Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t have a beef with the guy, but I find it kinda sickening he’s in the news still. I don't understand lol. He's been insanely quiet. Other than making money from the Nike deal (why would he turn that down), dude's been completely out of the limelight. He clearly doesn't want to play football, saying as much with his asking price. How is the AAF leaking this news out about Tebow and Kaep saying anything about Tebow and Kaep WANTING to be in the news here? We're making this news not Kaep or Tebow.. they just declined the AAF that's all this is saying. "I don't want to play football anymore. You'd have to pay me $20M if you really wanted me to play. You can't do that? Cool." When's the last time Kaepernick's made his own news, prompted by his own self and not random outlets reaching out to him like this AAF story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Let's be real, he's been out of football so long can he even still play? He couldn't even play when he was still IN football. The last days of Kaep (pre-kneel), were pretty terrible, if I remember correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Tenhigh said: He couldn't even play when he was still IN football. The last days of Kaep (pre-kneel), were pretty terrible, if I remember correctly. His QBR was about middle of the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, klos63 said: His QBR was about middle of the pack. Dude, come on. He got benched before he started kneeling, right? Who replaced him, wasn't it Blaine Gabbert? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, klos63 said: His QBR was about middle of the pack. I started him in fantasy for a few QB thirsty weeks and he was surprisingly servicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: When the league first started I wondered if he would play because if he went out and looked great, and is still unsigned by an nfl team, wouldn’t it basically lock up his whole collusion case? I didn’t consider that he’d ask to be paid like Aaron Rodgers. he kind of just killed his collusion case by asking for $20 million. He's a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, MJS said: How would any of us know this? ........attributed to Polian and AP's Wilner............ Report: Colin Kaepernick asked for $20 million to play in AAF Posted by Charean Williams on February 14, 2019, 8:23 PM EST Alliance of American Football co-founder Bill Polian said Thursday that the startup league had talked to Colin Kaepernick. Now, comes word from Barry Wilner of the Associated Press that the former 49ers quarterback asked for $20 million to consider playing. Kaepernick’s representatives did not immediately answer a message from the AP. Edited February 15, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, klos63 said: The NFL field, not AAF. there's a bit of a difference. Maybe you recognize Reid and Jenkins as being front and center like Kaep, but i'd bet the ranch that many of the haters of Kaep, who are just casual fans have no idea about the other 2. I could walk up to random people for name recognition, most will know Kaep, most won't know the other 2. Might that have something to do with the exposure and endorsements he's gotten with his non-football endeavors? And you're missing the point. It's pretty simple: if Kaep wanted back on the NFL field, he'd do whatever it takes. You can bet money that there will be a few players that show well in the AAF and get signed by NFL teams, even to practice squads. Point being that he had an avenue to get back on the football field, but he wants to do it on his terms. Does that smack of a guy that's 100% focused on football to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Gugny said: If Kaepernick really said he'd want $20 million, I look at it like this .... Say you're having a garage sale. A rusted out 1997 Dodge Caravan pulls up and a guy wearing a pair of dirty Dickies and stained wifebeater walks through your driveway. But in the garage, he notices a 2017 Harley Davidson Fat Bob and says, "How much for the Harley?" Knowing you have no intention of selling it, you say, "$20 million and it's yours." If - big if - Kaep said that, I'm certain it was taken out of context. But (gasp) he knelt. So he's a piece of garbage, right? That guy is smarter than nearly every person who posts on this site on a regular basis. I liked him before the kneeling. I liked him during the kneeling. And I still like him. That's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 He's a backup clinging to the idea that he is somehow relevant. The truth of the matter is that, should he not have started kneeling for the anthem he would likely be holding a clipboard and sulking as an unwilling backup who still thinks he's good enough to start. I'm not saying a single thing about his protest or activism, I just don't believe he has an accurate assessment of his worth as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 15 hours ago, MJS said: $20 million is hilarious. And people think he is being black balled? He's keeping himself out of the league if that's his asking price. I've suspected all along that he refused to be a backup and take a backup's sallary. I doubt he's asking for 20 mil in the NFL. I think it's just he has nothing to gain playing in this league, he can only lose. He plays good, people will say it's just a bunch of scrubs and dismiss it. He plays bad, and it's the final nail in his coffin. Someone mentioned situational awareness. He absolutely is aware of his situation. It makes no sense for him to play in this league. 