Gugny Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: He's a lock like the Welland Canal locks which are like the Kardashian girls netherregions. If you just set off the Exiled alarm, I'll kill you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: You are right on that, but I think he's pretty close to one because he's not only still a good football player, they love what he brings to the team and locker room character wise and as a good presence around our young guys. But yeah, saying he is a lock was probably a bit over stated by me, so you are right. No Gore is a lock. Nothing even comes close to suggesting otherwise. Surprises definitely happen, but I'd be shocked if Gore was cuy. No one is trading for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: If you just set off the Exiled alarm, I'll kill you. If it will set you off I hope it happens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargepole Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Well, after the second pre-season game, it seems that your head coach now has a clear indication of which players make the 53-man active roster. They are: Josh Allen Christian Wade 51 others to make up the numbers. There you go, sorted, no further discussion required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Is there any scenario where Wade can be poached by another team? Because there are some teams desperate for Running Backs right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 In Wade's first 2 plays in an NFL uniform he gained 113 yards and scored a Touchdown. He's making a pretty damn good case for being put on the active roster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 hours ago, unbillievable said: Is there any scenario where Wade can be poached by another team? Because there are some teams desperate for Running Backs right now. No he moves to PS he cannot be touched. He is the Bills player unless he gets completely cut not allocated to PS or traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Wade would have scored of he turned right after the last broken tackle. So close, mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) Well...honestly i find it impossible to believe that a single man could be the entire 53 man roster as this thread title suggests, but i mean stranger things could happen... Maybe he could turn into The Flash and snap the ball to himself and then throw it to himself and then catch it...wouldnt need any blocking cause he would be so fast...wonder how the refs would rule that with only one guy on the field?? Edited August 17, 2019 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Anybody know how the other International Pathway players are doing so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: No he moves to PS he cannot be touched. He is the Bills player unless he gets completely cut not allocated to PS or traded So another team can't put Wade on their 53 after he is cut by the Bills, but before he is placed on the practice squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'd find a spot for this kid on our opening day roster. He has some type of special play making ability when you see him run. This is what we have been missing! I'm on board with team Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, unbillievable said: So another team can't put Wade on their 53 after he is cut by the Bills, but before he is placed on the practice squad? Another team can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Another team can. Wade will never make it to the practice squad. He'll either be on the Bills' 53 or some other teams' active roster. Edited August 17, 2019 by unbillievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Well...honestly i find it impossible to believe that a single man could be the entire 53 man roster as this thread title suggests, but i mean stranger things could happen... Maybe he could turn into The Flash and snap the ball to himself and then throw it to himself and then catch it...wouldnt need any blocking cause he would be so fast...wonder how the refs would rule that with only one guy on the field?? There was the Disney production "The Worlds Greatest Athlete!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Wade will never make it to the practice squad. He'll either be on the Bills' 53 or some other teams' active roster. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 "The four AFC East clubs will carry these overseas players on their roster until the end of training camp. At that time, the players are eligible for an international player practice squad exemption, granting them an eleventh practice squad member that is ineligible to be activated during the 2019 season." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001025740/article/four-international-players-added-to-rosters-ahead-of-2019-season I read this as we can keep him as the 11th PS member and no one can claim him. I am Dopey though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 12 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: Trade McCoy. Cut Yeldon. RBs: Gore, Singletary, Perry, Wade Because there's no way another team doesn't pick Wade up at this point. No other team can. Need to understand the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dopey said: "The four AFC East clubs will carry these overseas players on their roster until the end of training camp. At that time, the players are eligible for an international player practice squad exemption, granting them an eleventh practice squad member that is ineligible to be activated during the 2019 season." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001025740/article/four-international-players-added-to-rosters-ahead-of-2019-season I read this as we can keep him as the 11th PS member and no one can claim him. I am Dopey though. that is how I interpreted it. Because of the roster exemption it seemed like to me that the bills basically had exclusive rights to him for at least one full year not subject to waivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Oh yeah, totally agree. The way I see it is this: If Wade makes another big play, or a couple nice plays in the 2nd half of the 3rd pre-season game, I think he gets some early reps in the 4th. I would bet someone like Yeldon starts the 4th preaseaon game and I can see Wade coming in during the first half and getting a lot of minutes IF...and thats only IF...they are seriously considering him for the 53. If he doesnt come into the final preseason game until late, then I think thats a clear sign he's headed to the PS. But at this point, I think he's a lock for the PS if he doesn't make the 53 since he has the exemption anyway. My understanding is they can (I could be wrong). He is ONLY stuck on the PS in the specific case where we use the EXTRA player exemption. He is stuck there because we have a free extra player over all other teams. I do believe, if they put him on the practice squad WITHOUT using the extra player exemption he can be reactivated but also can be picked up by someone else too. So its fair...he is only stuck there if we are using something the other teams dont have and make him untouchable. Exactly. He can be cut and Bills could explain ahead of time what they are doing but if they cut him to bring him back to PS he could still choose to go elsewhere where his chances are harder. Bills could do what other teams have done and pay him more than standard PS pay but if he really wants to play he may choose to go elsewhere anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: No he moves to PS he cannot be touched. He is the Bills player unless he gets completely cut not allocated to PS or traded He's not ready for prime time. I doubt he's going to Play STs, so anyone who would try to poach him would have to stash him on the 53. It appears you're saying, though, that, as the designated transition player, the Bills can assign him to the PS without going through waivers? 