Kelly the Dog Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: How much money did he settle for, fella? He proved nothing. That's the point. Kaep snaked it as a crappy QB and got a nice chunk of change for himself. $60-80 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: $60-80 million dollars. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Link? https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/colin-kaepernick-eric-reid-and-nfl-settle-collusion-case/ https://nordic.businessinsider.com/nfl-teams-speculate-colin-kaepernick-to-get-60-80-million-in-collusion-case-2019-2 https://nypost.com/2019/02/15/colin-kaepernick-and-nfl-settle-collusion-case/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/colin-kaepernick-eric-reid-and-nfl-settle-collusion-case/ https://nordic.businessinsider.com/nfl-teams-speculate-colin-kaepernick-to-get-60-80-million-in-collusion-case-2019-2 https://nypost.com/2019/02/15/colin-kaepernick-and-nfl-settle-collusion-case/ "speculation" Be better. Also, LOL at 3 links that cite the same report. #journalism. Edited February 16, 2019 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: If he's trying to cash out, sure. If he's trying to serve social justice by proving the NFL is corrupt, NOPE. HE'S NOT. haha not trying to sound like an *** but getting compensated for what he believes was collusion from his employer has nothing to do with his initial prerogative of police brutality. This was absolutely about money but it also had absolutely nothing to do with exposing the NFL.. that had nothing to do with what he actually cared about to begin with. That's all I'm trying to say. Feels like we're mixing up two completely different things. He wasn't protesting the NFL and never wanted to until he felt he had a case for collusion from his employer which never really had anything to do with what he was trying to protest in the first place. He can donate some of that money for what he really cares about (I'd assume) Employment civil suit =/= protesting police brutality Different agendas Edited February 16, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: HE'S NOT. haha not trying to sound like an *** but getting compensated for what he believes was collusion from his employer has nothing to do with his initial prerogative of police brutality. This was absolutely about money but it also had absolutely nothing to do with exposing the NFL.. that had nothing to do with what he actually cared about to begin with. That's all I'm trying to say. Feels like we're mixing up two completely different things. He wasn't protesting the NFL and never wanted to until he felt he had a case for collusion from his employer which never really had anything to do with what he was trying to protest in the first place. Employment civil suit =/= police brutality Different agendas He believed the NFL blackballed him because of his protests/activism. Thought he and Eric Reid were victims. Sounds like injustice to me. Weird to not care about that with a fat check. Doesn't sound very marytr-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: He believed the NFL blackballed him because of his protests/activism. Thought he and Eric Reid were victims. Sounds like injustice to me. Weird to not care about that with a fat check. Doesn't sound very marytr-like. No he's not playing the martyr here. And that's exactly my point he cared more about his protests/activism for specific causes. Not the injustice of the NFL not employing him. That was monetary injustice. Like.. he's not fighting all social injustice to ever occur. He's not some labor rights champion. I doubt he ever particularly cared about fighting for NFL players being blackballed. Until he felt he got it. And now that he's compensated he's probably over it. His beef with society ain't about the NFL. His beef with not playing and getting paid in the NFL was a separate issue.. about getting compensated. If you're saying he sold out on that particular issue we 100% agree haha. This case was all about him getting money. He was not being a hero here. Just a regular dude.. wanting money haha. Edited February 16, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: No he's not playing the martyr here. And that's exactly my point he cared more about his protests/activism for specific causes. Not the injustice of the NFL not employing him. That was monetary injustice. Like.. he's not fighting all social injustice to ever occur. He's not some labor rights champion. I doubt he ever particularly cared about fighting for NFL players being blackballed. Until he felt he got it. And now that he's compensated he's probably over it. His beef with society ain't about the NFL. His beef with not playing and getting paid in the NFL was a separate issue.. about getting compensated. If you're saying he sold out on that particular issue we 100% agree haha. This case was all about him getting money. He was not being a hero here. Just a regular dude.. wanting money haha. Yep. Yet we have folks celebrating like OJ just got off. Makes you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: "speculation" Be better. Also, LOL at 3 links that cite the same report. #journalism. It was all over this afternoon, culled from officials of NFL teams who would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: It was all over this afternoon, culled from officials of NFL teams who would know. Oh, it was "all over" from one singular source. Who said he got it from NFL officials. Now I'm convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Yep. Yet we have folks celebrating like OJ just got off. Makes you think. Aight we good then. He was never a hero in this case. Personally I'm not celebrating but it's nice to see since I suspected he had a case this whole time. But it's just a settlement so whatever.. doesn't mean much other than we know the NFL probably had some dumb emails floating around lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Oh, it was "all over" from one singular source. Who said he got it from NFL officials. Now I'm convinced. Believe what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, klos63 said: Of course his exposure has a lot to do with his name recognition, but it's because or it makes him the face of this controversy. And I don't necessarily think playing in the AAF would be the best path for him, but I can be wrong. He may end up playing with ducasse as his guard... what are the chances of him having any success then? If he cant dominate in the AAF with a high school OL then he is surely done in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 11:45 AM, cba fan said: if $3500 is the best salary available due to market conditions(that you caused by the way) then yes he is not interested in working in that field, AT ALL. That's about as sensible as "what did she expect to happen when she wore that short skirt?