10 minutes ago, White Linen said: That's right. Your name suits you perfectly. White Linen with an opinion like that is such an accurate name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Might that have something to do with the exposure and endorsements he's gotten with his non-football endeavors? And you're missing the point. It's pretty simple: if Kaep wanted back on the NFL field, he'd do whatever it takes. You can bet money that there will be a few players that show well in the AAF and get signed by NFL teams, even to practice squads. Point being that he had an avenue to get back on the football field, but he wants to do it on his terms. Does that smack of a guy that's 100% focused on football to you? I agree Kaep absolutely isn't committed to keep playing football by now, which owners are absolutely entitled to balk at in the NFL. I think the story ends there and it's so much more simple than we're making it. People are spinning some web of non-football fiction about Kaep's personal life that they know nothing about. He craves attention, he feels entitled to the NFL, he was never genuinely into his cause, he cynically intended to profit from a social cause all along, he's desperately trying to advance a social message as we speak... Good god that's a cynical way to look at things. We're literally filling in gaps of our knowledge into his personality when all we know is his football career, and camera people obsessing over him kneeling in the pre-season for 4 weeks. SO MUCH IS PSUEDO-KNOWLEDGE of a former NFL quarterback that showed a ton of promise as a young player on a SB 49ers team.. sucked after that, kneeled, played some mediocre NFL-worthy quarterback play, then got cut. He doesn't want to play anymore.. maybe he used to, but it's over. I don't see a need to paint him as a villain or a saint nor a reason to do project who he is as a person on a football forum. The headline here is: 2 quarterbacks you've heard of don't want to play in the AAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Your name suits you perfectly. White Linen with an opinion like that is such an accurate name. Much obliged Edited February 15, 2019 by White Linen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Your name suits you perfectly. White Linen with an opinion like that is such an accurate name. Hopefully yours does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 His case against the NFL is over: https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-colin-kaepernick-withdraws-collusion-case-nfl-190149703.html In a stunning move that strongly indicates a financial settlement between Colin Kaepernick and the NFL, Yahoo Sports has learned the quarterback has withdrawn his collusion complaint against the league and will take no further action in his case. While sources declined to offer specifics for Kaepernick’s decision, Yahoo Sports was told on prior occasions that Kaepernick would only withdraw his complaint if a lucrative financial settlement was reached between the quarterback and the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: His case against the NFL is over: https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-colin-kaepernick-withdraws-collusion-case-nfl-190149703.html In a stunning move that strongly indicates a financial settlement between Colin Kaepernick and the NFL, Yahoo Sports has learned the quarterback has withdrawn his collusion complaint against the league and will take no further action in his case. While sources declined to offer specifics for Kaepernick’s decision, Yahoo Sports was told on prior occasions that Kaepernick would only withdraw his complaint if a lucrative financial settlement was reached between the quarterback and the NFL. Ah... interesting stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: His case against the NFL is over: https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-colin-kaepernick-withdraws-collusion-case-nfl-190149703.html In a stunning move that strongly indicates a financial settlement between Colin Kaepernick and the NFL, Yahoo Sports has learned the quarterback has withdrawn his collusion complaint against the league and will take no further action in his case. While sources declined to offer specifics for Kaepernick’s decision, Yahoo Sports was told on prior occasions that Kaepernick would only withdraw his complaint if a lucrative financial settlement was reached between the quarterback and the NFL. Haha he settled! That’s so rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: I thought Tyrod was ? Tyrod is one of the biggest. The biggest is POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ah... interesting stuff NFL bought him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: NFL bought him off. They were going to lose in court. Collusion is a crime. It's highly litigated in the business world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: They were going to lose in court. Collusion is a crime. It's highly litigated in the business world. EXACTLY!! The NFL wouldn't settle this fast unless they knew they would likely lose. Edited February 15, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Ok, let’s calm down a bit on connecting dots that likely aren’t there. Kapernick has NOT declined a job in the NFL. The article says he hopes to play again in the NFL. Just because someone doesn’t want to play for the AAF unless heavily incentivized does not mean he has some min salary requirement to take an NFL job. And there is no evidence at all that he really declined AAF unless paid $20m, just a random report where we see random reports every day in all sports that have little substance to them. But, Kap is gonna continue to unfairly get villafied because people want to find more reasons to never like him. Kap is getting black balled, it’s not even up for debate. He is better than at least 2/3rds the QBs on NFL rosters right now, but can’t even get a workout and it has nothing to do with salary requirements. Everything you are claiming is specualtion as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 hours ago, Golden Goat said: As a Mets fan, I beg him to reconsider! Exactly...it won't take long before the fans in Syracuse realize that.The organization let Borenstien walk to the Cubs farm system and they promote glamour boy ..it's just another "Johnny football" story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Might that have something to do with the exposure and endorsements he's gotten with his non-football endeavors? And you're missing the point. It's pretty simple: if Kaep wanted back on the NFL field, he'd do whatever it takes. You can bet money that there will be a few players that show well in the AAF and get signed by NFL teams, even to practice squads. Point being that he had an avenue to get back on the football field, but he wants to do it on his terms. Does that smack of a guy that's 100% focused on football to you? Of course his exposure has a lot to do with his name recognition, but it's because or it makes him the face of this controversy. And