YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Well let’s try this Steeler thing again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Nah I have always hated the Steelers line in Recent Years. Ben gets Killed behind it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Line wasn't good and you just got burned by that franchise. I wouldn't have anything to do with them other than shipping mice with the plague to the fo. Edited March 8, 2019 by Ol Dirty B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Look I was over the Steelers schtick with Whaley and Donahoe before him, just as I am over the Carolina schtick now... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well let’s try this Steeler thing again. Might be an option if they strike out elsewhere. You'd be taking on a one-year deal worth $4.9M against the cap, but he's 31 years old and coming off of 3 injury-riddled seasons. He's played in 25 of the team's last 48 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: Line wasn't good and you just got burned by that franchise. I wouldn't have anything to do with them other than shipping mice with the plague to the fo. How did Steelers burn us? They agreed with a compensation package for a WR, that WR killed the trade. So how did the Steelers burn us? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan93 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I think they are flat out releasing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 They owe him to us for free since they burned us on Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 He is 31. I'd rather have Daryl Williams or Ju'Wan James. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, MAJBobby said: How did Steelers burn us? They agreed with a compensation package for a WR, that WR killed the trade. So how did the Steelers burn us? I suppose they didn't, but it was their part of the trade that blew it up in a bad way. Granted he has been doing a lot of that. I just wouldn't want anything to do with them at this point. It doesn't take much to go to AB and know where he's willing to go and not. And not doing what he did with Buffalo. It's on AB but they bear some responsibility. I'm also just a fan. I have the luxury of that. Edited March 9, 2019 by Ol Dirty B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I suppose they didn't, but it was their part of the trade that blew it up in a bad way. Granted he has been doing a lot of that. I just wouldn't want anything to do with them at this point. It doesn't take much to go through with AB and know where he's willing to go and not. And not doing what he did with Butfalo. It's on AB but they bear some responsibility. I'm also just a fan. I have the luxury of that. Doesn't Buffalo bear some responsibility as well. I am sure they have seen and heard everything AB has done this last month. Shouldn't the FIRST statement made to Steelers be can we talk to AB and Drew and see if there is interest, then come back and talk compensation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Logic said: He is 31. I'd rather have Daryl Williams or Ju'Wan James. Why not both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: How did Steelers burn us? They agreed with a compensation package for a WR, that WR killed the trade. So how did the Steelers burn us? I've seen speculation that AB killed the trade. Nothing definitive tho. Beane said the deal just made little sense for both teams. Has it been reported that AB absolutely squashed it, or is this you just doing the math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Just now, BuffAlone said: I've seen speculation that AB killed the trade. Nothing definitive tho. Beane said the deal just made little sense for both teams. Has it been reported that AB absolutely squashed it, or is this you just doing the math? Yes it has all over the place here is just one ProFootballCentral @PFCentral 5m5 minutes ago More That trade was all but done until Buffalo heard Antonio was going to have an issue coming to Buffalo Edited March 8, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I'd rather take a hard swing at Daryl Williams who is 26 and should be entering the prime of his career. If not, find a moderate free agent or bring Mills back and take a swing in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: I've seen speculation that AB killed the trade. Nothing definitive tho. Beane said the deal just made little sense for both teams. Has it been reported that AB absolutely squashed it, or is this you just doing the math? I don’t hold the Steelers responsible one bit. I’m certain they are absolutely furious at Brown. Steelers fans hate the guy. Before all his antics he would have fetched a minimum of a first rounder in trade. Now they can’t give him away. I’m sure the Steelers wanted to get the Brown headache to Buffalo very very badly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Looks like he's a goner either way: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 They're not gonna bother with this. I'm convinced that they're putting on a full court press for Daryl Williams, which would be a fantastic pickup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: Why not both? Because the Bills don't need two right tackles, and none of the three of them are suitable left tackles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yes it has all over the place here is just one ProFootballCentral @PFCentral 5m5 minutes ago More That trade was all but done until Buffalo heard Antonio was going to have an issue coming to Buffalo Yeah, I've read them all. Reporters basically saying "I've been told" AB wouldn't go there. Just wondered if there was any report from AB/ his agent to verify. I actually read that the deal died Wednesday and that this was old news stirred up by Rap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, thebandit27 said: Looks like he's a goner either way: Well when a trade report is on you at this point in the offseason it means 1 of 3 things 1. They want you to take a paycut 2. You will be traded 3. You will be cut if not traded normally the same day the report you are being shopped happens Just now, BuffAlone said: Yeah, I've read them all. Reporters basically saying "I've been told" AB wouldn't go there. Just wondered if there was any report from AB/ his agent to verify. I actually read that the deal died Wednesday and that this was old news stirred up by Rap Sure maybe AB reporting the trade talk as fake news? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Well when a trade report is on you at this point in the offseason it means 1 of 3 things 1. They want you to take a paycut 2. You will be traded 3. You will be cut if not traded normally the same day the report you are being shopped happens Gee, ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well let’s try this Steeler thing again. Surely we can find something in the Carolina ‘discount / previously enjoyed’ bin?! (ducks, runs out of thread in fear for my life...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Surely we can find something in the Carolina ‘discount / previously enjoyed’ bin?! (ducks, runs out of thread in fear for my life...) Daryl Williams currently resides in that bin. I’d go shopping there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Well when a trade report is on you at this point in the offseason it means 1 of 3 things 1. They want you to take a paycut 2. You will be traded 3. You will be cut if not traded normally the same day the report you are being shopped happens Sure maybe AB reporting the trade talk as fake news? He don't dictate where he goes. He either takes his trade or retires. Not saying his unwillingness didn't equate to Beane's decision that the deal didn't make sense for them, just wondered if there's a report from his agent that verified that. Reporting fake news does not = I told them hell no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, DJB said: They owe him to us for free since they burned us on Brown Like others have asked, how did the steelers burn us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: He don't dictate where he goes. He either takes his trade or retires. Not saying his unwillingness didn't equate to Beane's decision that the deal didn't make sense for them, just wondered if there's a report from his agent that verified that. Reporting fake news does not = I told them hell no He just did dictate he wasn't going to the place WRs go to die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: He just did dictate he wasn't going to the place WRs go to die Sorry, you were the wrong person to ask. Thanks for your educated insight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Nah I have always hated the Steelers line in Recent Years. Ben gets Killed behind it this couldn't be more false.... ben has been sacked a grand total of 45 times over the last 2 seasons. 27 other qb's were sacked more than him in 17 and 25 other qb's were sacked more than him this last year. not to mention they have basically plugged any back they want into the lineup and gotten production. I live in "stiller" country. I can assure you all their fans agree it is one of their strongest assets. its the main reason his career has been prolonged after the absolute beating he took early on in his career.... your statement is horribly off base. Edited March 8, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Nah I have always hated the Steelers line in Recent Years. Ben gets Killed behind it Because he holds the ball too long trying to figure out who he wants to rape next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: He don't dictate where he goes. He either takes his trade or retires. Not saying his unwillingness didn't equate to Beane's decision that the deal didn't make sense for them, just wondered if there's a report from his agent that verified that. Reporting fake news does not = I told them hell no Sorry, man, it happens. The Steelers were paying AB a crap ton of money and that didn’t stop him from bailing on the last game of the season with playoffs on the line. It didn’t stop him from trashing his QB either. No team wants to give up substantial draft capital and invest big time money into a player unless they can expect effort and reasonably good behavior. IMO the Bills did the right thing bailing on the deal upon hearing AB didn’t want to come here. But they did the wrong thing by even investigating bringing a spoiled brat like him onto this team. Other than being a phenomenal player in the field (when he chooses to actually play) he’s exactly the opposite of what this regime has said they were about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Broncos with Mike Munchak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Nah I have always hated the Steelers line in Recent Years. Ben gets Killed behind it their running game does well behind it (Bell, Connor). Ben holds onto the ball too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: their running game does well behind it (Bell, Connor). Ben holds onto the ball too long. Are you sure that this is true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Age and injury issues push him down the list. If Buffalo can't swing a deal for a better guy (Trent Brown, Jawuan James, Daryl Williams) then the Bills can keep him in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: their running game does well behind it (Bell, Connor). Ben holds onto the ball too long. Or does their Run game do so well behind them because people are scared of what they have on the outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Misterbluesky Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Well let’s try this Steeler thing again. He's another Mills.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Or does their Run game do so well behind them because people are scared of what they have on the outside? Fortunately, we don't have to speculate on this, since NextGenStats keeps track of everything you two are discussing. First, no, Ben does not hold the ball long: https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw ^ Tied for the fastest average snap-to-release time in football last year Second, no, teams aren't backing away from the run against Pittsburgh, as James Conner faced 8+ in the box on almost 28% of his carries, which ranked 11th out of all qualifying backs in 2018: https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/rushing#percent-eight-defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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