Tyrod Taylor has 'nothing but love' for Buffalo

[wppete]

 

 https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/02/01/tyrod-taylor-has-nothing-but-love-for-buffalo-bills/

 

Tyrod was a class act here in Buffalo. Finally got us to the playoffs and seemed like an all around good guy. We now have our franchise QB in josh Allen. 

[BuffaloBillies]

Cleveland (or some team) should use him like a "slash"... put him in 4-5 times a game to run wildcat (or similar) with the real threat of passing. I would trust him to get 3 yards.

[Gugny]

I have nothing but love for the trade that got us a 3rd round pick and sent this a-hole's ass packing.

[RochesterLifer]

I love the final paragraph of the article:

"People can say what they want about Tyrod Taylor as a quarterback, but in terms of a human being, there is no argument. Taylor is a first-class guy through and through."

 

Absolutely. And for that, I will always be proud and happy he quarterbacked my team. 

[Gugny]

16 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

I love the final paragraph of the article:

"People can say what they want about Tyrod Taylor as a quarterback, but in terms of a human being, there is no argument. Taylor is a first-class guy through and through."

 

Absolutely. And for that, I will always be proud and happy he quarterbacked my team. 

 

It was really awesome when he whipped out the race card after showing the world how horrible of a QB he was.  Of course, it wasn't that he sucked.  It was that he's black and people simply expect more of him because of it.

 

He's scumbag for keeping racism alive and well.  Not a first-class guy.  Not even coach.  He's a bum and the Bills were better the day he left.

[BuffaloHokie13]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

It was really awesome when he whipped out the race card after showing the world how horrible of a QB he was.  Of course, it wasn't that he sucked.  It was that he's black and people simply expect more of him because of it.

 

He's scumbag for keeping racism alive and well.  Not a first-class guy.  Not even coach.  He's a bum and the Bills were better the day he left.

Your blind hatred has altered your memory here, but that's okay. It's expected.

[stosh64]

"Quote from Gugny"

It was really awesome when he whipped out the race card after showing the world how horrible of a QB he was.  Of course, it wasn't that he sucked.  It was that he's black and people simply expect more of him because of it.

 

He's scumbag for keeping racism alive and well.  Not a first-class guy.  Not even coach.  He's a bum and the Bills were better the day he left.

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Do you have a source/quote for this because I missed it?

 

Not saying he didn't say it, just that I missed it.

Thanks in advance

Edited February 1, 2019 by stosh64

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Your blind hatred has altered your memory here, but that's okay. It's expected.

 

I've read exactly what he said many times, ensuring that I wasn't misunderstanding.  I wasn't.  My memory is crystal clear and my dislike (I can't hate a man I've never met) is not blind.  Good day, sir.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

7 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

It was really awesome when he whipped out the race card after showing the world how horrible of a QB he was.  Of course, it wasn't that he sucked.  It was that he's black and people simply expect more of him because of it.

 

He's scumbag for keeping racism alive and well.  Not a first-class guy.  Not even coach.  He's a bum and the Bills were better the day he left.

Yup.  Tyrod Taylor, QB for Buffalo, one of the smallest media markets in the NFL, is for sure responsible for keeping racism alive. 

[Franco_92]

Love TT. I started watching in 2005 and he was by far the best QB I"ve seen the team have to this point. I'd like Josh to take enough of a leap this offseason to change that. But Tyrod QBed my favorite Bills season and moments to date. I was completely ready to move on last year, but glad to see he also looks back fondly. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

I've read exactly what he said many times, ensuring that I wasn't misunderstanding.  I wasn't.  My memory is crystal clear and my dislike (I can't hate a man I've never met) is not blind.  Good day, sir.

He was asked specifically about whether he felt race impacted the way people perceived his performance as a QB while the team was still winning. He was benched weeks later, and some select members of the media applied his previous comments as his reaction to the benching erroneously. Those who disliked him obviously read those statements and ran with them, also erroneously.

 

Thems the facts, jack.

