YoloinOhio Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Josh Allen just got in I hope he was nicer than Ziggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I hope he was nicer than Ziggy Polite dude. He had his best on but before the money a yes sir no sir guy. Lost points for making me feel old 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Polite dude. He had his best on but before the money a yes sir no sir guy. Lost points for making me feel old  Jachai Polite was there as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I think you can see not in order how they see the top 8 guys. You figure 2 of those earlier guys will be available. Minus Murray and Williams probable 1 and 2.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Oh no Josh Allen was polite. I'm not sure about Jacai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Breaking out the pre-draft visits by projected draft round:  1: WR, OT, DT, DE (x4), S 1-2: WR (x2), CB, S 2-3: RB, TE, C, OT, CB 3-4: TE, DE 4-5: OL, DT, DE, LB 5-6: CB 6-7: TE  A couple notes: You can tell that adding a blue chip DL prospect is a definite priority for them, considering that 20% of their visits thus far have been spent on D-linemen projected to go in the top 20 picks. It's interesting that they're spending time meeting with safeties projected to go in the first two rounds. I didn't think of it as a need, especially with two entrenched starters, but perhaps they're looking to have 3 safeties on the field more often?  I'm curious to see how they allocate their remaining 5 visits.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 It’s snowing there today for these visits! I mean - how?  its going to be 80 in Cbus today. It’s not that far away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited)     Last year both Allen and Edmunds were visits  Edit: Add Williams to the list   Edited April 12, 2019 by Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:     Last year both Allen and Edmunds were visits  Not many candidates for pick 9 on that list.  Taylor, Gary, Oliver and Sweat are the only legitimate candidates to be picked that high and likely none of them will be available at the 9th pick.  Any other player on that list would be considered a major reach at that spot. Edited April 12, 2019 by OldTimer1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Not many candidates for pick 9 on that list.  Taylor, Gary, Oliver and Sweat are the only legitimate candidates to be picked that high and likely none of them will be available at the 9th pick.  Any other player on that list would be considered a major reach at that spot. I would say Gary at 9 might be a reach, also Josh Allen is on there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I would say Gary at 9 might be a reach, also Josh Allen is on there... Allen, Sweat and Taylor unlikely to be left.  Oliver - maybe available and would for sure be the pick among that list, though I’m not completely sold on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 They’ve got to look up above and down below their natural #9 slot. They have to be prepared when they call, or when their phone rings to make a deal either going up, or moving back. Knowing what kind of athletes are available will help them with their calculus for possible trades.  Nothing out out of the ordinary here. It’s a business being run by businessmen. Finally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: I would say Gary at 9 might be a reach, also Josh Allen is on there... There are plenty of people who think Gary is a top ten pick. He is kind of a roll the dice pick in the top ten though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TigerJ said: There are plenty of people who think Gary is a top ten pick. He is kind of a roll the dice pick in the top ten though. I don't disagree, he is like a 7-12 guy to me TBH. Edited April 12, 2019 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: Not many candidates for pick 9 on that list.  Taylor, Gary, Oliver and Sweat are the only legitimate candidates to be picked that high and likely none of them will be available at the 9th pick.  Any other player on that list would be considered a major reach at that spot. Beane said that visit are done when they feel they need another look. Edited April 12, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 This reaffirms my belief they will not take a TE at 9. Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: Not many candidates for pick 9 on that list.  Taylor, Gary, Oliver and Sweat are the only legitimate candidates to be picked that high and likely none of them will be available at the 9th pick.  Any other player on that list would be considered a major reach at that spot.  Metcalf if a legitimate candidate, even though people don’t want to believe it. 14 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: This reaffirms my belief they will not take a TE at 9. Thank goodness.  You should be safe, it looks like they’re focusing on mid round TEs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 Another visitor, but doesn’t count toward the 30 so we are still at 27   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 visits left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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junior Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Breaking out the pre-draft visits by projected draft round (I posted this in another thread):  1: WR, OT, DT (x2), DE (x4), S 1-2: WR (x2), OT CB, S 2-3: RB, TE, C, OT, CB 3-4: TE, DE 4-5: OL, DT, DE, LB 5-6: CB (x2) 6-7: TE  A couple notes: You can tell that adding a blue chip DL prospect is a definite priority for them, considering that 20+% of their visits thus far have been spent on D-linemen projected to go in the top 20 picks. It's interesting that they're spending time meeting with safeties projected to go in the first two rounds. I didn't think of it as a need, especially with two entrenched starters, but perhaps they're looking to have 3 safeties on the field more often? Edited April 12, 2019 by junior12thman92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, junior12thman92 said: Breaking out the pre-draft visits by projected draft round (I posted this in another thread):  1: WR, OT, DT (x2), DE (x4), S 1-2: WR (x2), OT CB, S 2-3: RB, TE, C, OT, CB 3-4: TE, DE 4-5: OL, DT, DE, LB 5-6: CB (x2) 6-7: TE  A couple notes: You can tell that adding a blue chip DL prospect is a definite priority for them, considering that 20+% of their visits thus far have been spent on D-linemen projected to go in the top 20 picks. It's interesting that they're spending time meeting with safeties projected to go in the first two rounds. I didn't think of it as a need, especially with two entrenched starters, but perhaps they're looking to have 3 safeties on the field more often?  