Patrick Duffy Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: I dont see anyones user name as purple...who are you referring to Pretty sure he was referring to the Element115 poster that's just trolling every other thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Pretty sure he was referring to the Element115 poster that's just trolling every other thread. Correct. Previously MacGuyver, T Bomb, Rosen not Chose, WhyteDwarf... I'm sure I'm missing a few. Everyone should have caught onto it by now. He is a nuisance by design. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 this route over the middle with 2 defenders near by ..... Wasn't Sammy hurt on a similar pass in the EZ from EJ? I recall many people saying EJ wass throwing Sammy into trouble and will get him killed. My how time changes these little things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: this route over the middle with 2 defenders near by ..... Wasn't Sammy hurt on a similar pass in the EZ from EJ? I recall many people saying EJ wass throwing Sammy into trouble and will get him killed. My how time changes these little things Its the NFL, there are ALWAYS defenders near by. Nothings changed, Zay still cant catch when it matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Its the NFL, there are ALWAYS defenders near by. Nothings changed, Zay still cant catch when it matters. I am not arguing that Zay should have caught that . He took his eye off the ball to look at the defender behind him (like many players do) I was just indicating how the perspective changes QB to QB and team to team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Some of you are very sensitive Its that small city syndrome crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 hours ago, DCofNC said: One worked, the other didn't. Mayfield also can do no wrong in the eyes of ths media. Hell it was celebrated when he ripped a beer can open with his teeth and chugged it on the jumbotron.. That would have gotten him shamed for days if he were virtually anyone else. Let Baker and his inflated ego get all the attention. His "look at me" personality will come back to bite him. Let Josh stay under the radar and develop at a normal pace. That throw to Zay couldn't be more perfect. Jones simply alligator armed it and was looking at the safety before the ball even arrived. As a wr he drives me nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: I am not arguing that Zay should have caught that . He took his eye off the ball to look at the defender behind him (like many players do) I was just indicating how the perspective changes QB to QB and team to team. You started a thread on how Jones would get cut and I thought you were nuts. I even predicted he’d catch the firs TD pass of the year. I’m not so sure you’ll be wrong. He has to catch that ball, and there are guys like Phillips and Foster ready to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Element115 said: I'd like to say it's a growing trend due to the shift to outrage culture, but even in the 90's Bills Fans were sensitive. Anyone have a link the Mayfiled pass? I'm too lazy to go find it. Great point. I haven't lived in Buffalo since the 90s. All I heard then was Kelly throws too many picks, Kelly doesn't get along with Thurman, Kelly is overrated, they party too much, etc So times never change..... people are often only happy when there is success that they haven't tasted for awhile. Hopefully that is soon for us Bills fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I thought preseason was meaningless ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, K-9 said: Like the one directly above Alphadawg’s post above? He said username not avatar. And that poster has like 3k posts... Edited August 13, 2019 by Bevis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: You started a thread on how Jones would get cut and I thought you were nuts. I even predicted he’d catch the firs TD pass of the year. I’m not so sure you’ll be wrong. He has to catch that ball, and there are guys like Phillips and Foster ready to take over. What???? Sorry not I. I have been one of Zay's few defenders You sure you were thinking of Alpha or Nasty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Florio can't help but wonder if Zay would have made the catch had he been in a more exciting place... a place that players WANT to be... a place further to the north After all, he's just a guy asking questions! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: What???? Sorry not I. I have been one of Zay's few defenders You sure you were thinking of Alpha or Nasty? It was alpha. My bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Hits like Jones took happen literally every NFL game. Football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: It was alpha. My bad. No problem. I've made similar mistakes myself Just now, Binghamton Beast said: Hits like Jones took happen literally every NFL game. Football. Yup. But like I sad the story changes depending on who you like or dislike. The EJ throwing guys into danger had gone on for close to a month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 "throwing guys into danger...." Someone ought to ask Welker or Edelman about that, if either one can still form a sentence after all the crazy shots they have taken. Edelman, as much as I can't stand him, I have to respect the way he takes huge shots every game when Brady "throws him into danger" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: "throwing guys into danger...." Someone ought to ask Welker or Edelman about that, if either one can still form a sentence after all the crazy shots they have taken. Edelman, as much as I can't stand him, I have to respect the way he takes huge shots every game when Brady "throws him into danger" Pawns on a chess board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Bevis said: Pawns on a chess board... exactly... I watch Edelman take an absolute beating every week, and nobody ever says anything about Brady "throwing him into danger" Brady just throws it and you had better catch it if you play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, TheFunPolice said: exactly... I watch Edelman take an absolute beating every week, and nobody ever says anything about Brady "throwing him into danger" Brady just throws it and you had better catch it if you play there. I kinda feel bad for Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Bevis said: I kinda feel bad for Beasley. Why? Everything is grey and silver and 8-8 in Dallas.... BLAH! Ugly uniforms, overpriced stadium, mediocre football. Here we are the TRUE America's team (red, white, and blue) and we're about to put the evil empire down. This is way more fun, as he noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bevis said: He said username not avatar. And that poster has like 3k posts... I was focusing more on the being drawn into a “long, stupid argument with zero basis in fact” aspect and I saw an immediate similarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) A question i hadn’t seen yet it the midst of hating Zay, disliking the throw and whether QBs fitting balls in tight windows are lethal to WRs or not... Where’s the flag for the defender nearly taking the WR head off when he didn’t even catch the ball? Isnt that exactly the sort sort of thing they are trying to discourage? Looked like a forearm to the head. Looked like the guy was looking at the official right afterward to see if a flag was coming Edited August 13, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Why? Everything