[stosh64]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I've read exactly what he said many times, ensuring that I wasn't misunderstanding.  I wasn't.  My memory is crystal clear and my dislike (I can't hate a man I've never met) is not blind.  Good day, sir.

Can you source this quote for all to see please?

[Jauronimo]

Tyrod delivered some of the most exciting performances and memorable plays of the drought era.  He seems like a good guy and I wish him success. Just not in the AFC East.

Edited February 1, 2019 by Jauronimo

[Gugny]

5 minutes ago, stosh64 said:

Do you have a quote for this because I missed it?

 

Not saying he didn't say it, just that I missed it.

Thanks in advance

 

“It’s always going to be twice as bad just because of who I am – an African-American quarterback,” Taylor says, echoing a familiar refrain among people of color, regardless of professional status. “Look across the league, man. We’re held to a certain standard. We almost have to be perfect.”

“I wouldn’t say it’s just an African-American quarterback thing. It’s an African-American athlete thing – or just an African-American thing,” he says, “And that’s not anything I just found out. It’s been that way since I was a kid.”

“They claim that we’re (Taylor, Newton, Wilson) not that accurate from the pocket. I’m not sure why,” Taylor says, before adding of Rodgers and Carr: “Even though they’re ‘mobile’ guys, they don’t necessarily take on the same criticism as others. It probably is unfair.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/2017/10/14/tyrod-taylor-unfiltered-win-everythings-great-lose-want-crucify/

 

 

[Jauronimo]

2 minutes ago, stosh64 said:

Can you source this quote for all to see please?

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/198527-espn-claims-taylor-claiming-racial-motivation-for-benching/

[Mark80]

Why wouldn't he love Buffalo?  We gave him $25M ($41 if you count the $16 the Browns paid him on our contract).  $41M, set for his entire life, for a mediocre at best performance.  Could you imagine making $41M being "OK" at your job?  I would even argue that he was flat out bad.  $41M for being a bad performing employee.  Yikes.  I don't care how great of a person he is, that's crazy if you think about it.  I would offer up that he held back a team of talented WR (Woods, Hogan, Goodwin, Watkins actually looks like a pretty darn good WR corp these days) with a talented RB and a pretty good OLine.  He didn't break the drought, he held us back from being a real threat.

Edited February 1, 2019 by Mark80

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

No one ever said he wasn't a nice guy.   

 

A Very Good QB  now thats a whole different story 

Just now, Jauronimo said:

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/198527-espn-claims-taylor-claiming-racial-motivation-for-benching/

now who wrote that??    a baseball comes to mind but I could be mistaken 

 

 

 

I guess I was mistaken 

 

[stosh64]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

“It’s always going to be twice as bad just because of who I am – an African-American quarterback,” Taylor says, echoing a familiar refrain among people of color, regardless of professional status. “Look across the league, man. We’re held to a certain standard. We almost have to be perfect.”

“I wouldn’t say it’s just an African-American quarterback thing. It’s an African-American athlete thing – or just an African-American thing,” he says, “And that’s not anything I just found out. It’s been that way since I was a kid.”

“They claim that we’re (Taylor, Newton, Wilson) not that accurate from the pocket. I’m not sure why,” Taylor says, before adding of Rodgers and Carr: “Even though they’re ‘mobile’ guys, they don’t necessarily take on the same criticism as others. It probably is unfair.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/2017/10/14/tyrod-taylor-unfiltered-win-everythings-great-lose.

Damn, race card officially pulled.

Kind of wish I didn't read that.

Thanks for going through the bother of sourcing.  Appreciated.

 So TT was a great QB, we just didn't recognize that because we're racists.

Got it.

[Kirby Jackson]

It’s funny, that the people that wanted EJ to win the QB battle have never come to terms that Tyrod was absolutely the best option at the time. He delivered a winning record as the Bills QB and ended the drought. He handled himself with class the entire time. Tyrod is a guy that we should remember fondly. He was a decent QB that didn’t lose games. 

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s funny, that the people that wanted EJ to win the QB battle have never come to terms that Tyrod was absolutely the best option at the time. He delivered a winning record as the Bills QB and ended the drought. He handled himself with class the entire time. Tyrod is a guy that we should remember fondly. He was a decent QB that didn’t lose games. 

