The Mueller Report. BREAKING NEWS: AG’s Summary Report Released. NO COLLUSION!

[Nanker]

There is evidence on the obstruction front that Trump did indeed tell some subordinates to do things that could be construed as obstruction.

However, none of them followed through on what he ordered them to do.

 

Hey you. Go rob a bank and give me the money. 

You. I'm not gonna do that.

 

Was a crime committed? 

[BeginnersMind]

1 hour ago, Nanker said:

There is evidence on the obstruction front that Trump did indeed tell some subordinates to do things that could be construed as obstruction.

However, none of them followed through on what he ordered them to do.

 

Hey you. Go rob a bank and give me the money. 

You. I'm not gonna do that.

 

Was a crime committed? 

 

The obstruction line was fine. In a criminal prosecution against Joe Blow, that question would have gone to a grand jury. The prima facie elements of the crime were all present according to Mueller. But he couldn’t prosecute the president while he’s sitting, as he notes and was so told, so he kicked that to Barr and/or after Trump leaves office. 

 

Trump won the narrative game and most people here follow that, but Mueller did not paint him flatteringly on obstruction at all. He didn't lie and hinder the investigation. He only actively engaged in misleading country. Not that people would hold him to a standard that would preclude him from doing that. 

 

I’m glad Barr is not pressing charges for the sake of ‘merica but Trump in some ways avoided some real trouble almost by accident. He should feel luckier more than clean. 

 

And I can’t say this enough times. It is great that no American colluded according to this. 

Edited April 18, 2019 by BeginnersMind

[row_33]

33 minutes ago, Nanker said:

There is evidence on the obstruction front that Trump did indeed tell some subordinates to do things that could be construed as obstruction.

However, none of them followed through on what he ordered them to do.

 

Hey you. Go rob a bank and give me the money. 

You. I'm not gonna do that.

 

Was a crime committed? 

 

if a Republican, yes

 

[Foxx]

37 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

So when is the next presidential assassination attempt scheduled?

funny but not.

[Foxx]

one of @Tiberius heroes.

 

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1118693733594218501

 

[Foxx]

ouch!

https://twitter.com/buzzman888/status/1118967692378161153

 

[Deranged Rhino]

I stood around waiting for Schiff for an hour... then had to run to a meeting. 

 

He walked out as I was pulling away. 

 

CURSES! 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Because it's BAIT. 

 

Because Mueller was never working to "get" Trump, but to expose the bad actors (by letting them expose themselves while their crimes were logged by parallel investigations). 

 

Now he's daring them to try impeachment. It won't go the way they want it to go though... 

[DC Tom]

17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I stood around waiting for Schiff for an hour... then had to run to a meeting. 

 

He walked out as I was pulling away. 

 

CURSES! 

 

I'm sure you can just run any of a number of his previous press appearances.  His tune never changes.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Hedge]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I stood around waiting for Schiff for an hour... then had to run to a meeting. 

 

He walked out as I was pulling away. 

 

CURSES! 

 

Watching a replay of it now. Schiff saying what you would expect.

 

The video is here.

 

In response to a question about Kellyanne Conway: "this is someone who has invented alternate facts and apparently she has continued to cling to her alternate facts" ?

?

?

?

 

Edited April 18, 2019 by Hedge

[Foxx]

14 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

Watching a replay of it now. Schiff saying what you would expect.

 

The video is here.

 

In response to a question about Kellyanne Conway: "this is someone who has invented alternate facts and apparently she has continued to cling to her alternate facts" ?

?

?

?

 

so... the goal posts have now moved from criminality to condemnation. great. good job Adam, time for you to leave the stage now. 

 

what a joke. 'clearly, these are not traits the american people desire in their President'. regardless, Pencilneck, that is not a matter for investigation. 

Edited April 18, 2019 by Foxx

[BeginnersMind]

The president lied, directed others to lie and mislead, attempted to block the investigation, and only his role as president stopped an obstruction charge. 

 

But PPP focuses on so much winning. 