is grey and silver and 8-8 in Dallas.... BLAH! Ugly uniforms, overpriced stadium, mediocre football. Here we are the TRUE America's team (red, white, and blue) and we're about to put the evil empire down. This is way more fun, as he noted. I guess I mean as far as being a pawn. He'll have to get used to falling on his sword. I have to confess though, I don't know much about Dak and if he leads his receivers into hard hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: Agreed. I think the major consensus was that it was a good throw, between the defender and he put the ball right on Clifford Franklin's Zay's hands. He just dropped it, while looking for the safety. Seemed to me to be a seam pass that could only be placed where it was. Zay was going to take a hit and alligator-armed it. IMO, I don't really blame a receiver for taking the safer route during preseason and prepping for a hit vs laying out for a pass so the affair was a bit of a noth'n burger. Now if he does not have the stones during an actual game and drops a sure TD because he does not want to pay a price for the score, or just shows the drive-killing inconsistencies and fighting the ball that have plagued his game to date, that is another story we will all gleefully beat to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, mrags said: It was money if you mean on target. Should have been thrown earlier than it was tho. Had it been thrown earlier, Josh wouldn’t have put Zay in a position to get murdered. And before you get crazy, just know I’m a huge Allen fan. But that throw was a tad late. Still should have have been caught tho. Did you actually watch this play. It was a play action pass where he faked to the RB, stood up and threw it. No hesitation, no scanning the field. Please tell us how he could have thrown it any sooner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, billykay said: Did you actually watch this play. It was a play action pass where he faked to the RB, stood up and threw it. No hesitation, no scanning the field. Please tell us how he could have thrown it any sooner. Any “sooner” off the play fake and the pass would have been rushed. As it is, he got it off in 2 friggen seconds. And Allen would be facing even more criticism. Edited August 13, 2019 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, billykay said: Did you actually watch this play. It was a play action pass where he faked to the RB, stood up and threw it. No hesitation, no scanning the field. Please tell us how he could have thrown it any sooner. Yeah. I was there. In the same end zone where zay almost got murdered. It was late. Period 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bevis said: I kinda feel bad for Beasley. been pretty busy the last 3 hours. welcome to the board, just a question out of curiosity. what inspired you to use that ugly mug for your avatar? fan of bevis and butthead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 My theory is that anyone who has this negative agenda about Allen (which is many people for whatever reason) will see every pass over the middle as late, dangerous, inaccurate, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: Any “sooner” off the play fake and the pass would have been rushed. As it is, he got it off in 2 friggen seconds. And Allen would be facing even more criticism. If that was late then the route and playaction aren’t compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If that was late then the route and playaction aren’t compatible. Period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Period? JA set his feet with 1 hop and fired. The only way it gets out faster is without the play action fake, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If that was late then the route and playaction aren’t compatible. Only a guess and certainly could be wrong, but the play action was likely in place to freeze a linebacker in coverage. As to the safety deep, usually in those red zone situations you have a receiver coming across that can rub him or draw him away. For us arm-chair QBs there is a lot that could have gone wrong with that play's execution that has nothing to do with Allen; Perhaps Zay was supposed to hesitate somewhere along his route to give time for someone else to clear the safety, perhaps the safety just did a great job reading Allen's eyes, or perhaps it was just a poorly designed play that left Zay out to dry. Coming to any conclusion without really knowing how the play was designed and intended to be executed is just poor conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WideNine said: Only a guess and certainly could be wrong, but the play action was likely in place to freeze a linebacker in coverage. As to the safety deep, usually in those red zone situations you have a receiver coming across that can rub him or draw him away. For us arm-chair QBs there is a lot that could have gone wrong with that play's execution that has nothing to do with Allen; Perhaps Zay was supposed to hesitate somewhere along his route to give time for someone else to clear the safety, perhaps the safety just did a great job reading Allen's eyes, or perhaps it was just a poorly designed play that left Zay out to dry. Coming to any conclusion without really knowing how the play was designed and intended to be executed is just poor conjecture. It’s just conjecture that my perspective is poor conjecture ? All I’m trying to say is no one is doing play-action and hitting that route faster regarding the Late comment. Also, after dropping the pass looks like he’s reaching for the ball, making himself even more vulnerable to that (arguably a defenseless WR) hit Edited August 13, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: It’s just conjecture that my perspective is poor conjecture ? All I’m trying to say is no one is doing play-action and hitting that route faster regarding the Late comment. Also, after dropping the pass looks like he’s reaching for the ball, making himself even more vulnerable to that (arguably a defenseless WR) hit More geared to those who were saying it was definitely a late pass - it could have just been a poorly designed play, poorly executed play by the receivers, or a good read by the safety. Folks see what they want to see, but I do agree with you that I do not think that Allen had a lot of time to change that play or throw it anywhere else. Also, if thrown a quasi-second earlier perhaps it would of doinked off the back of Zay's helmet and imagine how folks would howl about Allen's timing if that happened 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 6 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Great throw by Josh. Zays eyes came up before he secured the catch. Gotta be tough to go over the middle (see Andre Reed). However....its preseason. So Zay gets a pass on this one (pun intended). Might as well catch the ball. He got creamed anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bangarang said: This is such fake news. BTW, Mayfield looks like he’s going to be incredible. Nope, the Browns are the Browns. Somehow some way Mayfield will do something dumb. Probably fall down a manhole Gfycat Edited August 13, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Nope, the Browns are the Browns. Somehow some way Mayfield will do something dumb. Probably fall down a manhole Gfycat A person hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Who cares, go win and these type of things will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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