FortKnox94 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 @Offside#76FredSmerlas You may be the dumbest person to have ever opened their cobweb infested mouth. For one, it is almost indisputable the number of negative effects alcohol has in relation to marijuana. You are stuck in refer madness mentality my ill informed friend. Let me ask you a question or two..if you ever went to any real parties where real drinking went on, you would know drugs come out in abundance there. That said, most can agree that it is not uncommon to see/ hear of someone doing harder drugs like cocaine, painkillers, benzos, etc. More times than not the decision is influenced by raw alcohol intake. If you’ve ever smoked bud, you’d know that you’d just want to munch and maybe take a nap after getting all your s*** done. Also, open your mind to the fact that the pharmaceutical companies and constantly-lobbied politicians on multiple levels have their own agenda/ reputation at stake. Do you think it would do many medical industries favors to consume a substance nationwide with no need for prescription, essentially lowering the need to lean on medical insurance for supplementation? Meaning less copayments for those with health insurance towards pills, etc. All food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 12 hours ago, MJS said: Staring at screens all day is certainly bad for you. Bro, if you've never rolled up a "hog-leg", fired it up and a taken such a hit that you feel like your chest is on fire and your eyes want to pop, and then sat down with a good ol' bowl of sugar coated frosted flakes, then you just don't know what you're missing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 16 hours ago, MJS said: Here comes all the weed lovers and defenders. ...and all the folks with sticks up their asses. who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Chill said: People use substances as excuses for why they do not meet their full potential. Xanax, cannabis, alcohol, whatever the crutch is is no excuse. Percy has a mental problem, and he is attempting to self medicate. It’s the user, not the substance. Everything is bad if abused, yes, everything. Moderation is the key to a successful life. Once again, shallow insults are not necessary. Immensely critical thing to say people who take prescription drugs are using it as a crutch. Not a subscriber to psychopharmacology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, whatdrought said: I hear great things about snorting antifreeze.... Same logic? You have?! From where? Oh, wait, this is made up to prove a point that can't be proven with a real example isn't it? Edited October 3, 2019 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Chill said: People use substances as excuses for why they do not meet their full potential. Xanax, cannabis, alcohol, whatever the crutch is is no excuse. Percy has a mental problem, and he is attempting to self medicate. It’s the user, not the substance. Everything is bad if abused, yes, everything. Moderation is the key to a successful life. Once again, shallow insults are not necessary. 38 minutes ago, MR8 said: Immensely critical thing to say people who take prescription drugs are using it as a crutch. Not a subscriber to psychopharmacology? Every single conservative I’ve ever met (my entire family is chock full of them) has one thing in common: A complete and total inability (or absolute refusal) to empathize with those who are different from them. They live in their bubbles (99% of the time privileged bubbles) and no other perspectives in this complicated world matter. Their views are superior and everyone must live by them. Those who don’t are simply inferior and/or are living their lives wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, vincec said: You have?! From where? Oh, wait, this is made up to prove a point that can't be proven with a real example isn't it? Your emotional response to the use of irony is really telling about your personal need to defend marijuana. The problem is that i wasn’t attacking marijuana. In fact, if you go throughout this entire thread, you will not find me attacking pot or even positing an opinion of that plant. Rather, what I was doing with my post that went over your head was showing that the argument “don’t knock it unless you’ve tried it” is stupid and has no validity in a genuine discussion about anything, including marijuana. That being said, you prefer a real, demonstrable example of things that we, as a society, can knock without having tried... here’s a couple: 1- Cocain 2- Heroin 3- Suicide 4- Murder 5- Rape 6- Eating contaminated meat 7- telling your wife that those pants do make her butt look fat 8- licking an electrical outlet 9- investigating the clogged mower deck while the blades are on 10- sex with animals 11- etc. As you’ll see from this list, and from the context of my original post, and the use of irony that again, went over your head, there are many many things we as a society and as individuals can condemn without ever having tried them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: Every single conservative I’ve ever met (my entire family is chock full of them) has one thing in common: A complete and total inability (or absolute refusal) to empathize with those who are different from them. They live in their bubbles (99% of the time privileged bubbles) and no other perspectives in this complicated world matter. Their views are superior and everyone must live by them. Those who don’t are simply inferior and/or are living their lives wrongly. Well as a conservative I find this highly offensive ... Funny how you are criticizing "conservatives" for having a "refusal to empathize with those who are different" and yet you yourself go on to take shots at "conservatives" with blanket statements like they're over privileged or that they're superior... While sounding arrogant and "superior" yourself. This isn't a "Liberal vs Conservative" debate