 

Don’t stop believing the fairy tale kids. This was not a good report for Trump. He’s just convinced you it is. 

[Prickly Pete]

Just now, BeginnersMind said:

The president lied, directed others to lie and mislead, attempted to block the investigation, and only his role as president stopped an obstruction charge. 

 

But PPP focuses on so much winning. 

 

Don’t stop believing the fairy tale kids. This was not a good report for Trump. He’s just convinced you it is. 

 

You're going to lose.

[BeginnersMind]

1 minute ago, OJ Tom said:

 

You're going to lose.

 

Lose what? 

[Bray Wyatt]

3 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

The president lied, directed others to lie and mislead, attempted to block the investigation, and only his role as president stopped an obstruction charge. 

 

But PPP focuses on so much winning. 

 

Don’t stop believing the fairy tale kids. This was not a good report for Trump. He’s just convinced you it is. 

 

This sounds angry, are you ok?

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

The president lied, directed others to lie and mislead, attempted to block the investigation, and only his role as president stopped an obstruction charge. 

 

But PPP focuses on so much winning. 

 

Don’t stop believing the fairy tale kids. This was not a good report for Trump. He’s just convinced you it is. 

 

The only thing that matters is whether Mueller was able to thoroughly investigate Trump-Russia collusion.  If he was, and he never indicated he wasn't, and found no evidence of it, that's it.  End of story.

[Golden Goat]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The only thing that matters is whether Mueller was able to thoroughly investigate Trump-Russia collusion.  If he was, and he never indicated he wasn't, and found no evidence of it, that's it.  End of story.

Now about those FISA warrants...

[bilzfancy]

12 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

The president lied, directed others to lie and mislead, attempted to block the investigation, and only his role as president stopped an obstruction charge. 

 

But PPP focuses on so much winning. 

 

Don’t stop believing the fairy tale kids. This was not a good report for Trump. He’s just convinced you it is. 

How can there be obstruction when there was no crime? How can there be obstruction when Trump and the WH gave the investigators everything they asked for, interviewed everyone they wanted to?

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

Now about those FISA warrants...

 

Again I'm talking about the investigation into whether Trump colluded with Russia.  The hoax that led up to this is next on the docket.

[/dev/null]

10 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

How can there be obstruction when there was no crime? How can there be obstruction when Trump and the WH gave the investigators everything they asked for, interviewed everyone they wanted to?

 

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, Foxx said:

one of @Tiberius heroes.

 

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1118693733594218501

 

 

Holy ***** dude was a fat *****.  That's all I got. Carry on kids.  

[GG]

23 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Holy ***** dude was a fat *****.  That's all I got. Carry on kids.  

Yes he was.  Was bigger when you saw him in person.  

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said:

The president lied, directed others to lie and mislead, attempted to block the investigation, and only his role as president stopped an obstruction charge. 

 

But PPP focuses on so much winning. 

 

Don’t stop believing the fairy tale kids. This was not a good report for Trump. He’s just convinced you it is. 

 

And the report also said he cooperated completely.  

 

Huh.  Go figure.  

[Buffalo_Gal]

**snort**
 

 

[BeginnersMind]

2 hours ago, bilzfancy said:

How can there be obstruction when there was no crime?

 

Read the report. Read the statute. Your question shows a lack of legal understanding. 

 

2 hours ago, bilzfancy said:

How can there be obstruction when Trump and the WH gave the investigators everything they asked for, interviewed everyone they wanted to?

 

See above and read the report. 

2 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

This sounds angry, are you ok?

 

Sure. Trump has been pretty effective on many fronts but is a huge disappointment in character and judgment, as this report shows. 

 

And im much more concerned about the winner in all this: Russia. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

3 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Read the report. Read the statute. Your question shows a lack of legal understanding. 

 

 

See above and read the report. 

 

Sure. Trump has been pretty effective on many fronts but is a huge disappointment in character and judgment, as this report shows. 

 

And im much more concerned about the winner in all this: Russia. 

