Bills @ Kap workout???

[Buffalo_Gal]

14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Right because their fan base doesn’t care about the best product possible on the field and have some deep hatred for this guy. 
 

 

You missed the Bills denial that they were in attendance.

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Right because their fan base doesn’t care about the best product possible on the field and have some deep hatred for this guy. 
 

 

 

He doesn't make the "product" better.

 

He's been out of football for THREE YEARS, and was cut for poor performance in his final season. But yeah, other than those small facts, sure.

 

 

[Dopey]

17 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

So you want this team taking a shot on THAT GUY?

 

Pardon me if I don't take that take with any kind of seriousness.

It was a workout. I like that we sent someone out there to take a look. If he can help, sure. Kaep went to a superbowl. Politics don't bother me. I'm ex military and a former 1st responder and I'm not offended by Kaep, not one bit. The fact that you don't take my take seriously reinforces my statement that someone like you shouldn't be in a front office. 

 

Edited November 17, 2019 by Dopey

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

You missed the Bills denial that they were in attendance.

 

 

Thank the good Lord they're not even thinking about that jackelope.

 

[Dopey]

Well, Yolo cleared that up. Thanks Yolo!

[4merper4mer]

He's a commie.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

I see this thread is still churning along...

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

 

.....Ronald McDonald hit the limelight too early with his successes........then "tats 'n poses" became his focal point versus what the hell he was getting paid for.....opposing DC's eventually figured him out.....he and HE ALONE opted out of his Niners contract at $12+ mil.....he is the NFL's "Kardashian".....just go the eff away...good Lord.....and FWIW, I could care less about his political or social stances......he is not a good football player.....besides he looks like he's been at the gym with Benjamin....SMH........

[benderbender]

59 minutes ago, Margarita said:

what is that saying, all publicity is good publicity. As witnessed by a 15 page thread his antics ARE gaining he the attention he so covets and will only encourage he further to pull stunts like this. Of course he doesnt want to play any more he wants to embarrass the NFL AND himself at the same time..thats the way I see it. Shut the attention ***** down by ignoring his antics give him a big platform of ZERO attention he wants to continue to be relevant its OUR fault if we give him the attention he covets.

 

When will everyone learn that modern viral marketing isn’t simply trying to appeal to people but rather trying to invoke a response. I.e. how attack ads have replaced pro politician ads.
 

We’ve discovered that you're more likely to spend time taking a survey if you were pissed off than you would if you were satisfied. 

Edited November 17, 2019 by benderbender

[buffalobillsfootball]

So hard to believe politics is NOt impacting people’s feelings about this guy.

 

If Kap delivered Buffalo its first SB win - you would be all over this guys ~~}

[Beast]

2 hours ago, Dopey said:

Even Adam Schefter said he could help some teams out.

LOL...well, if Schefter said it.

 

Did Schefter also say he is better than starters around the league like I was specifically replying to?

 

 

Edited November 17, 2019 by Binghamton Beast

[Buffalophil1948]

3 hours ago, jkirchofer said:

 Myself and many many others have fought for that choice. He does not need to shut up and perform for you. You need to respect his stand.

Yes many have fought for the freedoms that we all enjoy and I say thank you. I fought for those same rights.  So I believe that it gives me the right to completely ignore this jackass when ever I please.  

[MAJBobby]

3 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

He doesn't make the "product" better.

 

He's been out of football for THREE YEARS, and was cut for poor performance in his final season. But yeah, other than those small facts, sure.

 

 

what has Barkley ever done?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, jkirchofer said:

Its comments like this that are part of the problem. You just want him to shut his mouth and perform for you, right? He should give up his First Amendment rights because you don't agree with his message, right? He has used his platform and influence to bring awareness to issues that are important to him at great personal and financial costs. I applaud that. I support him. And you know what....there is nothing legally saying anyone needs to stand for the National Anthem. We have a choice. Myself and many many others have fought for that choice. He does not need to shut up and perform for you. You need to respect his stand.

 

YES, it's what people do when they want to keep their jobs. I almost got fired even though i was a good worker but couldn't keep my mouth shut but i learned to shut up and do what i was told. Its called being a good employee.

 

He made his choice and expressed his first amendment rights and know he will suffer the consequences as the NFL expresses their right not to hire a malcontent who clearly just wants to continue his narrative of "oppression" .

