It’s not ideal but the gear is so good nowadays it’s tolerable at least! About 4-5 years ago, wife and I were at Holiday valley with another couple and temps I think were low teens or maybe even single digits with 20-30 mph wind so wind chill was like -30 or more I want to say.
 

The women would come out for little 30-45 minute bursts but my buddy and I were out there damn near all day. Took breaks for a couple beers maybe every 2 hours or so. I couldn’t believe how not miserable it was and there was hardly anyone out so it was great! I’ve been way more miserable sitting at Bills games with temps in the 30s-40s! 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

A dome would also be a big help to having a consistently good offense....the Bills two best offensive showings were in Miami in good weather, and in Dallas in a dome......just sayin'.

 

 

Nah.

 

KC, NE, Green Bay have plenty of offense without a dome.  Full stadiums too...

[Chandler#81]

I’m an old traditionalist, but I’ve been calling for a dome since I saw Herb Mulkey return the Opening KO in August ‘73.

 

It’ll get enough use with the Bills, Bulls & HS playoff games plus a Bowl Game. Maybe even a SuperSports Palace with a rink for Sabres.

 

Hey! I can dream!

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said:

I’m an old traditionalist, but I’ve been calling for a dome since I saw Herb Mulkey return the Opening KO in August ‘73.

 

It’ll get enough use with the Bills, Bulls & HS playoff games plus a Bowl Game. Maybe even a SuperSports Palace with a rink for Sabres.

 

Hey! I can dream!

 

As long as UB plays in the MAC they will be saddled with those stupid Tuesday/Wednesday MACtion games where 40-50 people actually show up to watch. Play in a done and I can see 10K easy.

[Nick the Greek]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

A dome would also be a big help to having a consistently good offense....the Bills two best offensive showings were in Miami in good weather, and in Dallas in a dome......just sayin'.

The bad weather also hurts the visiting teams offense. Maybe plays into our strategy to let the D grind it out.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Unbelievable that there are still tickets available from the Bills. It's not just that people are reselling them... The game isn't actually sold out. At home. 9-3 vs. 10-2. I'm not sure how this and "The Bills have the best fans in the league" can both be true. I'll probably get flamed for that, but really, what other conclusion can you draw? I think this game would be sold out in similarly cold Pittsburgh or Green Bay.

Edited December 4, 2019 by Giuseppe Tognarelli

[billsfan_34]

8 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said:

It’s not ideal but the gear is so good nowadays it’s tolerable at least! About 4-5 years ago, wife and I were at Holiday valley with another couple and temps I think were low teens or maybe even single digits with 20-30 mph wind so wind chill was like -30 or more I want to say.
 

The women would come out for little 30-45 minute bursts but my buddy and I were out there damn near all day. Took breaks for a couple beers maybe every 2 hours or so. I couldn’t believe how not miserable it was and there was hardly anyone out so it was great! I’ve been way more miserable sitting at Bills games with temps in the 30s-40s! 

Ha you are a better person than me. It is great when the slopes are wide open. 30-40 with wind and rain at a Bills game can suck- its why I opted for clubs now ?

1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Unbelievable that there are still tickets available from the Bills. It's not just that people are reselling them... The game isn't actually sold out. At home. 9-3 vs. 10-2. I'm not sure how this and "The Bills are the best fans in the league" can both be true. I'll probably get flamed for that, but really, what other conclusion can you draw? I think this game would be sold out in similarly cold Pittsburgh or Green Bay.

Simple economics- even at cheaper ticket prices- around the holidays people have to tighten up. I will be there and am fortunate to be able to afford it, not everyone can.