Poyer is coming up soon and due a big raise. When you look at cap distributions per position in this case Safety (IIRC we are right about Average), Hyde is our expensive guy and Poyer is the cheap one whose raise would push him higher than Hyde - expect to see us not resign him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:  Poyer is coming up soon and due a big raise. When you look at cap distributions per position in this case Safety (IIRC we are right about Average), Hyde is our expensive guy and Poyer is the cheap one whose raise would push him higher than Hyde - expect to see us not resign him...  I get that, but we have Poyer for two more years (this year and next), and Hyde for three more.  With a team devoid of top-tier talent at many positions (ex: DL), I'd find it surprising for them to spend a premium pick on a player who we don't need starting for another two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, junior12thman92 said:  I get that, but we have Poyer for two more years (this year and next), and Hyde for three more.  With a team devoid of top-tier talent at many positions (ex: DL), I'd find it surprising for them to spend a premium pick on a player who we don't need starting for another two years. Simply case of BPA and where the talent lies in the draft. This draft I believe was known to have good Safeties in it. Depending on skills I suppose you could use a safety as a nickel guy, run with 3 safeties as you suggested or even put someone on the trade block. If we are truly looking at BPA, this is what can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Them not bringing in Hockenson seems like a possible smokescreen. Detroit right ahead of us could use a TE.  Could be wrong. I'm not sure how I feel about Hockenson at 9 but if it did happen I'd support the decision. Getting a reliable TE for Allen is probably a smart move for his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I've often wondered how many of these visits are with players they know they won't draft, but want to build intel knowing a division rival has a good chance of picking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Regarding Safety-perhaps they would like to improve Big Nickel - the hottest trend in NFL- and why a Safety day 2 selection makes more since than a LB. It has been said that you can't have too many CBs in NFL. I say now you can't have too many Safety's. It's a position that has evolved a lot the past decade   http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000375711/article/big-nickel-package-emerging-as-nfls-hottest-defensive-trend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Darrell Henderson pleeeeeease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Based on this tweet, Miles Sanders wouldn't count as a top 30 visit either, right? Â Â 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I like that we have used 28 visits already. It is a great time to gather information on a player. Even if you don't draft them, you might acquire them down the road via FA, trade, waivers. If I recall correctly, some past Bills GMs did not use all of their allotted draft visits. And many team do not. It seems to me that Beane is organized and on top of everything. He is thrifty with FA signings, shrewd with UDFA, and had himself a very nice 1st draft: Josh Allen Tremaine Edmunds Harrison Phillips Taron Johnson Siran Neal Wyatt Teller Levi Wallace Robert Foster Ike Boettger  That is a solid group going forward and potentially a home run if Josh continues to improve. This season will be a defining one for Beane. He is dialed in for this draft IMO  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 29 Â Wouldn't he, Sanders, and Oruwariye all not count if that Penn State WR doesn't count? So based on that, we're at like 26 if I counted right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, DCOrange said:  Wouldn't he, Sanders, and Oruwariye all not count if that Penn State WR doesn't count? So based on that, we're at like 26 if I counted right. Good point - I guess it would take them off the official list.  Edited April 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Good point - I guess it would take them off the official list.  Just keep them on the official list, but remove the number for that entry (if possible). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Good point - I guess it would take them off the official list.   https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/12/report-te-noah-fant-worked-out-buffalo-bills/  Does this count?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:  https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/12/report-te-noah-fant-worked-out-buffalo-bills/  Does this count?? No, just a private workout at Iowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: No, just a private workout at Iowa  Ahhh okay. Glad he's on their radar. I think they would snag him in the second, but I don't think he's gonna make it that far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 29 Â 19 hours ago, DCOrange said: Â Wouldn't he, Sanders, and Oruwariye all not count if that Penn State WR doesn't count? So based on that, we're at like 26 if I counted right. Â Sorry if this is buried in the thread somewhere already, but why dont visits from UB/Penn St count? Proximity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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