 

and now i will express my first amendment right and say , I will not respect his stand nor your idiocy, you have the right to say what you want but that doesnt mean there wont be consequences.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

5 hours ago, Buffalophil1948 said:

Yes many have fought for the freedoms that we all enjoy and I say thank you. I fought for those same rights.  So I believe that it gives me the right to completely ignore this jackass when ever I please.  

 

i fought as well and completely agree 

 

 

[BuffaloBills1998]

Look all I can say at to this is that there is ZERO chance Buffalo signs this guy since the last time he was here he wasn’t too popular with the fans and he got booed heavily. Even Kaepernick said that The Buffalo fans were mean to him. Highly doubt he would come here anyways not like we need him

Edited November 17, 2019 by BuffaloBills1998

[Dante]

On 11/16/2019 at 11:29 AM, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s weird how want equal rights for people is a bad thing.  I guess it’s much better to be an ignorant, judgmentAl, afraid of change boomer is much better.  

Yeah, what is that person talking about? The nfl is the most outdated league in sports. Jerry Jones definitely would have owned slaves back in the day.  These players are pieces of meat who they won’t even guarantee their contracts.  

Not weird to want equal rights. Who said that? Or are you talking about Colin?

[wppete]

 

 

[wppete]

 

Everyone is turning on Kaepernick. All his supporters that actually know football have all called him out for his behaviour on Saturday. He is done. 

[wppete]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/11/17/jay-z-calls-colin-kaepernick-workout-publicity-stunt

 

 

Sources: Jay-Z 'Disappointed' Colin Kaepernick Turned NFL Workout into 'Publicity Stunt'

SHEMAR WOODS

NOV 17, 2019

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Colin Kaepernick's unanticipated decision to change Saturday's planned NFL workout let down one of his biggest supporters: Jay-Z.

According to a source, the rapper-turned-businessman is "disappointed with Colin's actions and believes he turned a legitimate workout into a publicity stunt."

Kaepernick requested to shoot a Nike ad as a part of Saturday's workout, featuring the quarterback and mentioning all the NFL teams present at the workout. The NFL agreed, but Kaepernick informed the league of his decision to change the location of the workout on Saturday at 2:30 p.m., moving the event from the Falcons' practice facility to Charles R. Drew High School in Riverdale, Ga.

The location change dampened attendance, but a few NFL scouts reportedly followed Kaepernick to the new workout location. Hue Jackson, who was selected to lead the original NFL workout, backed out and returned to the airport.

The NFL workout, originally scheduled for 3 p.m., was designed to showcase Kapernick and provide the exiled quarterback an opportunity to display his football readiness and desire to return to the NFL. Kaepernick threw to a host of receivers and proved that he still has the talent to play.

"From the outset, Mr. Kaepernick requested a legitimate process and from the outset the NFL league office has not provided one," his agent, Jeff Nalley, and attorney, Ben Meiselas, said in a statement. "Most recently, the NFL has demanded that as a precondition to the workout, Mr. Kaepernick sign an unusual liability waiver that addresses employment-related issues and rejected the standard liability waiver from physical injury proposed by Mr. Kaepernick's representatives."

Jay-Z has been vocal in support of Kaepernick, who has gone unsigned since the end of the 2016 NFL season. That support was called into question before the start of the NFL season, when the NFL and Jay-Z formed a partnership that allows him to help manage entertainment ventures, including the Super Bowl halftime show, and help manage the league’s community activism efforts. 

In a news conference to announce the deal, Jay-Z said, “I think we’ve moved past kneeling. I think it’s time to go on to actionable items,“ sparking widespread backlash. But reports surfaced this week that Jay-Z had been working behind the scenes to help influence the NFL to set up Saturday's workout.

Kaepernick has not played in the NFL since Jan. 1, 2017. He opted out of his contract with the 49ers in March 2017 and has not tried out for an NFL team since becoming a free agent.

"I've been in shape and ready for this for 3 years, can't wait to see the head coaches and GMs on Saturday," Kaepernick tweeted about the workout on Tuesday.