This.

4 minutes ago, stosh64 said:

Damn, race card officially pulled.

Kind of wish I didn't read that.

Thanks for going through the bother of sourcing.  Appreciated.

 So TT was a great QB, we just didn't recognize that because we're racists.

Got it.

He never said he was great. That's a misrepresentation of what he was trying to convey.

[blacklabel]

While I'm not sure about his comments about being a black QB in a league where the players are predominately black, I do appreciate that he was able to help the Bills end the drought. And although Allen is gonna throw a couple of picks from time to time, I prefer his tenacity and willingness to push it down the field as opposed to Taylor who played it safe most of the time.

[MJS]

7 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

“It’s always going to be twice as bad just because of who I am – an African-American quarterback,” Taylor says, echoing a familiar refrain among people of color, regardless of professional status. “Look across the league, man. We’re held to a certain standard. We almost have to be perfect.”

“I wouldn’t say it’s just an African-American quarterback thing. It’s an African-American athlete thing – or just an African-American thing,” he says, “And that’s not anything I just found out. It’s been that way since I was a kid.”

“They claim that we’re (Taylor, Newton, Wilson) not that accurate from the pocket. I’m not sure why,” Taylor says, before adding of Rodgers and Carr: “Even though they’re ‘mobile’ guys, they don’t necessarily take on the same criticism as others. It probably is unfair.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/2017/10/14/tyrod-taylor-unfiltered-win-everythings-great-lose-want-crucify/

 

I remember this. I'm not sure why anyone still holds this against him. He has every right to feel that way whether it's accurate or not, just as people have the right to claim that there is no racial motivation in sports whether that is accurate or not. Two halves of the same coin.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

9 minutes ago, stosh64 said:

Damn, race card officially pulled.

Kind of wish I didn't read that.

Thanks for going through the bother of sourcing.  Appreciated.

 So TT was a great QB, we just didn't recognize that because we're racists.

Got it.

Nm the mountain of statistical evidence that demonstrates that black athletes (and people) are judged more harshly than their white peers. 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

 

I remember this. I'm not sure why anyone still holds this against him. He has every right to feel that way whether it's accurate or not, just as people have the right to claim that there is no racial motivation in sports whether that is accurate or not. Two halves of the same coin.

 

The (specifically "My") problem is that if he felt this strongly about being treated so unfairly - and all other African-Americans being treated unfairly - then why did he wait until after he was benched to discuss it?  It is painfully transparent.

2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

Nm the mountain of statistical evidence that demonstrates that black athletes (and people) are judged more harshly than their white peers. 

 

Linky?

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

The (specifically "My") problem is that if he felt this strongly about being treated so unfairly - and all other African-Americans being treated unfairly - then why did he wait until after he was benched to discuss it?  It is painfully transparent.

Mina Kims did a whole write up on this very topic while he was still the starting QB.  Youre timeline is wrong. 

[MJS]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

The (specifically "My") problem is that if he felt this strongly about being treated so unfairly - and all other African-Americans being treated unfairly - then why did he wait until after he was benched to discuss it?  It is painfully transparent.

 

Probably because he was mad that he got benched and believed that he deserved to play? Oh, and because a reporter specifically asked him the loaded question.

[Clyde Smith]

14 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

“It’s always going to be twice as bad just because of who I am – an African-American quarterback,” Taylor says, echoing a familiar refrain among people of color, regardless of professional status. “Look across the league, man. We’re held to a certain standard. We almost have to be perfect.”

“I wouldn’t say it’s just an African-American quarterback thing. It’s an African-American athlete thing – or just an African-American thing,” he says, “And that’s not anything I just found out. It’s been that way since I was a kid.”