I stick up for you a lot, but I swear ... sometimes you are just trollin'. There can be no other explanation. 

[njbuff]

3 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Read the report. Read the statute. Your question shows a lack of legal understanding. 

 

 

See above and read the report. 

 

Sure. Trump has been pretty effective on many fronts but is a huge disappointment in character and judgment, as this report shows. 

 

And im much more concerned about the winner in all this: Russia. 

 

That's on the Democrats, who started a phony investigation ONLY because their lovechild Killary Clinot lost in a fair and square election.

 

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Time for the Dumbs to put up a candidate that is worth while to beat Trump which won't happen.

 

Tulsi Gabbard is the only Democrat who is sane, but she will NEVER get the nomination because she is exactly that......... SANE.

[Nanker]

BM please go rob a store and make sure you get a six pack of Mad Dog 4040. I’ll wait for you in the parking lot.  We’ll have a good time. 

 

You going to do it?

 

No?

 

Did I commit a crime?

 

Asking for a friend. 

Edited April 19, 2019 by Nanker

[LB3]

BM totally isn't a shill. He's definitely middle of the road, all about the facts guy. He's totally not melting down. He's absolutely not sounding like Rachel Maddow now.

[BeginnersMind]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I stick up for you a lot, but I swear ... sometimes you are just trollin'. There can be no other explanation. 

 

You can obstruct without guilt guilt of an underlying crime. This is not a deep legal concept. 

 

If I feel like trolling, you’ll know it. I’m just saddened by the tolerance for POTUS’s behavior very clearly delineated in this report. The blind eye most here turn to it is  willful. 

Just now, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:

BM totally isn't a shill. He's definitely middle of the road, all about the facts guy. He's totally not melting down. He's absolutely not sounding like Rachel Maddow now.

 

Remember when I said there was collusion? Yeah. Me either. But I do remember saying the opposite over and over again. 

 

Back to your pod Borg. 

[snafu]

Hey y'all, I was driving from Long Island to Buffalo all day.  Did anything big happen today that I should know about?

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

9 minutes ago, snafu said:

Hey y'all, I was driving from Long Island to Buffalo all day.  Did anything big happen today that I should know about?

 

 

 

 

It was a pretty quiet day. ? Holy Week and all.

[njbuff]

The Demonrats reaction is quite predictable and quite laughable.

 

Nothing but a bunch of mummies with no brains whatsoever. 

 

Like I said, is there anything more predictable.

[snafu]

4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

I don't like this switching from third person to first person. He should be more like Ricky Henderson and be consistent. 

 

 

[4merper4mer]

2 hours ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Read the report. Read the statute. Your question shows a lack of legal understanding. 

 

 

See above and read the report. 

 

Sure. Trump has been pretty effective on many fronts but is a huge disappointment in character and judgment, as this report shows. 

 

And im much more concerned about the winner in all this: Russia. 

The law states republicans must BOHICA when Hillary declares it to be so.

[Doc Brown]

This is probably the most accurate take with what I've seen in the report so far.  Pretty much every statement or tweet by Trump would make a normal person seem guilty as hell, but Trump's not a normal person.

 

 

[DC Tom]

2 hours ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Read the report. Read the statute. Your question shows a lack of legal understanding. 

 

 

And where'd you get your law degree?

 

Don't answer - it's a rhetorical question.  If you answer it, I might be forced to consider exerting the effort to think about ignoring you, and I don't want to waste even that much time on you.

[Doc]

Embarrassing and immoral?  That cuts both ways.

[Deranged Rhino]

17 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

This is probably the most accurate take with what I've seen in the report so far.  Pretty much every statement or tweet by Trump would make a normal person seem guilty as hell, but Trump's not a normal person.

 

 

 

Or, every statement and tweet can be understood as a man (w an ego and narcissism issues) who knew he was innocent loudly proclaiming so against (almost literally) every major news outlet who were not only accusing him of crimes he knew he didn't commit - but saying he did them.