 

[row_33]

is this all over yet

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

On 11/15/2019 at 9:28 PM, zonabb said:

If you put racism in " " you are intentionally minimizing it, unwilling to accept it as an actual structural problem in this "country." Yeah I put country in " " because I think that pride and bling loyalty to a geography is a joke made worse by the romanticism attached to it that doesn't show it for what it is, a county found by genocidal racists. But anyway, calling racism oveblown only doubles down on that and surely comes from the comfort of your white privilege. And you end it by saying there are a few racist nut jobs out there to imply, that due to what you think are a small number, that racism is overblown. And there are also waaay more than a few bad cops. Every PD in this region has bad apples. Let's see.... just this two weeks we've got a Lewiston cop taking pictures of a woman getting dressed and resigning (today) and a sheriff pimping his wife out in a movie theatre parking low. You also have a Tonawanda cop driving drunk and getting in an accident coming home from a police party last year, a cop beating the hell out of a Bills fan in the parking lot multiple cops shooting unarmed people in Buffalo, a few in the back in the last year.. and that's off the top of my head in 30 seconds and I rarely read the paper or listen to the radio. 

 

This board is over run with some of the most unenlightened rubes around. 

 

 

 

 

Really?  Care to elaborate?

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

is this all over yet

 

 

No, not even close.  this keeps Kapernick "relevant" for another few years, certainly makes some Nike adds execs thrilled that is for sure.

 

Wonder when the commercial will be coming.

[H2o]

2 hours ago, wppete said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/11/17/jay-z-calls-colin-kaepernick-workout-publicity-stunt

 

 

Sources: Jay-Z 'Disappointed' Colin Kaepernick Turned NFL Workout into 'Publicity Stunt'

SHEMAR WOODS

NOV 17, 2019

•  
•  
•  
•  

Colin Kaepernick's unanticipated decision to change Saturday's planned NFL workout let down one of his biggest supporters: Jay-Z.

According to a source, the rapper-turned-businessman is "disappointed with Colin's actions and believes he turned a legitimate workout into a publicity stunt."

Kaepernick requested to shoot a Nike ad as a part of Saturday's workout, featuring the quarterback and mentioning all the NFL teams present at the workout. The NFL agreed, but Kaepernick informed the league of his decision to change the location of the workout on Saturday at 2:30 p.m., moving the event from the Falcons' practice facility to Charles R. Drew High School in Riverdale, Ga.

The location change dampened attendance, but a few NFL scouts reportedly followed Kaepernick to the new workout location. Hue Jackson, who was selected to lead the original NFL workout, backed out and returned to the airport.

The NFL workout, originally scheduled for 3 p.m., was designed to showcase Kapernick and provide the exiled quarterback an opportunity to display his football readiness and desire to return to the NFL. Kaepernick threw to a host of receivers and proved that he still has the talent to play.

"From the outset, Mr. Kaepernick requested a legitimate process and from the outset the NFL league office has not provided one," his agent, Jeff Nalley, and attorney, Ben Meiselas, said in a statement. "Most recently, the NFL has demanded that as a precondition to the workout, Mr. Kaepernick sign an unusual liability waiver that addresses employment-related issues and rejected the standard liability waiver from physical injury proposed by Mr. Kaepernick's representatives."

Jay-Z has been vocal in support of Kaepernick, who has gone unsigned since the end of the 2016 NFL season. That support was called into question before the start of the NFL season, when the NFL and Jay-Z formed a partnership that allows him to help manage entertainment ventures, including the Super Bowl halftime show, and help manage the league’s community activism efforts. 

In a news conference to announce the deal, Jay-Z said, “I think we’ve moved past kneeling. I think it’s time to go on to actionable items,“ sparking widespread backlash. But reports surfaced this week that Jay-Z had been working behind the scenes to help influence the NFL to set up Saturday's workout.

Kaepernick has not played in the NFL since Jan. 1, 2017. He opted out of his contract with the 49ers in March 2017 and has not tried out for an NFL team since becoming a free agent.

"I've been in shape and ready for this for 3 years, can't wait to see the head coaches and GMs on Saturday," Kaepernick tweeted about the workout on Tuesday.

 

 

This falls directly in line with what I felt the other day after hearing and watching the situation unfold. Posted this on Sunday morning. 