6 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: that is how I interpreted it. Because of the roster exemption it seemed like to me that the bills basically had exclusive rights to him for at least one full year not subject to waivers Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, TPS said: He's not ready for prime time. I doubt he's going to Play STs, so anyone who would try to poach him would have to stash him on the 53. It appears you're saying, though, that, as the designated transition player, the Bills can assign him to the PS without going through waivers? With what he’s flashed, the odds are high that some team will take a chance on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 As far as I've read, Wade is treated the exact same as any other player. He can be cut and signed by another team to their active roster. I don't see any language giving the Bills exclusive rights. The Bills only have an extra 11th exemption if the player is not signed at all; giving international players a 2nd chance; only then does the protections kick in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Christian is exciting, but man he made the wrong cut at the end. He could have cut to the right pylon and walked in. Wouldn't surprise me if the Bills sign him to a 1 year contract after he's been on the practice squad for most of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Exactly. He can be cut and Bills could explain ahead of time what they are doing but if they cut him to bring him back to PS he could still choose to go elsewhere where his chances are harder. Bills could do what other teams have done and pay him more than standard PS pay but if he really wants to play he may choose to go elsewhere anyways. Except the guy turned down a large Rugby contract to give the NFL a shot. He's focused on opportunity, not money. Wade will accept a spot on any teams 53 above a PS spot. 1 minute ago, ScotSHO said: Christian is exciting, but man he made the wrong cut at the end. He could have cut to the right pylon and walked in. Wouldn't surprise me if the Bills sign him to a 1 year contract after he's been on the practice squad for most of the year. Saw that too. He also flattened out at the end. I'm patiently waiting for him to lateral the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Probably ran out of gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: So another team can't put Wade on their 53 after he is cut by the Bills, but before he is placed on the practice squad? No he has been allocated to the Bills. 24 minutes ago, TPS said: He's not ready for prime time. I doubt he's going to Play STs, so anyone who would try to poach him would have to stash him on the 53. It appears you're saying, though, that, as the designated transition player, the Bills can assign him to the PS without going through waivers? Thanks. Correct. He has a direct path the the PS. It is part of the program if he doesn’t make the 53 out of camp he goes right to PS and is Bills player for the year. Can’t be called up just developed on PS until he signs his Futures Contract at the end of the year. 51 minutes ago, Frez said: I'd find a spot for this kid on our opening day roster. He has some type of special play making ability when you see him run. This is what we have been missing! I'm on board with team Wade. You are making this assessment on a couple plays against future insurance salesmen? 44 minutes ago, Doc said: Yup. Impossible by rules of the program 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: No he has been allocated to the Bills. Where does it say that he is exclusive to Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Frez said: I'd find a spot for this kid on our opening day roster. He has some type of special play making ability when you see him run. This is what we have been missing! I'm on board with team Wade. The Bills may have to flip the script on this one, and find a way to get Wade on the field. I would like to see some 1st team reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Where does it say that he is exclusive to Buffalo? For the 2019 NFL season, the AFC East has been chosen at random as the division that receive international players as a part of the International Player Development Program should they not be signed to free agent contracts. The AFC East follows the NFC South (2017) and AFC North (2018) as divisions participating in this program. At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption on an AFC East team with teams being given an exemption for an eleventh practice squad member - ineligible to be activated during the season. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001024156/article/international-player-pathway-program-pro-day%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=team%3Dcin%3Bteam%3Datl%3Bteam%3Dcar%3Bteam%3Darz%3Bteam%3Ddal%3Bteam%3Dphi%3Bteam%3Dmin%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bconf%3Dnfc%3Bdvsn%3Dacn%3Bdvsn%3Dncs%3Bdvsn%3Dncw%3Bdvsn%3Dnce%3Bdvsn%3Dncn&sr=amp he makes the Bills 53 or he is on Bills 11 man PS. So he gets Off the International Pathway Program at the end of the year IF he signs a Futures contract. Only chance he has to another teams 53 is 2020 if he signs a Futures contract. Edited August 17, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: No he has been allocated to the Bills. Correct. He has a direct path the the PS. It is part of the program if he doesn’t make the 53 out of camp he goes right to PS and is Bills player for the year. Can’t be called up just developed on PS until he signs his Futures Contract at the end of the year. You are making this assessment on a couple plays against future insurance salesmen? Impossible by rules of the program The rules of the program say he is eligible for the international squad exemption. It does say he can make the regular Practice squad as well as the 53, not that he goes straight to the 11th spot on the PS after training camp. I don't see where he DOESN'T go through waivers, or that another team can't sign him to their 53, especially since they go through cuts like any other player. 