Doc Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, MJS said: I'm honestly wondering who you are talking about. AJ McCarron? Is he what passes for a game proven vet these days? Yeah, I’m not sure either. McCarron didn’t (get a chance to) show anything in Oakland to say they made a mistake in trading him and they got a draft pick for him. Plus he was not interested in mentoring Josh. Maybe his play against Baltimore would have been less embarrassing than Peterman's was, but I doubt it would have affected the outcome of the game. The other name that was mentioned was Glenn, but he had a down year in Cincy as well and they traded him to try and get Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, I’m not sure either. McCarron didn’t (get a chance to) show anything in Oakland to say they made a mistake in trading him and they got a draft pick for him. Plus he was not interested in mentoring Josh. Maybe his play against Baltimore would have been less embarrassing than Peterman's was, but I doubt it would have affected the outcome of the game. The other name that was mentioned was Glenn, but he had a down year in Cincy as well and they traded him to try and get Josh. Maybe he was talking about two years ago with some of the trades like Sammy Watkins or something, but Watkins hasn't done anything and we made the playoffs that year. It's got to be McCarron he's talking about, which is silly because he hasn't played, but maybe the insinuation is that he would have done better than Peterman. 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Agreed. Peterman is a prime example of jumping to conclusions based on camp play.... now if he's doing these things in real action it's another story. And it's only been a few days of camp. Plenty of time for Foster to get in a groove and show up in the preseason games. Edited July 28, 2019 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 minute ago, MJS said: Maybe he was talking about two years ago with some of the trades like Sammy Watkins or something, but Watkins hasn't done anything and we made the playoffs that year. It's got to be McCarron he's talking about, which is silly be he hasn't played, but maybe the insinuation is that he would have done better than Peterman. Well I mean it would of been hard to be worse though for some reason Peterman has taken McCarron's job on two teams at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think the point is, "practice the way you're gonna play". To sell that in a game, Allen needs to be able to be looking elsewhere then turn his eyes at the last moment and hit Beasley. He's not there yet which is fine, but it doesn't mean it's not something to note and work on. What they actually want is for him to recognize nickle corner in man and zone outside. That's the point of that drill. I can guarantee Daboll does not want Josh looking at a crossing route and then turning his entire body to hit the out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Well I mean it would of been hard to be worse though for some reason Peterman has taken McCarron's job on two teams at this point. Wow! That’s right. I didn’t make the connection. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Any clips of Singletary? Keep reading on a daily he making plays, but have yet seen a single clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Glenn? I’m drawing blanks on trades last year. I dont see a reason why we need to get rid of shady even if the other RBs have good camp. We have cap room. He’s a leader. Decent in passing game. I think he was talking McCarron and leaving Peterman as the starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: Tyree Jackson at TE. Has the perfect body for it, already knows the routes, and most importantly he looks exactly like a young Tony Gonzales. #TheNextTonyGonz Either him or Nick Easley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: Tyree Jackson at TE. Has the perfect body for it, already knows the routes, and most importantly he looks exactly like a young Tony Gonzales. #TheNextTonyGonz He would probably hate to make the switch, but intriguing idea considering his size, wheels, and knowledge of the game from a QB perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafromboise Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Matt Milano still looks about 15. Thats one jaked 15 year old.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Sounds like Foster came into camp expecting to start and maybe got down/frustrated/upset to see he had to earn it and McD is working to teach the young player the all important mental side of the game and commitment. The fact McD is publicly talking about it to me sends a signal they believe in the kid and working to teach him how to be a pro more than anything. People forget Foster worked hard this offseason too as he was wherever Josh was working out with him this offseason. I think Foster is going to be a big part of this offense still and McD is focused on getting this kid in position to teach his potential. John brown and Cole are the perfect Vets to be around for him too in that WR room Exactly... that’s even a better reason than the one I came up with as to why his body language is the way it is... I swear u can’t win with Bills fans sometimes... Almost to the point where they WANT to be depressed cuz they’re so used to it... Some are so quick to get rid of the best running back we’ve had since Freddy and now they’re losing their mind over Fosters body language and dropped passes in “practice”... Like we said, the same people are forgetting that this is the SAME person who stayed with Allen in the offseason to get better smh... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Sounds like Foster came into camp expecting to start and maybe got down/frustrated/upset to see he had to earn it and McD is working to teach the young player the all important mental side of the game and commitment. The fact McD is publicly talking about it to me sends a signal they believe in the kid and working to teach him how to be a pro more than anything. People forget Foster worked hard this offseason too as he was wherever Josh was working out with him this offseason. I think Foster is going to be a big part of this offense still and McD is focused on getting this kid in position to teach his potential. John brown and Cole are the perfect Vets to be around for him too in that WR room You could be absolutely correct. It also could have a lot to do with Brown being even better than expected at route running. I know many people thought it would be Brown at 1 WR and Foster at the other both running a bunch of go routes. I think Brown has shown versatility and both horizontal and vertical speed and they are using that. These routes are not as good for Foster and he is struggling. Late last year he was good on go routes and deep crossing and out routes, but seemed to struggle with other route combos. I think they want to get his attention and get him to “evolve” into a more complete WR. He needs to learn and get better at other routes and now is the time. Knock him down a peg and rebuild his confidence throughout camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdand12 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Oh I knew it was too good to last. CUT!! . Ball was way behind John Brown guy is just that fast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said: Or as some ray of sunshine who hates TC but goes anyway would say Allen was indecisive and the defense was laying off. The language of the tweet was a bit muddy. "Late in his progression" could mean Josh Allen was slow making his reads or (more likely) It was his third or fourth read rather than his first or second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, TigerJ said: The language of the tweet was a bit muddy. "Late in his progression" could mean Josh Allen was slow making his reads or (more likely) It was his third or fourth read rather than his first or second. ?I too read it like 3rd or later read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WideNine Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: . Ball was way behind John Brown guy is just that fast Outrunning an Allen pass... now that is some serious speed. Allen will adjust to it, as he did with Foster last season, then defenses better keep a few guys really deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: A fair take, but it's also worth noting that there's still work to be done. I’m not sure it matters for Beasley. I see him primarily as a man beater in the short area. Only people reading the QB eyes in man are robbers or single high safeties. I don’t think either are making a play on that ball. Lastly if it’s an option route doesn’t he need to read the cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 I think Oliver will be an entrenched starter by the end of camp. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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