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo86 said: That's about as sensible as "what did she expect to happen when she wore that short skirt?". No. No it is not. Your analogy is so far off base I refuse to offer a funny comeback in respect for those women you reference in your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, cba fan said: No. No it is not. Your analogy is so far off base I refuse to offer a funny comeback in respect for those women you reference in your comment. Why does it have to be a funny comeback? You're saying Kaepernick brought this on himself by doing something that was well within his rights. There was nothing in the NFL rulebook that said he had to stand for the national anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 7:38 PM, Kelly the Dog said: Believe what you want. Once we get justice for Jussie, my dude. It was “all over” after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On February 15, 2019 at 6:59 PM, Kelly the Dog said: The more money he settles for, the much stronger his case is for proving that the NFL is corrupt, which surely serves social justice. Say what? There's a lot of conflation going on here. More money means the NFL is even more corrupt than you thought they were? And somehow a large personal payoff to Kaepernick (bravo to him for such a successful shakedown, by the way) "surely serves social justice"?? Can you draw the straight line between those 2 dots for us please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 20 hours ago, Buffalo86 said: Why does it have to be a funny comeback? You're saying Kaepernick brought this on himself by doing something that was well within his rights. There was nothing in the NFL rulebook that said he had to stand for the national anthem. He did bring it on himself. Players have non-guaranteed contracts in the NFL, so they can be released whenever. He did something that technically wasn't against the rules, fine. The owners have every right to decide not to employ him. Like it or not, people are allowed to run their own businesses as they see fit. If someone does something that doesn't represent ownership in a way they like, they're probably going to be out. You're free to choose, but you aren't free from the consequences of your choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: You're free to choose, but you aren't free from the consequences of your choices. Absolutely. And in this case, it's held true for both Kaepernick and the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 The distraction of signing Kap and what craziness it would bring to a team, any team, would have been a monumental undoing for that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Absolutely. And in this case, it's held true for both Kaepernick and the NFL. Such is life in a litigious country. If you're a money machine like the NFL, and you take a stand on any topic relating to a player whatsoever, you'll get sued by someone. And at some point, the expense of litigation becomes greater than the expense of a settlement, hence what we've seen with Kaep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Such is life in a litigious country. If you're a money machine like the NFL, and you take a stand on any topic relating to a player whatsoever, you'll get sued by someone. And at some point, the expense of litigation becomes greater than the expense of a settlement, hence what we've seen with Kaep. Kaep is the one who took a stand and he was punished for it. The overly-litigious nature of our society bothers me as much as it bothers you. But bullying bothers me even more. The bully got punched in the mouth. Will it hurt the NFL? Not one bit. But they'll think twice before turning a blind eye to collusion again, and that's a win in my book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: Kaep is the one who took a stand and he was punished for it. The overly-litigious nature of our society bothers me as much as it bothers you. But bullying bothers me even more. The bully got punched in the mouth. Will it hurt the NFL? Not one bit. But they'll think twice before turning a blind eye to collusion again, and that's a win in my book. Sorry Gug, but the NFL took just as serious a stand as he did. They knew what they opened themselves up to, and they did it anyway. They didn't turn a blind eye to anything. If there's any validity to the grievance claim, then it's the literal opposite of turning a blind eye. Kaep chose to make it clear that he cared more about social issues than football, and he's been treated that way ever since. Call it a punishment if you'd like; to me, he's gotten exactly what he wanted: attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Sorry Gug, but the NFL took just as serious a stand as he did. They knew what they opened themselves up to, and they did it anyway. They didn't turn a blind eye to anything. If there's any validity to the grievance claim, then it's the literal opposite of turning a blind eye. Kaep chose to make it clear that he cared more about social issues than football, and he's been treated that way ever since. Call it a punishment if you'd like; to me, he's gotten exactly what he wanted: attention. Kaep took a stand by kneeling. The NFL took a stand by making sure Kaep remained unemployed. The social issues against which Kaep took a stand