DC Tom Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 BREAKING NEWS: Jerry Hughes proactively fined $50,000 for a hit on Tom Brady this coming Sunday. When asked for comment, Roger Goodell said "We are dedicated to the health and safety of our players, and such recklessness as we will see two days from now will not be tolerated." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, DC Tom said: BREAKING NEWS: Jerry Hughes proactively fined $50,000 for a hit on Tom Brady this coming Sunday. When asked for comment, Roger Goodell said "We are dedicated to the health and safety of our players, and such recklessness as we will see two days from now will not be tolerated." Let's see - Brady complains about holding ahead of a game where his OL will be out matched by the Bills DL. Coincidence - I think not. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 20 hours ago, TigerJ said: The Patriots recently lost their starting left tackle, Isaiah Wynn to injury for the year. He's been replaced by Marshal Newhouse, who was not good enough to stick with the Bills, who didn't have a very good offensive line at the time. Well Newhouse was limited in practice on Wednesday due to illness, and was out on Thursday. That means Jerry could find himself lined up on a player who is not very good to begin with, and under the weather to boot. If Newhouse can't go, the Patriots could move Thuney, their starting left guard, out to left tackle or start either of a couple guys who haven't been with the team long at all: Korey Cunningham or Caleb Benenoch. Neither of them is very well regarded. I can see why Tom Brady is lobbying the league to allow more offensive holding. I hope someone for the Bills counter-lobbies the officials to call it when they see it. Was talking about this today with Bills buddies. I think with our interior pass rush doing so nicely in pass rush pressures, the outside guys are going to have a day. Especially Hughes from the blindside. Hope either Jerry or Trent ends up with Brady's arm snapped clean off and they throw it into the stands. But i do think Hughes and Lawson are licking their chops for the matchups. no need to stunt this week. go right at them mano el mano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Bills fans (including myself) call for and/or demand hits on Brady leading up to every Patriots game. It almost never happens. I hope someone proves me wrong. He gets rid of the ball too soon and knows how to eat plays that bust right off the bat. He doesn't stand around with the ball in his hand waiting to get hammered. Stay at the LOS with 5 guys and become volleyball players. Bat every throw down or up for an int. Let him do his 3 step drop and form a wall.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Hughes -- 2 sacks, Oliver -- 1 sack, Murphy -- 1 sack. No sacks from 2nd or 3rd level as McD opts to trust the rush to his DL and occupy as much space as possible with LB's and DB's to make them earn every yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 The Pats will try to establish the run. Being weak at left tackle should assure pressure with sending 4 and should take the deep threat away from the Pats. The Bills will need 25 points to win the game so Im more worried about the offense, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 We really need that blow up game from Jerry like NO other. Let's go HUGHES!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Danny DeVito!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) I miss Kelvin Sheppard... 3 ... Edited September 29, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 9:21 AM, formerlyofCtown said: The way to get to Brady is up the middle. Brady loves it up the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 10:05 AM, TigerJ said: I agree, but having a great defensive end on the outside is something the blocking scheme has to account for, and that can only make it easier for the interior pass rush to be effective. absotively need all four to push the line into Mrs Brady's face On 9/27/2019 at 11:51 AM, Nextmanup said: Bills fans (including myself) call for and/or demand hits on Brady leading up to every Patriots game. It almost never happens. I hope someone proves me wrong. He gets rid of the ball too soon and knows how to eat plays that bust right off the bat. He doesn't stand around with the ball in his hand waiting to get hammered. our short area pass coverage is pretty decent. he might gEt frustrated and pat the ball twice. welcome to jerrys world. blindside destruction just awaiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 4:16 PM, DC Tom said: BREAKING NEWS: Jerry Hughes proactively fined $50,000 for a hit on Tom Brady this coming Sunday. When asked for comment, Roger Goodell said "We are dedicated to the health and safety of our players, and such recklessness as we will see two days from now will not be tolerated." Top notch stuff ye olde curmudgeon. thanks for the hearty chuckle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: Brady loves it up the middle Or pressure from the backside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 8:14 AM, PatsFanNH said: UNLIKE most teams the Pats have the BEST Offensive Line Coach in the NFL. He will have the line ready and Hughes will have 2 people blocking him and Brady will be doing quick hits to Dorsett and Edelman to tire the pass rush out then hit Gordon deep for a highlight real catch. lol or at least that will be the game plan. Brady needs less than 3 seconds get rid of the ball usually.. Finally! Someone speaks facts and knowledge. Not myths and fabrications... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/27/2019 at 7:07 AM, HOUSE said: Don't even nudge Tom Brady without the ball, flags everywhere. Since 2009, teams have been called for 28 RTP penalties against Brady. 