Mark Vader Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 11-8-19 https://midway.movie/trailer Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 i hope they get it right and don't turn it into some stupid love story to attract women, as they did doing Pearl Harbor. I really hope they give significant consideration to the points made in "Shattered Sword," which refutes a lot of the silly nonsense , and tells the true story from the Japanese tactical doctrine and procedural practices. As a student of the battle of Midway, I can't wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, sherpa said: i hope they get it right and don't turn it into some stupid love story to attract women, as they did doing Pearl Harbor. I really hope they give significant consideration to the points made in "Shattered Sword," which refutes a lot of the silly nonsense , and tells the true story from the Japanese tactical doctrine and procedural practices. As a student of the battle of Midway, I can't wait. I wouldn't get my hopes too high. Roland Emmerich is involved and the cast including Woody Harrelson could cut either way. The bar is not set too high when looking at the Charlton Heston pic from 1976. Heston was a little over the top but a fair number of actors were workman-like including Henry Fonda, Martin Balsam, and Hal Holbrook. The special effects were nothing special but were not over presented in light of most of the ships and planes involved no longer existed by 1976. If CGI does not grate on you too bad then you won't mind seeing ships such as the USS Yorktown sail again and since they are going back to Dec 7, 1941 maybe we will see ships like the USS Lexington for Coral Sea action. 20th Century Fox spent liberally on Tora Tora Tora but Universal I believe was much tighter for their Midway. I don't know if the history will be set straight given what has come out in the last few decades. We shall see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: 20th Century Fox spent liberally on Tora Tora Tora That's for sure! It's been said that more money and effort went into the production than the Japanese spent on the actual attack. On a side note, I got to visit Pearl Harbor a few weeks ago and it was outstanding. A little bit of a bummer not getting on the Arizona Memorial (closed til Fall for repairs) but the new Aviation Museum was amazing, as was standing on the surrender deck of the Missouri battleship, and even battling claustrophobia while crouching through the Bowfin submarine tour. I highly recommend a day there to learn, pay respect, and also have fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Sign me up. Looks fun, don't know if it looks "good." Emmerich scares me as a director. Wife and I have a "one for you, one for me" movie going policy. This will definitely be a "one for me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said: That's for sure! It's been said that more money and effort went into the production than the Japanese spent on the actual attack. On a side note, I got to visit Pearl Harbor a few weeks ago and it was outstanding. A little bit of a bummer not getting on the Arizona Memorial (closed til Fall for repairs) but the new Aviation Museum was amazing, as was standing on the surrender deck of the Missouri battleship, and even battling claustrophobia while crouching through the Bowfin submarine tour. I highly recommend a day there to learn, pay respect, and also have fun. The Arizona Memorial I believe was hit by a tug, etc... Some time ago. Is that the repairs? If so, still fixing! 14 minutes ago, stony said: Sign me up. Looks fun, don't know if it looks "good." Emmerich scares me as a director. Wife and I have a "one for you, one for me" movie going policy. This will definitely be a "one for me." LoL... I still remember a few of my parents. My father would pick The Deer Hunter and First Blood (Rambo)... LoL... Real dousy movies that my mother surely loved! LMAO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I was excited until I saw it was Roland Emmerich. Not a fan. He found a way to ruin Godzilla I certainly don’t trust him to tell the story of midway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: The Arizona Memorial I believe was hit by a tug, etc... Some time ago. Is that the repairs? If so, still fixing! from the NPS web site: Quote The USS Arizona Memorial is closed to visitation due to a failure of the anchoring system for its dock. The anchor system failure occurred due to natural variables related to sediment in Pearl Harbor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandBillsFan Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I love WW2 history but unfortunately this reminds me of the Pearl Harbor abomination. Too many piney shots of families and women. It also stars Mandy Moore which is concerning. Additionally, the trailer promotes it as being from the same director as Independence Day. Although Independence Day was a decent movie for me in my teens it does not hold up well except for nostalgic purposes. The director, Roland Emmerich, has a slew of bombs under his belt. For example, 2012, 10,000 BC, The Patriot, Godzilla.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Tell the story the way it should be told 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, stony said: Sign me up. Looks fun, don't know if it looks "good." Emmerich scares me as a director. Wife and I have a "one for you, one for me" movie going policy. This will definitely be a "one for me." 2 hours ago, NobesBLO13 said: I was excited until I saw it was Roland Emmerich. Not a fan. He found a way to ruin Godzilla I certainly don’t trust him to tell the story of midway. 