man, but FTR, liberals have no problem judging, demeaning, and belittling conservatives either... But back to the topic at hand.... Depression, anxiety, stress, mental illness, all sorts of issues are helped by medical usage of numerous drugs. Those drugs are NOT a "Crutch" they are aids to help people be able to function. The hard part about pot being argued as medicinal when these guys are doing it on their own is that there is no discussion with a Doctor to figure out dosage and regiment. There is such a thing as too much, and there is dependency that can come from over medicating, so it's a slippery slope. But the statement that people who need drugs to be even keel is flat out wrong and ignorant. I sincerely hope people who think that don't need to face situations where they themselves or their loved ones need medication, because watching people deal with anxiety, depression, and mental illness is very difficult. And if your stance on it is "they're just weak"... well then It's safe to say your loved one won't have the support system they need to get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 13 hours ago, Dopey said: The 3 b's that make everything better: Bacon, butter and beer. The 3 b's that make everything better: Bacon, butter and bongs. ya big dope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 this thread is getting ***** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, MR8 said: Well as a conservative I find this highly offensive ... Funny how you are criticizing "conservatives" for having a "refusal to empathize with those who are different" and yet you yourself go on to take shots at "conservatives" with blanket statements like they're over privileged or that they're superior... While sounding arrogant and "superior" yourself. This isn't a "Liberal vs Conservative" debate man, but FTR, liberals have no problem judging, demeaning, and belittling conservatives either... But back to the topic at hand.... Depression, anxiety, stress, mental illness, all sorts of issues are helped by medical usage of numerous drugs. Those drugs are NOT a "Crutch" they are aids to help people be able to function. The hard part about pot being argued as medicinal when these guys are doing it on their own is that there is no discussion with a Doctor to figure out dosage and regiment. There is such a thing as too much, and there is dependency that can come from over medicating, so it's a slippery slope. But the statement that people who need drugs to be even keel is flat out wrong and ignorant. I sincerely hope people who think that don't need to face situations where they themselves or their loved ones need medication, because watching people deal with anxiety, depression, and mental illness is very difficult. And if your stance on it is "they're just weak"... well then It's safe to say your loved one won't have the support system they need to get better. You’re offended? Good grief. I mean, the very definition of conservative is one who is averse to change and innovation. So you’re basically offended by someone who describes conservatives as exactly what they are by the definition of the word. Conserve the status quo. Why conserve it? What is your fear of progress? How else would you explain a conservative other than not having empathy for those who are different? If you had empathy for that person, why would you be against change that would benefit that person? If you interpret that as “taking shots” then you’re being oversensitive. All that said, based on your view of this topic, I don’t think you’re nearly as conservative as you say you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, teef said: this thread is getting ***** up. This thread has more of a concussion than Josh Allen, and is higher than Percy Harvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: This thread has more of a concussion than Josh Allen, and is higher than Percy Harvin. now it needs to pull a vonte davis and retire at halftime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, teef said: now it needs to pull a vonte davis and retire at halftime. We're way past halftime. Once political strawman arguments came out, we found ourselves deep in the bottom of the 11th inning, the other team just got a 3 pointer, and we just got a yellow card for a helmet to helmet hit... It's a cluster *****... Edited October 3, 2019 by whatdrought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 18 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I train in brazilian jiu jitsu and Muay Thai....I take a big hit before I walk in the gym. When I'm stretching, I feel like I'm on clouds. When I actually start working, I don't feel it. When the round ends, I start feeling it again in the minute or two break. My ex used to run marathons and she would keep a cookie in her pocket. She would eat pieces through out the run and it really helped her. So what you're saying is that it really does enhance performance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: We're way past halftime. Once the enlightened liberal got here to educate us all about how evil conservatives are, we found ourselves deep in the bottom of the 11th inning, the other team just got a 3 pointer, and we just got a yellow card for a helmet to helmet hit... It's a cluster *****... So how long are we in the penalty box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: You’re offended? Good grief. I mean, the very definition of conservative is one who is averse to change and innovation. So you’re basically offended by someone who describes conservatives as exactly what they are by the definition of the word. Conserve the status quo. Why conserve it? What is your fear of progress? How else would you explain a conservative other than not having empathy for those who are different? If you had empathy for that person, why would you be against change that would benefit that person? If you interpret that as “taking shots” then you’re being oversensitive. All that said, based on your view of this topic, I don’t think you’re nearly as conservative as you say you are. Sorry, I'm not getting sucked into a political debate with some dude on a football message board. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: So how long are we in the penalty box? Until the other team gets a turkey. (sorry, ran out of good sports references and had to dig deep for bowling... I'm not proud of it.) 5 minutes ago, MR8 said: Sorry, I'm not getting sucked into a political debate with some dude on a football message board. Have a nice day. You're only walking away cause you're a close minded conservative... Edited October 3, 2019 by whatdrought 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Steve O said: So what you're saying is that it really does enhance performance... Takes your mind off the pain. Pain is still there but you just don't mind it as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: You're only walking away cause you're a close minded conservative... Yup, that must be it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 13 hours ago, whatdrought said: No body. You stepped into a conversation without reading the context and you have been confused the whole time. Actually you did. Eating ‘excess’ sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 A weed smoking axe throwing venue sounds safer than a beer drinking throwing axe bar. Except for the apple on the head competition. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I said at some point in a weed discussion that if you think there aren’t players who puff up on game day you are delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Your emotional response to the use of irony is really telling about your personal need to defend marijuana. The problem is that i wasn’t attacking marijuana. In fact, if you go throughout this entire thread, you will not find me attacking pot or even positing an opinion of that plant. Rather, what I was doing with my post that went over your head was showing that the argument “don’t knock it unless you’ve tried it” is stupid and has no validity in a genuine discussion about anything, including marijuana. That being said, you prefer a real, demonstrable example of things that we, as a society, can knock without having tried... here’s a couple: 1- Cocain 2- Heroin 3- Suicide 4- Murder 5- Rape 6- Eating contaminated meat 7- telling your wife that those pants do make her butt look fat 8- licking an electrical outlet 9- investigating the clogged mower deck while the blades are on 10- sex with animals 11- etc. As you’ll see from this list, and from the context of my original post, and the use of irony that again, went over your head, there are many many things we as a society and as individuals can condemn without ever having tried them. This is a ######ed false equivocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bakin said: Actually you did. Eating ‘excess’ sugar. I said excessively eating sugar. As in, eating large quantities. I am saying, as I have been saying this entire time, that a relative equal amount of smoke vs. sugar, smoke is worse for the body. I am not arguing that sugar is not bad for the body, I am saying that in equal amounts smoke is worse. Again, if you go and read the entire thread, if you use your eyes, you will see my argument clearly. Alternatively, you're welcome to keep interjecting nonsense into a conversation that you aren't even a part of. 2 minutes ago, Bakin said: This is a ######ed false equivocation. How? Do enlighten me. Edited October 3, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 so they can sue him for deliberate impairment every game he played and big surprise, stop the presses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I said excessively eating sugar. As in, eating large quantities. I am saying, as I have been saying this entire time, that a relative equal amount of smoke vs. sugar, smoke is worse for the body. I am not arguing that sugar is not bad for the body, I am saying that in equal amounts sugar is worse. Again, if you go and read the entire thread, if you use your eyes, you will see my argument clearly. Alternatively, you're welcome to keep interjecting nonsense into a conversation that you aren't even a part of. How? Do enlighten me. You seem obsessed that you are part of a conversation I’m not. This is an Internet thread and not a private chat. you are making a silly false equivalence that just because you haven’t tried murder that it’s the same as not having tried marijuana and so one shouldn’t comment. Fallacy. Equal amounts sugar and marijuana smoke? How is that calculated? what are the health benefits of sugar? And how do they compare to the health benefits of marijuana? Anyone ever prescribed a donut for pain? How about cancer? Epilepsy? PTSD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 16 hours ago, MJS said: Science doesn't prove things. Science provides models based on evidence. Do you know what subjective means? Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions. Do you know what the most effective form of treatment in history is? The placebo. And regardless, medical marijuana is not the topic here. There is a huge difference between that and recreational smoking. Yes correct except if you try to give a placebo to a diabetic instead of insulin you will see that it’s not a very effective treatment. when treatments are proven effective, they are used. Percy used MJ for medicinal purposes. For his pain and anxiety. And it worked for him. Are you going to say it didn’t? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bakin said: You seem obsessed that you are part of a conversation I’m not. This is an Internet thread and not a private chat. you are making a silly false equivalence that just because you haven’t tried murder that it’s the same as not having tried marijuana and so one shouldn’t comment. Fallacy. Equal amounts sugar and marijuana smoke? How is that calculated? what are the health benefits of sugar? And how do they compare to the health benefits of marijuana? Anyone ever prescribed a donut for pain? How about cancer? Epilepsy? PTSD? I'm saying that me and another poster were discussing a certain idea and that you decided to jump in- there's absolutely nothing wrong with this and I haven't told you to shutup or to not be a part of this conversation. I have mentioned, that, in order to not look like an idiot, you might want to check the context before shooting your shot. You have ignored this suggestion multiple times. It isn't a false equivalence because the root of the argument is that something can only be argued by those with first hand experience. Thus, only murderers (or I guess by extension those who have been murdered) can argue against Murder. It's a stupid and bad argument. Something need not be experienced to be evaluated. You (or rather, the person who you're defending whom you probably don't even know because you haven't bothered with the context of the thread) are arguing that opinion is based on experience. If it's that way for smoking grass, it's that way for murder. You can't create an arbitrary double standard cause "mah weed is good brah. you don't even know." As for quantifying the differences, again- go read the context. I said multiple times that that's very hard to do and I don't have an answer for that. My assertion is that if you could determine the relative equality of the two acts, smoke (of any kind- not just marijuana, something else you'd have learned by reading the thread) is worse than sugar. As for your last point, you're missing the minutia of the argument- I am not, have not, and will not argue against the medicinal properties of marijuana. Furthermore, I have admitted that these properties are quite beneficial and should be utilized (as with everything else you're misunderstanding, it's up-thread). The entirity of my argument is that inhaling smoke into the lungs is bad for the human body. Period. As for medicinal qualities of sugar, here is an article about how critical sugar is to our bodies... (https://www.endocrineweb.com/conditions/type-1-diabetes/what-insulin) Glucose and sugar intake is hugely medicinal in a myriad of contexts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 20 hours ago, MJS said: I don't want to spend all my time in this thread, so I'll just make a final clarification: I don't care if anyone wants to smoke or chooses to smoke. Have at it! But don't make the claim that smoking is good for you. Smoke is toxic no matter the source. Smoke all you want, and take advantage of those positive side effects, but don't trick yourself into believing that it isn't toxic. There are other ways to reap the benefits of marijuana without smoking it. No need to inhale smoke into your lungs at all. More people need to think outside of the box. Also, CBD is very beneficial to our bodies and minds without the effects of THC. You can find it in stores and even at farmer’s markets. Learn more about the issue before spreading negativity ??, have a great day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Anyone else high at Chick Fil A right now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Anyone else high at Chick Fil A right now? you're a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, teef said: you're a monster. You must be high at Arby's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: You must be high at Arby's. there's no arby's by my new office, but there is a kfc seconds away. i don't need that in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Anyone else high at Chick Fil A right now? Hi, I'm here for the weed debaaaa...wait, did you say Chick-Fil-A! Mmmmmmm chiiiiiicken... I'm on my way Edited October 3, 2019 by Heitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: there's no arby's by my new office, but there is a kfc seconds away. i don't need that in my life. I live walking distance to an Arby's and I take advantage of that all the time. KFC is about about a mile away and I venture over there probably twice a month. Those loaded bowls are to die for. 1 minute ago, Heitz said: Hi, I'm here for the weed debaaaa...wait, did you say Chick-Fil-A! Mmmmmmm chiiiiiicken... I'm on my way They have really good chocolate chip cookies. Especially when they're fresh baked...OMG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Does pot cause violence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, teef said: this thread is getting ***** up. this thread is high 2 hours ago, teef said: now it needs to pull a vonte davis and retire at halftime. The NFL has a reservation for Gruden's firing at the half against NE*** 16 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Does pot cause violence? what do Violins have to do with anything? Edited October 3, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 These are the fastest (and slowest) fast food drive-thrus Dunkin' Donuts clocked in with the fastest average time, at 230.38 seconds from first order window approach to full order completion. That's well under three minutes. Chick-fil-A was the slowest in the study, with an average drive-thru time of 322.98 seconds -- almost five and a half minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 hours ago, MR8 said: Immensely critical thing to say people who take prescription drugs are using it as a crutch. Not a subscriber to psychopharmacology? Xanax is a terrible drug and should only be prescribed in extreme circumstances. The kick back these drs. get for rxing mind erasing drugs is alarming. Abusing Xanax is almost as bad as opioids, which is another prescription drug overly rxed and abused. Just because a doctor says to use it doesn’t make it healthy or morally right...always obtain a second and third opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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