28 penalties in 6824 attempts. That's 0.41 penalties per 100 pass attempts. Obviously, the "You can't touch Brady" nonsense is 100% made up and false. https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php? Meanwhile, Brady is the 7th most sacked QB in NFL history. In reality, teams are allowed to hit Brady at will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tiffany980 said: Since 2009, teams have been called for 28 RTP penalties against Brady. 28 penalties in 6824 attempts. That's 0.41 penalties per 100 pass attempts. Obviously, the "You can't touch Brady" nonsense is 100% made up and false How many of those attempts was he even touched, is what i’d like to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, RiotAct said: How many of those attempts was he even touched, is what i’d like to know... That I couldn't find. No matter what though, when it comes to sports, politics, and religion facts rarely change anyone's minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 10:18 PM, BuffaloBill said: Jerry has to be drooling right now.... there should also be a clear path for milano.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Well, now what do we say about this matchup? I was at the game and noticed Jerry was getting held some. And I mean blatantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 22 hours ago, Tiffany980 said: That I couldn't find. No matter what though, when it comes to sports, politics, and religion facts rarely change anyone's minds. When Tom retires at the end of the year are you going to be ok? He is done. The league is going to abuse him to get back at him for 19 years. The oline coupled with his inability to move and how scared he is. This is going to get ugly for the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I watched the game and didnt notice JH55...AGAIN....but hey, last year he was a leader in the PRESSURE Stat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, KW95 - JA17 said: I watched the game and didnt notice JH55...AGAIN....but hey, last year he was a leader in the PRESSURE Stat..... Look Hughes is far from a problem with this team but at some point, can we stop making excuses why he doesn’t get sacks or make more impact plays? All great pass rushers get held. Aaron Donald gets tripled teamed. This D is an elite pass rusher away from being one of the best groups in Bills history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 4:40 AM, Tiffany980 said: Since 2009, teams have been called for 28 RTP penalties against Brady. 28 penalties in 6824 attempts. That's 0.41 penalties per 100 pass attempts. Obviously, the "You can't touch Brady" nonsense is 100% made up and false. https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php? Meanwhile, Brady is the 7th most sacked QB in NFL history. In reality, teams are allowed to hit Brady at will... The board doesn’t deal well with facts 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Look Hughes is far from a problem with this team but at some point, can we stop making excuses why he doesn’t get sacks or make more impact plays? All great pass rushers get held. Aaron Donald gets tripled teamed. This D is an elite pass rusher away from being one of the best groups in Bills history. Murphy is the problem not Hughes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: When Tom retires at the end of the year are you going to be ok? He is done. The league is going to abuse him to get back at him for 19 years. The oline coupled with his inability to move and how scared he is. This is going to get ugly for the Pats. Have you seen the state of the AFCE? NE has the only competent owner and the best coach. NE will own the division until the other 3 teams change owners and get QBs. Allen, Darnold, and whoever the Dolphins trot out aren't winning anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) On 9/29/2019 at 7:40 AM, Tiffany980 said: Since 2009, teams have been called for 28 RTP penalties against Brady. 28 penalties in 6824 attempts. That's 0.41 penalties per 100 pass attempts. Obviously, the "You can't touch Brady" nonsense is 100% made up and false. https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php? Meanwhile, Brady is the 7th most sacked QB in NFL history. In reality, teams are allowed to hit Brady at will... ??? — Brady over the course of his career has been sacked at a rate of 4.8 percent per dropback. That ain’t even remotely close to 7th most. I can come up with 10 Bills qbs off the top of my head who have been sacked at a higher rate. Edited October 1, 2019 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: ??? — Brady over the course of his career has been sacked at a rate of 4.8 percent per dropback. That ain’t even remotely close to 7th most. I can come up with 10 Bills qbs off the top of my head who have been sacked at a higher rate. Brady is the 7th most sacked QB in NFL history. Here's the link...https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_sacked_career.htm The rate I posted wasn't a sack rate. It was a roughing the passer rate. Brady rarely gets roughing the passer calls. https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php? Perhaps your "off the top of my head" stats are more accurate than the NFL's official stats, but I doubt it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Tiffany980 said: Have you seen the state of the AFCE? NE has the only competent owner and the best coach. NE will own the division until the other 3 teams change owners and get QBs. Allen, Darnold, and whoever the Dolphins trot out aren't winning anything. Apparently Denial IS a river in Egypt... On 9/29/2019 at 7:40 AM, Tiffany980 said: Obviously, the "You can't touch Brady" nonsense is 100% made up and false. Official to Miami defense: "Take it easy on Tom. Don't touch