47 minutes ago, IslandBillsFan said: I love WW2 history but unfortunately this reminds me of the Pearl Harbor abomination. Too many piney shots of families and women. It also stars Mandy Moore which is concerning. Additionally, the trailer promotes it as being from the same director as Independence Day. Although Independence Day was a decent movie for me in my teens it does not hold up well except for nostalgic purposes. The director, Roland Emmerich, has a slew of bombs under his belt. For example, 2012, 10,000 BC, The Patriot, Godzilla.... Yes, Roland Emmerich does make me very nervous about this movie. Not that thrilled about Mandy Moore either, but Patrick Wilson, Aaron Eckhart & Woody Harrelson are positive signs. I was excited when I had heard that they were making this movie, but knowing who the director is, gives me pause. Although, I may still end up seeing it. Please, be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 hours ago, sherpa said: i hope they get it right and don't turn it into some stupid love story to attract women, as they did doing Pearl Harbor. I really hope they give significant consideration to the points made in "Shattered Sword," which refutes a lot of the silly nonsense , and tells the true story from the Japanese tactical doctrine and procedural practices. As a student of the battle of Midway, I can't wait. I watched this for the first time last week and at some point later into it I hit the jettison button... told the wife this is just like titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: Not that thrilled about Mandy Moore either But Silver N Red must be pumped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, T&C said: I watched this for the first time last week and at some point later into it I hit the jettison button... told the wife this is just like titanic. Except "Titanic" was a good movie. Overrated, but good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 For a Western New York connection, and we have talked about it before, LCDR Wade McClusky, from Buffalo, was credited by ADM Nimitz with deciding the fate of the US carrier task force. In short, though low on fuel, McClusky's decision to follow a Japanese destroyer steaming at flank speed led his formation to the Japanese carriers. He was serving as Enterprise's Air Wing Commander at the time. To this day, the Navy's award for the most outstanding attack squadron is named after him. Lesser known trivia about Midway. It was claimed as a US possession in 1867 by the USS Lackawanna. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 11 hours ago, IslandBillsFan said: The Patriot You didn't like The Patriot? I thought it was fantastic -- although I also wasn't just looking for 100% Revolutionary War accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 11 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Tell the story the way it should be told Are you saying Jeff Goldblum didn't sneak on a Japanese carrier and give it a computer virus? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 13 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: I still remember a few of my parents. How many parents did you have? The standard number is 2 which is less than a few. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 sorry @Mark Vader but you can't avoid the "love story angle". These guys have to fight for someone they love 23 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: How many parents did you have? The standard number is 2 which is less than a few. well, you see, at an ***** it's hard to tell how many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 15 hours ago, RochesterRob said: The bar is not set too high when looking at the Charlton Heston pic from 1976. That could apply to pretty much every movie Heston made.....except "Soylent Green".? He just wasn't that good of an actor imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: That could apply to pretty much every movie Heston made.....except "Soylent Green".? He just wasn't that good of an actor imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Yeah, that was one of his better movies. I've watched it many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This movie has potential. Waiting anxiously for the first Top Gun II trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: That could apply to pretty much every movie Heston made.....except "Soylent Green".? He just wasn't that good of an actor imo. Heston was not good in this but I chalk that up to him and the director not knowing how to work the character. I always thought that Heston had some talent. Edward Albert was the worst for me. The special effects were no more than adequate and those familiar with the ships involved could plainly see all the "stand-ins" that distracted from the battle. I am not sure if actors salaries were a related issue. Not all bad as you got to see plenty of actors in this before they became stars such as Tom Selleck and you will miss him if you blink your eyes Gary Busey. An obvious dearth of Japanese-American actors as just about every Japanese-American in Hollywood was in this except for George Takei. It has been rumored that Takei was considered but not offered a part as his Star Trek background was thought to be distracting. Edited July 2, 2019 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: How many parents did you have? The standard number is 2 which is less than a few. Uh... Not today... LoL... I was a modern family before there were modern families. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 hours ago, I am the egg man said: That could apply to pretty much every movie Heston made.....except "Soylent Green".? He just wasn't that good of an actor imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 16 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Yes, Roland Emmerich does make me very nervous about this movie. Not that thrilled about Mandy Moore either, but Patrick Wilson, Aaron Eckhart & Woody Harrelson are positive signs. I was excited when I had heard that they were making this movie, but knowing who the director is, gives me pause. Although, I may still end up seeing it. Please, be good. Yeah Harrelson is one of my favorites it will probably be the reason I see it. I really really really want this to be good. I just don’t understand why they give it to Emmerich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: sorry @Mark Vader but you can't avoid the "love story angle". These guys have to fight for someone they love well, you see, at an ***** it's hard to tell how many I'm fine with that, I just want the movie to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, Mark Vader said: I'm fine with that, I just want the movie to be good. I can live with crappy actors if the plot is good and there is either action or hot babes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, NobesBLO13 said: Yeah Harrelson is one of my favorites it will probably be the reason I see it. I really really really want this to be good. I just don’t understand why they give it to Emmerich. Exactly. That's what makes me nervous. Hoping it all works out right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 At least Ben Aflicted isn’t in it. I don’t have a good feeling but I hope it’s decent. 6 months after Pear, we evened the score and turned the tide. Thanks in large part to deciphering Japanese codes. ‘Midway is low on drinking water’ -GREAT STUFF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandBillsFan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 6:27 AM, eball said: You didn't like The Patriot? I thought it was fantastic -- although I also wasn't just looking for 100% Revolutionary War accuracy. Not really. I thought it was a bit of a BraveHeart set in a different time period rip off. It was definitely better than some of Emmerich's other work. I haven't watched the Patriot in years. Maybe I'll watch it again someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 This movie looks to be absolutely terrible. Reminds me of "Pearl Harbor" from some years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 6:27 AM, eball said: You didn't like The Patriot? I thought it was fantastic -- although I also wasn't just looking for 100% Revolutionary War accuracy. Not enough scenes at the airports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:53 PM, Mark Vader said: 11-8-19 https://midway.movie/trailer Thoughts? Seven. That's how many factual errors I counted in the trailer. I think I hate it. On 7/1/2019 at 4:37 PM, RochesterRob said: I wouldn't get my hopes too high. Roland Emmerich is involved and the cast including Woody Harrelson could cut either way. The bar is not set too high when looking at the Charlton Heston pic from 1976. Heston was a little over the top but a fair number of actors were workman-like including Henry Fonda, Martin Balsam, and Hal Holbrook. The special effects were nothing special but were not over presented in light of most of the ships and planes involved no longer existed by 1976. If CGI does not grate on you too bad then you won't mind seeing ships such as the USS Yorktown sail again and since they are going back to Dec 7, 1941 maybe we will see ships like the USS Lexington for Coral Sea action. 20th Century Fox spent liberally on Tora Tora Tora but Universal I believe was much tighter for their Midway. I don't know if the history will be set straight given what has come out in the last few decades. We shall see. That sociopath Emmerich is involved? Now I know I hate it. 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: This movie looks to be absolutely terrible. Reminds me of "Pearl Harbor" from some years ago. I didn't see the Japanese bombing any Spruance-class destroyers in this one. So it's already better than Pearl Harbor. Seriously, ***** Pearl Harbor. ***** it hard. I give that movie five out of five penguins, and may God have mercy on its soul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Should have just said Mandy Moore was in it... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, DC Tom said: Seven. That's how many factual errors I counted in the trailer. I think I hate it. That sociopath Emmerich is involved? Now I know I hate it. I didn't see the Japanese bombing any Spruance-class destroyers in this one. So it's already better than Pearl Harbor. Seriously, ***** Pearl Harbor. ***** it hard. I give that movie five out of five penguins, and may God have mercy on its soul. Well then, let's hope that "1917" will be a war movie to look forward to this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 6:34 PM, John from Riverside said: Tell the story the way it should be told https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DBd8_vO5zrjo&ved=2ahUKEwiqrLz88Z7jAhULj54KHRAiAlcQwqsBMAB6BAgGEAU&usg=AOvVaw2uq9uT3flx37hcS4iVrlCF Midway, from the Japanes perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 5:10 AM, sherpa said: For a Western New York connection, and we have talked about it before, LCDR Wade McClusky, from Buffalo, was credited by ADM Nimitz with deciding the fate of the US carrier task force. In short, though low on fuel, McClusky's decision to follow a Japanese destroyer steaming at flank speed led his formation to the Japanese carriers. He was serving as Enterprise's Air Wing Commander at the time. To this day, the Navy's award for the most outstanding attack squadron is named after him. Lesser known trivia about Midway. It was claimed as a US possession in 1867 by the USS Lackawanna. I've never looked to see if there was a McClusky Street, a McClusky Park or a McClusky statue in Buffalo. He certainly earned it. As to the movie trailer..meh..it doesn't need an Emmerlich trying to create more action. Taking down 4 carriers in a day is action enough. I'm boring...I've always appreciated something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w30FkSXyTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 hours ago, CookieG said: I've never looked to see if there was a McClusky Street, a McClusky Park or a McClusky statue in Buffalo. He certainly earned it. The Us Navy did commission the USS McClusky, which served in the Pacific Fleet for years until it was ultimately used as a target and sunk as part of an exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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