 

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The venue situation. So an hour and a half before the workout CK says he's not doing it at the Atlanta facility, that he is switching it to a high school an hour or so away? PFT, Florio and his cronies, would have you believe it was due to the NFL trying to set Kaep up with a waiver. The truth is it was a standard waiver that anyone coming from college would have to sign to participate in the same type of workout. Then this morning Schefter reports it was due to Kaep not being able to have his own film crew in there. Whatever excuse he wants to use, he purposely cost himself today. I have no doubt it was intentional and it obviously alienated Hue Jackson along with 17 of the teams' representatives who were going to be at the Atlanta location. For someone saying he would do whatever to get back in the NFL, he sure doesn't act like it. He acts like a man who thinks he can assert dominance over someone he claims to be seeking employment from. That's not going to work out well for him, nor would it work out well for you and I if we tried the same in our own situations. 

 

Now I will get to what I took from his speech at the end. He didn't take any questions, but only made a statement. First off, I look at everything. I am totally observant and aware of everything when looking at things like this. Before I pressed play, before I even listened to a word he had to say, I looked at the still frame. He and his group looked more like militants at a rally than someone trying to interview for a job. After that I pressed play. He claimed something about transparency. What is that? There were still going to be media to report, there were going to be 3 times the amount of NFL reps there, there would have been a former NFL coach running the workout, and the workout was going to be filmed. What transparency is he talking about? To me he sounds like someone who wants to control everything and the light with which is portrayed at all costs. Then he talks about the people at the workout being "attacked" for the last 3 years and that they continue to be "attacked" even now. To me he is trying to assert himself as some kind of messiah, a leader that people are suffering wrongly for and he plays off of this. I relate it to someone trying to take a form almost that of Christ, talking about the suffering that his followers have and are facing. He, again presenting himself as the head of something, thanks them for their service, and for presenting the "truth" to others. What "truth" would that be? This would be the "truth" that he and his representation want to portray as the "truth" to all of those in attendance or would watch elsewhere. He then continues to play the victim card saying he showed everyone today why he should be in the NFL, but the people there "know why" he's not. Again, he has already treated these people as servants and thanks them for their service to his "truth", now he is projecting himself as a martyr. Then, with 8 teams' representatives present out of the possible 25 teams' representatives he could of been in front of, he begins to attack the same teams he claims to be looking for employment from. He tells them they all need to stop running from the "truth", his "truth" that he is a victim of an unjust treatment. He also tells them to stop "running from the people". Again, it is basic psychology with this statement. He has already asserted himself as some type of leader in the midst of being martyred, thanked people for bearing the suffering that has come with following him, and now he is building them back up by including them as those whom the NFL and the owners are running from, trying to puff them up, give them a sense of power, and justification. He then continues with the thanking and mentioning of the people there and not there, promising to keep them informed and included in everything that happens from that point forward. Again, building them up by giving them a sense of inclusion in everything going on. Then he throws out there the big "IF" quite intentionally, placing a distinct emphasis on that word. Again, he is posturing himself as a victim and trying to drive his "truth" home that he is being martyred. He finishes it off by saying "the ball is in their court" at the end and saying "we're ready to go". Again, the using of "we" is purposely done to give those who have been with him a sense of inclusion in all of this and puff them up once again with his final statement. After watching it multiple times I genuinely believe this whole thing is more about posturing and appearances than it is actually football. He seems like he is intentionally trying to continue to drive the wedge between he and the NFL.

 

 

[Rico]

Hopefully Jay-Z learns from this mistake.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

Seems fairly obvious to me that, when taking all factors into account, the 32 teams that chose the road more traveled made the right call all along. 

 

 

On 11/17/2019 at 11:03 AM, MAJBobby said:

Right because their fan base doesn’t care about the best product possible on the field and have some deep hatred for this guy. 
 

 

Dear Major Bobby, 

 

Some fans likely hate him.  Some fans likely don't like him.  Some fans likely like him, and some fans likely like LIKE him.  

 

Signed,

 

Human Nature

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

On 11/17/2019 at 12:00 PM, Binghamton Beast said:

LOL...well, if Schefter said it.

 

Did Schefter also say he is better than starters around the league like I was specifically replying to?

 

 

 

....sorry.....I'll wait for LaCanfora...he NEVER misses......hell I'm thinking that with being Goodell's version of "All My Children", that Susan Lucci may weigh in....SMH.....

[row_33]

i wish i was cynical enough to have predicted he'd turn this into a total fiasco