“They claim that we’re (Taylor, Newton, Wilson) not that accurate from the pocket. I’m not sure why,” Taylor says, before adding of Rodgers and Carr: “Even though they’re ‘mobile’ guys, they don’t necessarily take on the same criticism as others. It probably is unfair.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/2017/10/14/tyrod-taylor-unfiltered-win-everythings-great-lose-want-crucify/

 

 

This is what you are mad at Tyrod about? What he is saying is absolutely true, it's not a race card thing. It is what it is, been that way for decades and to some extent still continues.

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

The (specifically "My") problem is that if he felt this strongly about being treated so unfairly - and all other African-Americans being treated unfairly - then why did he wait until after he was benched to discuss it?  It is painfully transparent.

I think you're a little too salty about this. People often react in a sensitive manner when a cherished dream is threatened. I agree it was poor play, not anything ethnic, that was behind his benching, but I would cut Taylor some slack. It is the ever willing parasites in the media with an agenda that deserve complete contempt and disdain.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

The (specifically "My") problem is that if he felt this strongly about being treated so unfairly - and all other African-Americans being treated unfairly - then why did he wait until after he was benched to discuss it?  It is painfully transparent.

 

Linky?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/oct/02/athletes-racism-language-sports-cam-newton

 

One of a thousand.  How can one live in this society and not be at least proximally aware of this? 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, Clyde Smith said:

This is what you are mad at Tyrod about? What he is saying is absolutely true, it's not a race card thing. It is what it is, been that way for decades and to some extent still continues.

 

I'm not mad at him.  He was benched in Buffalo because he sucked.  He was benched in Cleveland because he sucked.  He wasn't benched because he's black.

Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/oct/02/athletes-racism-language-sports-cam-newton

 

One of a thousand.  How can one live in this society and not be at least proximally aware of this? 

 

Never, anywhere, have I said that this doesn't happen.  I am talking specifically about Tyrod Taylor.  He was never unfairly judged.  He was given the opportunity to start for two NFL teams (THREE YEARS, here) and he failed two times.  That's not a color issue.  That's a "he isn't a good QB" issue.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Prior to his trade he was the Best Bills QB since Jim Kelly on the field... one of the few that can claim a winning record during their stinit. 

 

In in my view the ones who chose to hate him were always the ones with their own issues.  

 

Most everyone else knew what kind of player he was and wasn’t and thanked him for holding the fort down with some occasional flashes of brilliance and a dutiful conservatism that reflected his own understanding of his limitations.   

 

 

 

 

[Captain Hindsight]

Always appreciated Taylor as he somewhat stabilized the position for a few years. But I will always think he could have broken the drought sooner if he hadnt missed so many opportunities. He played safe so often instead of letting it rip.

 

We had a stacked offense and we needed a QB willing to exploit that and he couldnt. 

[87168]

27 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I'm not mad at him.  He was benched in Buffalo because he sucked.  He was benched in Cleveland because he sucked.  He wasn't benched because he's black.

 

Never, anywhere, have I said that this doesn't happen.  I am talking specifically about Tyrod Taylor.  He was never unfairly judged.  He was given the opportunity to start for two NFL teams (THREE YEARS, here) and he failed two times.  That's not a color issue.  That's a "he isn't a good QB" issue.

but Peterman was/is, since he was retained and TT was released...? haha!

 

people will use any excuse to justify their own bigotry and cognitive dissonance.

 

it's amazing how people get more upset about someone calling out racism or bias, than the actual act itself. absolutely breathtaking.

 

...but then again I wouldn't expect much else from you.

 

29 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said:

This is what you are mad at Tyrod about? What he is saying is absolutely true, it's not a race card thing. It is what it is, been that way for decades and to some extent still continues.

you have to understand whom you're speaking to. do you really think this individual has faced any racism or knows anyone who has? it doesn't resonate.  to most people in this country the term is a fable. as if the civil war, and jim crow era never took place. he says:

 

"I'm not mad at him" - but repeatedly refers to him as a scumbag. there's malice and hatred there.

 

it really isn't worth it @Clyde Smith. just another confused and angry elder.

 

the fact that this topic took the turn it did...is really sad.

 

 

Edited February 1, 2019 by 87168

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

27 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I'm not mad at him.  He was benched in Buffalo because he sucked.  He was benched in Cleveland because he sucked.  He wasn't benched because he's black.

