eball Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He's very accurate. And thorough. You can count on jw to make sure his schitt is straight before he reports it. He scoffs at the "me first" crowd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Not surprising at all. It was always a joke that he thought he'd get 15+ a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: Not surprising at all. It was always a joke that he thought he'd get 15+ a year. I'd push in at 14-15 if I were Beane for 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I'd push in at 14-15 if I were Beane for 4 years Oof... That's hard for me to like. I don't love his attitude (although I didn't so much mind the holdout), I question his effectiveness after a year off, and I don't like how many touches he had last year. I guess I would rather spend that on Rodger Saffold and then draft Devin Singletary in the third round of the draft... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I'd push in at 14-15 if I were Beane for 4 years That’s atill a lot but I could live with $14ish That talk of $17-20M was crazy though. No way I’d want to see the Bills pay that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Good. He overplayed his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Yep longer it plays out more it smells like Bell overplayed his hand last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I'd push in at 14-15 if I were Beane for 4 years 4 yr 60 45 guaranteed. Basically 3 year 15 mil guaranteed. Not terrible. Trade McCoy, cut Ivory and you paid for half of the first year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Oof... That's hard for me to like. I don't love his attitude (although I didn't so much mind the holdout), I question his effectiveness after a year off, and I don't like how many touches he had last year. I guess I would rather spend that on Rodger Saffold and then draft Devin Singletary in the third round of the draft... He's 27 and that get's him to 31. The touches I get, he isn't going to lose effectiveness unless he ballooned while out of football which is a possibility. 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: That’s atill a lot but I could live with $14ish That talk of $17-20M was crazy though. No way I’d want to see the Bills pay that much. It's $1 million. I would push it enough to either seal it or F the Jets 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: 4 yr 60 45 guaranteed. Basically 3 year 15 mil guaranteed. Not terrible. Trade McCoy, cut Ivory and you paid for half of the first year. That's what I am feeling...and get 3 years younger at the position. Also we still aren't paying Allen at that point either, comes off the books just in time Edited March 12, 2019 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: He's 27 and that get's him to 31. The touches I get, he isn't going to lose effectiveness unless he ballooned while out of football which is a possibility. Age doesn't bother me that much- just his heavy load as a Steeler. I think the biggest concern with the year off is degeneration of football muscle. Some of that can be bought back with hard work, but the reality of it is that most of these guys have been using their body for this sport their entire adult life. All the little muscles and tendons are used to this specific job and this specific workload. Now, after a year of atrophy (especially if he was really up to 260, like the rumors say) and you have to wonder about the ACL's and the Achillies' and the Hamstrings. It's just something to worry about and the problem is that it's not really testable... (and the flip side could be that he comes back better than ever and well rested, who knows.) Also an important thing to think about is that he's been off NFL radar for a year... who knows what injuries (a torn pec while lifting? Strained hamstring while running?) he might have had- or the other side of that - drugs and alcohol. It's not a deal breaker per se, just makes me hesitant before overpaying. Edited March 12, 2019 by whatdrought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I'd push in at 14-15 if I were Beane for 4 years Yep. I'd say frontload the heck out of it to bury the money in this year / next year, but I also know how these things work and in year 3 he'll say "Why am I only making $8 mil, rip that up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Kirwan just said on Sirius he'll be a Jet by their first break - he even broke down contract terms. Guess we'll know soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Heitz said: Kirwan just said on Sirius he'll be a Jet by their first break - he even broke down contract terms. Guess we'll know soon... And then we can watch @100DollarBills go into complete emotional meltdown. Get ya popcorn ready! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just becuase everyone is monitoring this thread: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: And then we can watch @100DollarBills go into complete emotional meltdown. Get ya popcorn ready! It is what it is. I get to have fun watching Gore gain 2 yards per carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Buffalo has to spend like 65 plus mil to reach its 3 year minimum for the cap. So they probably have 1 big contract left. I would take a look at Shane Ray. He had 8 sacks in 2016 but completely fell of the last two seasons. Give him a 1 year prove it deal. Edited March 12, 2019 by NewEraBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Reed83HOF said: Just becuase everyone is monitoring this thread: Jerry Hughes is happy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, 100DollarBills said: It is what it is. I get to have fun watching Gore gain 2 yards per carry. Lol you’re out of control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said: It is what it is. I get to have fun watching Gore gain 2 yards per carry. Just like last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said: It is what it is. I get to have fun watching Gore gain 2 yards per carry. what was his ypc last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, thebandit27 said: Just like last year The Bills way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Starting to think we have a troll on our hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFan2313 said: Starting to think we have a troll on our hands Ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, BillsFan2313 said: Starting to think we have a troll on our hands No, that’s just the way it seems when you experience people with standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, 100DollarBills said: The Bills way. Yep...I mean, who would want a RB that averaged 4.5 YPC for a team with a banged up OL last year? Of course, maybe his 4.5 YPC last year didn't really happen...I feel like I read somewhere that the memory can play tricks on you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Would be amazing if the Steelers swooped in and signed him... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Would be amazing if the Steelers swooped in and signed him... I'd have to migrate over to a Jets board in that circumstance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thebandit27 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Would be amazing if the Steelers swooped in and signed him... Imagine if he doesn't get PAID...ya think he'd file a collusion case against the owners? Something along the lines of "don't pay this guy; he circumvented the tag system"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Clever, but I still think Sharp is a bag of female erotic implements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said: No, that’s just the way it seems when you experience people with standards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: Starting to think we have a troll on our hands And not a very good one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Nanker said: Whose account is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Whose account is that? Antonio Bryant. The tweet is almost 4hrs old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 So if Ingram is going to Baltimore, they're out. Who is left? The Jets, Packers, Texans, and Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Imagine if he doesn't get PAID...ya think he'd file a collusion case against the owners? Something along the lines of "don't pay this guy; he circumvented the tag system"... He would have a difficult time proving that, there are teams out there making legitimate offers and interest in him, they just arent to him and his agents high level. Just now, TOboy said: So if Ingram is going to Baltimore, they're out. Who is left? The Jets, Packers, Texans, and Bills? I thought Packers were out too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Whose account is that? Antonio Bryant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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