him" It's all over the place so don't even try to deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Apparently Denial IS a river in Egypt... Official to Miami defense: "Take it easy on Tom. Don't touch him" It's all over the place so don't even try to deny it. It's a struggle to take anything you say seriously when you actually believe that nonsense. Especially when Brady is one of the most hit QBs in NFL history with very few roughing calls. I've posted links earlier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, Tiffany980 said: Have you seen the state of the AFCE? NE has the only competent owner and the best coach. NE will own the division until the other 3 teams change owners and get QBs. Allen, Darnold, and whoever the Dolphins trot out aren't winning anything. Yes or no answer please- will you keep coming here if the Pats season falls apart and they lose to the Bills in December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 7:40 AM, Tiffany980 said: Since 2009, teams have been called for 28 RTP penalties against Brady. 28 penalties in 6824 attempts. That's 0.41 penalties per 100 pass attempts. Obviously, the "You can't touch Brady" nonsense is 100% made up and false. https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php? Meanwhile, Brady is the 7th most sacked QB in NFL history. In reality, teams are allowed to hit Brady at will... That site is total bunk, read the guys blog, HES A PATS*** FAN not affiliated with the NFL, doesn’t identify his source data... so bunk it pisses me off you’d try to pass this crap as reality.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Yes or no answer please- will you keep coming here if the Pats season falls apart and they lose to the Bills in December? Of course I will. Will you keep coming here while the Bills season continues to fall apart now that they've lost their SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Correct answer : The Refs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiffany980 said: Of course I will. Will you keep coming here while the Bills season continues to fall apart now that they've lost their SB? I’ve been here for a long time. Oh and what Pats board are you a member of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Say When... said: That site is total bunk, read the guys blog, HES A PATS*** FAN not affiliated with the NFL, doesn’t identify his source data... so bunk it pisses me off you’d try to pass this crap as reality.. So prove that the data is wrong then. Otherwise no one really cares because you're not making any point. Goodell is a Jets fan. So what? How has the fact that the commissioner of the league is a fan of a rival helped them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tiffany980 said: It's a struggle to take anything you say seriously when you actually believe that nonsense. Especially when Brady is one of the most hit QBs in NFL history with very few roughing calls. I've posted links earlier... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tom-brady-getting-special-treatment-dolphins-linebacker-claims-ref-told-him-to-stay-off-patriots-qb/ "Although there's no way to 100 percent prove that the ref said this, McMillan's story seems to check out. At one point in the game, you can see him put his hands up in the air after making a hit on Brady. Also, after the play, it appears that both McMillan and Brady were looking at the ref, who was set up behind the Patriots quarterback." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Tiffany980 said: Brady is the 7th most sacked QB in NFL history. Here's the link...https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_sacked_career.htm The rate I posted wasn't a sack rate. It was a roughing the passer rate. Brady rarely gets roughing the passer calls. https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughing-the-passer-by-qb.php? Perhaps your "off the top of my head" stats are more accurate than the NFL's official stats, but I doubt it... ??? — he has played an incredible number of snaps over nearly 19 seasons! Of course he’s going to have more sacks than most given that he may well up play more snaps at qb than any other qb in history when it’s all said and done. That’s irrelevant, though, to how frequently a qb is sacked (a far more indicative stat), and he gets sacked at a fairly low rate. Except for the first season he started in, he’s always been sacked at a low rate.The roughing rate is far more germane to the point you’re trying to make. As for the Bills, I did indeed find 10 QBs off the top of my head who were sacked at a higher rate. It’s all on www.pro-football-reference.com . Edited October 1, 2019 by dave mcbride 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiffany980 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 12 hours ago, dave mcbride said: ??? — he has played an incredible number of snaps over nearly 19 seasons! Of course he’s going to have more sacks than most given that he may well up play more snaps at qb than any other qb in history when it’s all said and done. That’s irrelevant, though, to how frequently a qb is sacked (a far more indicative stat), and he gets sacked at a fairly low rate. Except for the first season he started in, he’s always been sacked at a low rate.The roughing rate is far more germane to the point you’re trying to make. As for the Bills, I did indeed find 10 QBs off the top of my head who were sacked at a higher rate. It’s all on www.pro-football-reference.com . The narrative was that whenever anyone even breathed on Brady they would get flagged for roughing the passer. Obviously, that's total nonsense. The reality is that teams rarely get flagged for hitting TB12. That's what this is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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