 

Never, anywhere, have I said that this doesn't happen.  I am talking specifically about Tyrod Taylor.  He was never unfairly judged.  He was given the opportunity to start for two NFL teams (THREE YEARS, here) and he failed two times.  That's not a color issue.  That's a "he isn't a good QB" issue.

 

Yeah? How many starting QBs get traded the year after they make the playoffs? 

[BringBackOrton]

1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Yeah? How many starting QBs get traded the year after they make the playoffs? 

How many good QBs get traded for and then benched in 2 games?

[87168]

2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Yeah? How many starting QBs get traded the year after they make the playoffs? 

probably the same number of backup QBs that become starter after throwing 5 picks.

 

Just now, BringBackOrton said:

How many good QBs get traded for and then benched in 2 games?

right over your head huh?

Edited February 1, 2019 by 87168

[Stank_Nasty]

40 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s funny, that the people that wanted EJ to win the QB battle have never come to terms that Tyrod was absolutely the best option at the time. He delivered a winning record as the Bills QB and ended the drought. He handled himself with class the entire time. Tyrod is a guy that we should remember fondly. He was a decent QB that didn’t lose games. 

its really this simple for me. I thought they moved on a year too late. or at the very least waited a year too long to draft a successor. but I agree with all your thoughts here.... the sad thing is you mention his name and there are some level headed posters that just go completely postal and its hard to take anything they say about other topics seriously after their posts in these threads.

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, 87168 said:

but Peterman was/is, since he was retained and TT was released...? haha!

 

people will use any excuse to justify their own bigotry and cognitive dissonance.

 

it's amazing how people get more upset about someone calling out racism or bias, than the actual act itself. absolutely breathtaking.

 

...but then again I wouldn't expect much else from you.

 

you have to understand whom you're speaking to. do you really think this individual has faced any racism or knows anyone who has it doesn't resonate.  to most people in this country the term is a fable. as if the civil war, and jim crow era never took place. he says:

 

"I'm not mad at him" - but repeatedly refers to him as a scumbag.

 

it really isn't worth it @Clyde Smith. just another confused and angry elder.

 

the fact that this topic took the turn it did...is really sad.

 

 

 

How many games did the Bills give Peterman before they benched and subsequently dumped him?  3?  4?

 

Taylor got about 40. 

 

That is some pretty overwhelming evidence of unfair judgment, I tell ya!

 

PM me and I'll tell you about the time some punk called me a ***** at a gas station.  Oh, wait ... I could NEVER have experienced that, right?  Because, since I called out Tyrod Taylor for whipping out the race card, I MUST be a pasty white guy who flies a confederate flag from the back of my F-350. 

 

Hypocrite.

5 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Yeah? How many starting QBs get traded the year after they make the playoffs? 

 

Traded?  Not sure.

 

But Blake Bortles, who had playoff success in 2017, was benched a couple times last year.  I wonder if it was because his name is Blake.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

How many good QBs get traded for and then benched in 2 games?

 

Thats fair.  In the end, my point is that black athletes are judged more critically because they are black.  Whether TT ended up failing is beside the point, he was still judged more critically than what was deserved because of the color of his skin.  And him pointing that out does not make him a race baiter.  

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

10 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

How many games did the Bills give Peterman before they benched and subsequently dumped him?  3?  4?

 

Taylor got about 40. 

 

That is some pretty overwhelming evidence of unfair judgment, I tell ya!

 

PM me and I'll tell you about the time some punk called me a ***** at a gas station.  Oh, wait ... I could NEVER have experienced that, right?  Because, since I called out Tyrod Taylor for whipping out the race card, I MUST be a pasty white guy who flies a confederate flag from the back of my F-350. 

 

Hypocrite.

 

Traded?  Not sure.

 

But Blake Bortles, who had playoff success in 2017, was benched a couple times last year.  I wonder if it was because his name is Blake.

Go figure, a white QB was given another season to see if he could play better.  The black QB? No such luck.