are exponentially bigger/more important than any business or game. That's why I praise him for what he did. And yes, he did get attention. Attention to those very issues. We've discussed this topic many times. I think you know that I don't agree with everything Kaep has said/done. It's just sad to me that this all started with a silent protest. A protest during which not a word was said; not a finger was raised; not a person was hurt. This man silently brought attention to a very real problem in this country by refusing to stand for a song. That's it. And he lost his livelihood for it. That should not be happening in our country. Edited February 17, 2019 by Gugny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: The NFL took a stand by making sure Kaep remained unemployed. It seems to me that we'll never know, since this settlement happened and now nothing will ever get proved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: He did bring it on himself. Players have non-guaranteed contracts in the NFL, so they can be released whenever. He did something that technically wasn't against the rules, fine. The owners have every right to decide not to employ him. Like it or not, people are allowed to run their own businesses as they see fit. If someone does something that doesn't represent ownership in a way they like, they're probably going to be out. You're free to choose, but you aren't free from the consequences of your choices. I agree that every team has the right, independently, to choose not to employ a player. It just doesn't seem lke that's all that happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 11:18 PM, Rc2catch said: Kap knew his career was over. He made his “stand” and lost his job. Many players have lost their jobs due to becoming a distraction in the locker room (media) Is he blackballed? Maybe. Is Tebow? Or is it they are just not NFL quarterback material? Kap is riding this victim thing to huge paydays outside his NFL life. Eric Reid took the knee, was finally signed by Carolina, has a good season and is rewarded with a new shiny 3 year contract. Fact is Kap doesn’t want to play, because he’ll be exposed and lose all his hype behind his “movement” This isn’t a race issue. It’s not solely because he took a knee. Tebow was as much if not more of a distraction for his teams and he too was let go. I don’t have a beef with the guy, but I find it kinda sickening he’s in the news still. I’m all for equal rights and less racial issues in the country, and of course don’t support police abusing power.. However this douche should not be the cover boy for these issues. There are thousands and thousands of educated men of different races who could be the face of equality, it should of never been a washed up NFL player holding tightly to his last 15 minutes of fame Wow. Did Kap hurt someone in your family? You have no beef, yet he's a douchebag? Rich or poor, he took a stand against police brutality. He out himself out there and risked far more than it's likely you ever will. Not my favorite QB but far better than the NFL backups and even a few starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: Wow. Did Kap hurt someone in your family? You have no beef, yet he's a douchebag? Rich or poor, he took a stand against police brutality. He out himself out there and risked far more than it's likely you ever will. Not my favorite QB but far better than the NFL backups and even a few starters. He’s a terrible rep for that movement. He didn’t do it for the “cause” come on now. You can’t seriously believe he did this and “risked” his dying career on its last breath for the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: He’s a terrible rep for that movement. He didn’t do it for the “cause” come on now. You can’t seriously believe he did this and “risked” his dying career on its last breath for the people. I agree with those that say Colin Kapernick didn't want to play football and I don't fully agree with the kneeling, but this would never have been an issue if it weren't for the public outcry. Sometimes what's good for the goose is good for the gander and it's best to ignore something as opposed to letting it eat you up inside. I must say that this young man appeared to "win" whatever the heck that means in this day and age. If I don't like something that doesn't affect me, I just don't pay attention. He's certainly no hero of mine, but I simply paid it no mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Kaep took a stand by kneeling. The NFL took a stand by making sure Kaep remained unemployed. The social issues against which Kaep took a stand are exponentially bigger/more important than any business or game. That's why I praise him for what he did. And yes, he did get attention. Attention to those very issues. We've discussed this topic many times. I think you know that I don't agree with everything Kaep has said/done. It's just sad to me that this all started with a silent protest. A protest during which not a word was said; not a finger was raised; not a person was hurt. This man silently brought attention to a very real problem in this country by refusing to stand for a song. That's it. And he lost his livelihood for it. That should not be happening in our country. He sat down during the anthem because of apparent oppression and innocent black kids being murdered by police every day...since then, the story has had to evolve in order to not be based upon a blatant lie. For the reason he gave, I credit him with nothing more than seeking attention and being uninformed. I can't agree with a lost livelihood either. He made tens of millions in football, and has parlayed his attention-seeking into endorsements off the field... and it all started with misinformation at best, and a lie at worst--should that be allowed in our country? Free speech allows him to say what he likes, and it also allows private companies to hold him accountable for what he says. No offense intended: anyone that wants to see things operate any other way is, in some fashion, opposed to such individual freedoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: He sat down during the anthem because of apparent oppression and innocent black kids being murdered by police every day...since then, the story has had to evolve in order to not be based upon a blatant lie. For the reason he gave, I credit him with nothing more than seeking attention and being uninformed. I can't agree with a lost livelihood either. He made tens of millions in football, and has parlayed his attention-seeking into endorsements off the field... and it all started with misinformation at best, and a lie at worst--should that be allowed in our country? Free speech allows him to say what he likes, and it also allows private companies to hold him accountable for what he says. No offense intended: anyone that wants to see things operate any other way is, in some fashion, opposed to such individual freedoms. You're not saying that blacks aren't oppressed and that there's not a problem with unarmed black men being shot in cold blood (murdered) by white police officers .... are you? Because both of those things are certainly real. Not sure what could be understood as misinformation, there. And before I get labeled as a "cop hater," (not by you, Bandit) - I am NOT saying that all, or even most, policemen are dirty. I have the utmost respect for the good police officers in our country. And "holding accountable," shouldn't include blocking a person from being employed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Gugny said: You're not saying that blacks aren't oppressed and that there's not a problem with unarmed black men being shot in cold blood (murdered) by white police officers .... are you? Because both of those things are certainly real. Not sure what could be understood as misinformation, there. And before I get labeled as a "cop hater," (not by you, Bandit) - I am NOT saying that all, or even most, policemen are dirty. I have the utmost respect for the good police officers in our country. And "holding accountable," shouldn't include blocking a person from being employed. I'm definitely saying that the statistics don't support the cop claim, and I've yet to see a truly compelling argument in support of systemic oppression in today's America...I mean, remember that we are, in fact, talking about a controversy that started in a league that pays thousands of black men millions of dollars to play a game for a living. The data seem to indicate that an individual's choices are what determines their life course, not skin color. Nobody is arguing that racism doesn't still exist, because evil people still exist. But the number of actual racists is far, far, far lower than what some would have you believe. We live in a time when simply disagreeing with someone of another race gets a person labeled a racist (but, oddly, it's usually not the person in the discussion that does the labeling). For me, it comes down to this: knowing how this all started, when I see Kaep's sitting during the anthem boiled down to "he's fighting racism and injustice", I think it's a crock. Edited February 17, 2019 by thebandit27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: You're not saying that blacks aren't oppressed and that there's not a problem with unarmed black men being shot in cold blood (murdered) by white police officers .... are you? Because both of those things are certainly real. Not sure what could be understood as misinformation, there. And before I get labeled as a "cop hater," (not by you, Bandit) - I am NOT saying that all, or even most, policemen are dirty. I have the utmost respect for the good police officers in our country. And "holding accountable," shouldn't include blocking a person from being employed. You do realize that of the @1000 people killed by police annually since 2014, over 60% are white? The stats aren't kept by the feds, since it is local jurisdiction. The Washington Post, a newspaper that has not once endorsed a Republican candidate for president, reports these facts annually and keeps a database. 2017 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/ 2018 - I met my non-subscriber limit. Google search 'Washington Post Police Killings 2018' or for any year for that matter since they started to keep aggregate stats for the whole country, I think it was 2014. 2019 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/?utm_term=.a7a1418e2db9 The facts don't match your feelings. I am tired of the lies. There is no widespread police hunt against 'Black America' Far more of Black America kills itself off than any police activity ever will. Where is that outcry? Far more of Black America aborts its own babies than any other race. Planned Parenthood in black communities is genocide. Panned Parenthood locations have an abortion quota to meet. Where is the outcry? Fully knowing this, Infanticide Andrew Cuomo just passed a law taking away the rights of fetuses and babies 6-9 months old that survive an abortion. Where is the outcry? How is this not genocidal racism? I am tired of the lies and B&llshit. Edited February 17, 2019 by RocCityRoller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/15/2019 at 7:40 PM, thebandit27 said: If he cant dominate in the AAF with a high school OL then he is surely done in the NFL. ....could not earn it on the football field because he is not that good and got figured out by DC"s when "tats 'n poses" distracted him from HIS JOB.......so he goes the "social injustice" route and grabs mega bucks from the NFL...can now fund his GF's "Black Panther cause"....."settlement"?......nope exploited reparations works better for me.....sham... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: You do realize that of the @1000 people killed by police annually since 2014, over 60% are white? The stats aren't kept by the feds, since it is local jurisdiction. The Washington Post, a newspaper that has not once endorsed a Republican candidate for president, reports these facts annually and keeps a database. 2017 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/ 2018 - I met my non-subscriber limit. Google search 'Washington Post Police Killings 2018' or for any year for that matter since they started to keep aggregate stats for the whole country, I think it was 2014. 