I don't necessarily think playing in the AAF would be the best path for him, but I can be wrong. He may end up playing with ducasse as his guard... what are the chances of him having any success then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: Haha he settled! That’s so rich. he's the plaintiff lol he wants to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: EXACTLY!! The NFL wouldn't settle this fast unless they knew they would likely lose. Probably uncovered a lot of emails and stuff they don’t want public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Probably uncovered a lot of emails and stuff they don’t want public Could be, but with the final decision coming from an arbitrator in less than a month, and you got the league by the balls so to speak, why settle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: Could be, but with the final decision coming from an arbitrator in less than a month, and you got the league by the balls so to speak, why settle? Neither side wants to leave it to the arbitrator.. it's like playing chicken. Nobody wants to take it to arbitration but they're going to make each other sweat like they will up to the last possible moment. Very rarely does anybody actually think they got the other party by the balls. You settle or risk whatever small chance you think you might have at losing... a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Neither side wants to leave it to the arbitrator.. it's like playing chicken. Nobody wants to take it to arbitration but they're going to make each other sweat like they will up to the last possible moment. Very rarely does anybody actually think they got the other party by the balls. You settle or risk whatever small chance you think you might have at losing... a lot. I get all of that, just making a point to those that think Kaep is a clear winner here. I dont think thats necessarily the case. He may get money, but in this instance the NFL knows how much it hurts (I am sure when this started they had a figure) and they get to keep it all confidential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: Everything you are claiming is specualtion as well. ‘Zactly. Where, in all this foolish hoopla, will you find he simply isn’t very good? Once he was figured out defensively, he failed miserably as he couldn’t expand his game. The opposite hoopla follows Tebow. He’s loved, but he isn’t good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: I get all of that, just making a point to those that think Kaep is a clear winner here. I dont think thats necessarily the case. He may get money, but in this instance the NFL knows how much it hurts (I am sure when this started they had a figure) and they get to keep it all confidential. NFL had a lot more to lose so this was the likely outcome. The amount of money is really what we need to determine the winner haha but FWIW Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report has heard "speculation" that Kaepernick's settlement is between $60-80M $$$$$$ That's a win for Kaep if true... good god. I should move to the other thread with this I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Allen Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/25999702/alliance-american-football-tried-wooing-qb-colin-kaepernick Tebow declined and said he’s sticking with baseball This doesn't pass the smell test for me. Kap may have rejected the contract, but a $20 mil demand is not believable given the standard wage scale firmly in place. To print this without some kind of confirmation, or even a second source, is irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 So Kap wants to sign a 20M 20 year contract right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Exactly...it won't take long before the fans in Syracuse realize that.The organization let Borenstien walk to the Cubs farm system and they promote glamour boy ..it's just another "Johnny football" story. ... minus the sex, drugs and alcohol. ? But hey, at least he'll go out with a bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 In lieu of the estimates of $60-80m that Kaep just got in settling the case against the NFL, it's pretty brilliant of him to be asking for $20m a season to the AAF. He can then argue if no one pays him that he could have signed for $15m, like he was making in the NFL and then get the kind of settlement he did. If some idiot agrees to pay him that, he has even more ammo against the NFL. I guarantee that was part of his representatives equation, and it was really shrewd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dave Allen said: This doesn't pass the smell test for me. Kap may have rejected the contract, but a $20 mil demand is not believable given the standard wage scale firmly in place. To print this without some kind of confirmation, or even a second source, is irresponsible. FWIW, as Wawrow often points out, the AP is required to have more than one source before reporting anything. Barry Wilner of the AP reported it. Edited February 15, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: FWIW, as Wawrow often points out, the AP is required to have more than one source before reporting anything. Barry Wilner of the AP reported it. Yep. That is why before every time I call jw a weasel, I first look for another person who agrees that he is a weasel, which doesn't take long. jw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: he's the plaintiff lol he wants to settle. If he's trying to cash out, sure. If he's trying to serve social justice by proving the NFL is corrupt, NOPE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: If he's trying to cash out, sure. If he's trying to serve social justice by proving the NFL is corrupt, NOPE. The more money he settles for, the much stronger his case is for proving that the NFL is corrupt, which surely serves social justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: The more money he settles for, the much stronger his case is for proving that the NFL is corrupt, which surely serves social justice. How much money did he settle for, fella? He proved nothing. That's the point. Kaep snaked it as a crappy QB and got a nice chunk of change for himself. Edited February 16, 2019 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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