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: For the 2019 NFL season, the AFC East has been chosen at random as the division that receive international players as a part of the International Player Development Program should they not be signed to free agent contracts. The AFC East follows the NFC South (2017) and AFC North (2018) as divisions participating in this program. At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption on an AFC East team with teams being given an exemption for an eleventh practice squad member - ineligible to be activated during the season. Edited August 17, 2019 by unbillievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, unbillievable said: The rules of the program say he is eligible for the international squad. It also says he can make the regular Practice squad as well as the 53. I don't see where he DOESN'T go through waivers. The Bills and the other three AFC East clubs each get a roster exemption from the NFL, allowing them to carry 91 players on their roster instead of the typical 90-player offseason roster. At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption with teams being given an exemption for an eleventh practice squad member – ineligible to be activated during the season. Again the Training camp exemption can become a PS exemption. It is the Bills 53 or Bills PS. That is how this program works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: The Bills may have to flip the script on this one, and find a way to get Wade on the field. I would like to see some 1st team reps. Preseason game 4. I think he will get a ton of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The Bills and the other three AFC East clubs each get a roster exemption from the NFL, allowing them to carry 91 players on their roster instead of the typical 90-player offseason roster. At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption with teams being given an exemption for an eleventh practice squad member – ineligible to be activated during the season. Again the Training camp exemption can become a PS exemption. It is the Bills 53 or Bills PS. That is how this program works. The program works to give international players a second chance to make the roster... after they are cut. Which seems odd to make them go through if they go straight to the PS. What you're suggesting is that the rules force them on the Practice Squad regardless of how they do, good or bad. That makes no sense considering news articles highlighting these players getting CUT, then having them wait to see if the team takes the OPTION of the 11th exemption or not. Nothing you've shown says they are EXCLUSIVE, only that the Bills have more options. To be fair, I have nothing to show that they are NOT exclusive, either. Can't seem to find that info on the internet. Draft picks don't get these exclusive protections if they don't make the 53, why would INTL players? Edited August 17, 2019 by unbillievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Preseason game 4. I think he will get a ton of action. I hope that Wade does see extended action. We need to see more of him. If he continues to play like this on the first team, then it could turn in to an embarrassment down the line if they don't put him on the 53 man. I don't see anything special about the Bills current RBs outside of the potential of Singletary. Frank Gore is well...Frank Gore! A wonderful testament of conditioning and endurance. Then the Shady dilemma...what version is going to show up? Is he done? Will he rediscover his youth one more time? Edited August 17, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, unbillievable said: The program works to give international players a second chance to make the roster... after they are cut. Which seems odd to make them go through if they go straight to the PS. What you're suggesting is that the rules force them on the Practice Squad regardless of how they do, good or bad. That makes no sense considering news articles highlighting these players getting CUT, then having them wait to see if the team takes the OPTION of the 11th exemption or not. Draft picks don't get these protections, why would INTL players? Nothing you've shown says they are EXCLUSIVE, only that the Bills have more options. To be fair, I have nothing to show that they are NOT exclusive, either. Can't seem to find that info on the internet. That is EXACTLY how the Program works. They have the chance to sign as a Future UFA at end of season and be a normal player. They where not signed and chose to be part of this program. Hence why AFCE has been given 91 slots in Camp and 11 slots on PS. He makes the Bills 53 or he continues his development on Bills PS. If At the end of the season Bills sign him or ANY steam signs him to a futures deal now he is a normal NFL player. If he goes Unsigned again he can be a part of the program again where he will be ALLOCATED To a team. That is how the program works. so he will be a Bill in 2019. And it isn’t like the Bills scouts picked him. He was ALLOCATED to Buffalo via random draw. Edited August 17, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 There is no scenario that puts Wade on our Active roster this year. This is a guy who has never played American football till this year. His rugby background gives him an advantage but he will need at least a year on a PS to truly be ready to take a roster spot IMO. So much about this game this man still needs tol absorb. But I sure hope the Bills take advantage and get him on our PS and a real shot next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Four players that participated in the program in 2018 -- Moritz Böhringer (Cincinnati Bengals), Christopher Ezeala (Baltimore Ravens), Tigie Sankoh (Cleveland Browns) and Christian Scotland-Williamson(Pittsburgh Steelers) -- will return to their NFC North teams for the upcoming season. Now when these players get above will be free to sign anywhere as they where not part of this years Pathway Program because they signed Futures deals at the end of 2018 with each of their teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 All the info on how Wade can make the PS is in the other thread. He can make the 53 or be placed on the PS where he has to stay for the season and is protected from being “stolen” by any other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) There is still nothing that says another team can't sign him to their roster if the Bills cut him on cutdown day. It appears that the assumption is that if the Bills don't sign him to their roster, no other team would want him and thus he would go to the PS. Edited August 17, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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