2019 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/?utm_term=.a7a1418e2db9 The facts don't match your feelings. I am tired of the lies. There is no widespread police hunt against 'Black America' Far more of Black America kills itself off than any police activity ever will. Where is that outcry? Far more of Black America aborts its own babies than any other race. Planned Parenthood in black communities is genocide. Panned Parenthood locations have an abortion quota to meet. Where is the outcry? Fully knowing this, Infanticide Andrew Cuomo just passed a law taking away the rights of fetuses and babies 6-9 months old that survive an abortion. Where is the outcry? How is this not genocidal racism? I am tired of the lies and B&llshit. How many of those white's that were killed innocent? Like 12 year old Tamir Rice, cops got away with that killing. There is an outcry about blacks killing other blacks, although some seem to relish in that statistic. How about white on white crime, where's your outcry there? Won't even waste my time with your planned parenthood propaganda. 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....could not earn it on the football field because he is not that good and got figured out by DC"s when "tats 'n poses" distracted him from HIS JOB.......so he goes the "social injustice" route and grabs mega bucks from the NFL...can now fund his GF's "Black Panther cause"....."settlement"?......nope exploited reparations works better for me.....sham... this is such BS. He had a pretty good career, better than most NFL QB's since we've been watching. You don't like him or his protest, that's fine, but just say that and don't peddle the bs on his play on the field. If it wasn't for his protest, he'd be in the NFL right now, or at least for the last few seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: How many of those white's that were killed innocent? Like 12 year old Tamir Rice, cops got away with that killing. There is an outcry about blacks killing other blacks, although some seem to relish in that statistic. How about white on white crime, where's your outcry there? Won't even waste my time with your planned parenthood propaganda. this is such BS. He had a pretty good career, better than most NFL QB's since we've been watching. You don't like him or his protest, that's fine, but just say that and don't peddle the bs on his play on the field. If it wasn't for his protest, he'd be in the NFL right now, or at least for the last few seasons. ...my opinion....if you don't like it, IGNORE is your choice.....your typical high horse is a wild ride anyhow...get lost..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, thebandit27 said: For the reason he gave, I credit him with nothing more than seeking attention and being uninformed. Uninformed? Maybe. Probably. As you can see people have wildly different takes on the statistics and what that information tells you. Not surprised a life long football jock may not know all the facts. I think it ends there.. it's simple as that. We're just filling in the gaps elsewhere about him. I saw a man kneeling in a preseason game right after after 2 or 3 specific and publicized police shootings. The timing means everything.. he was upset about what had been going on. I don't think he was aware or particularly researched the statistics.. don't think he reveled in the attention like some of us keep saying given he knelt before he was even noticed by the media and stopped kneeling afterwards. But that's what I think.. you think otherwise.. we have NO idea what's going on in his head. The media turned this into a ****storm and Kaepernick became the SJW face. Many SJWs can be super annoying and uninformed lol people that generally align with that movement will agree.. so it just feels like we're taking our annoyance over some dumb SJW legion of college undergrads on Kaepernick, a man that's really said nothing publicly or gone out of his way to be in the public eye since then. What he has done is take a Nike deal and sue his employer over a civil compensation case.. both of which have nothing to do with how he felt about the police shootings when he knelt. The case didn't have to broadcasted to the publicly and debated endlessly by us WHO ARE MAKING THE NEWS ABOUT KAEP'S CASE AND DENYING THE AAF. Kaep did what anybody would do if they had a civil case against their employer or had Nike approach them. I don't see attention seeking there. I see people filling in gaps in their knowledge about some football jock after the media went bananas over 2 or 3 preseason kneels. He doesn't have to be a hero or saint but he certainly shouldn't be some sort of villain. At worst if he offended people by kneeling during the national anthem he was being shortsighted and uniformed.. and I'm fine with that opinion. Just find many opinions taking it further that he's some money grubbing media attention villain just people throwing their personal politics at a football jock. Edited February 17, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 On NFL radio on Sirus this morning they were raving about the transparency of the AAF replay system. They said Dean Blandino and Mike Ferrao (sp) are the consultants to the league and came up with the "Sky Judge" and hearing the rational on the calls live. I hope the NFL really looks at this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said: On NFL radio on Sirus this morning they were raving about the transparency of the AAF replay system. They said Dean Blandino and Mike Ferrao (sp) are the consultants to the league and came up with the "Sky Judge" and hearing the rational on the calls live. I hope the NFL really looks at this. I like the refereeing so far in this league and I hope the NFL takes some queues from that like they did the XFL. The skycam is the greatest legacy the XFL left and boy has it been a game changer for me watching the NFL on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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