row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 How does it require a big mysterious scientific find to tell us that taking thousands of hard hits to your head in football is going to be a bad thing for you? And another predictable assertion by pot smokers that pot cures more ailments than a travelling snake oil show used to promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: How does it require a big mysterious scientific find to tell us that taking thousands of hard hits to your head in football is going to be a bad thing for you? And another predictable assertion by pot smokers that pot cures more ailments than a travelling snake oil show used to promise. Nothing bad with cannabis oils but I suppose opioids get a fair pass for being approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thriftygamer83 said: Nothing bad with cannabis oils but I suppose opioids get a fair pass for being approved. Nothing wrong with the approved use of opioids to get through short-term extreme pain levels caused by medical operations. About 24 people in my life the last 2 years went through operations and were prescribed opioids and they used them and ended the use when the pain was gone, as directed. Edited December 28, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: Nothing wrong with the approved use of opioids to get through short-term extreme pain levels caused by medical operations. About 24 people in my life the last 2 years went through operations and were prescribed opioids and they used them and ended the use when the pain was gone, as directed. Did they really; would not be holding anything back and typing this up as a Gagnon type anti-weed memo right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Seantrel Henderson disagrees Seantrel smoked Weed before he ever had Crones Disease. He was suspended multiple times for weed abuse going back to college. If it was about the disease he could of worked with the NFL for an exemption, but he did not because it was not the CBD to treat the disease he craved - it was the actual pot and the high feeling. There are treatments using CBD that can be helpful without getting the high feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 7 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: Are you arguing that Benzos aren’t safer than heroin? Hot take bro. Sarcasm doesn't sit well with you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Seantrel smoked Weed before he ever had Crones Disease. He was suspended multiple times for weed abuse going back to college. If it was about the disease he could of worked with the NFL for an exemption, but he did not because it was not the CBD to treat the disease he craved - it was the actual pot and the high feeling. There are treatments using CBD that can be helpful without getting the high feeling. Right I agree. The Seantrel reference was a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, iinii said: Like this message board? Just your ***** posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 hours ago, NewDayBills said: I take CBD oil and it has worked wonders for me. I also smoke weed occasionally and it helps me with anxiety and depression. CBD could be used - it typically has very low levels of other cannabinoids and THC that is in the drug testing. Plus at the NFL level the THC cutoff is quite high as they raised levels. In reality if players wanted to actually treat illness they could do it with CBD oil and most likely never get caught if they are getting the oil from a respectable company that removes as many impurities as possible. The problem is that players are not using it for illness - even if they try to use it as an excuse. They are getting high and that is banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: This a post filled with misinformation about the health benefits of marijuana. its not a magic plant dude. Well, we don't really know what it does or doesn't do because being on Schedule 1 makes it next to impossible to conduct serious scientific study in the USA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 IMO, most NFL players, just like millions of Americans smoke weed because they like the high. It should be legal everywhere including the NFL. CBD works for many conditions and I know that first hand as I take it for my peripheral neuropathy, it lessens the pain in my feet. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Sarcasm doesn't sit well with you... If you take your post sarcastically, that’s what you’re saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Thriftygamer83 said: Nothing bad with cannabis oils but I suppose opioids get a fair pass for being approved. Neither Opioids or Marijuana in moderation are an issue, but just like alcohol or other prescription drugs - when abused they cause problems. The issue is that opioids are being abused and people are bringing in tainted drugs like laced Fentanyl and it is killing people. Many people (including NFL players) could use CBD oil for treatment and get many of the same effects - especially with quick absorbing oil under the tongue that gets into the system as fast as smoking weed, but you lose the good feeling associated with weed. The difficult part is why is someone taking or using the weed are they abusing it or taking it for management of illness. What studies are showing in states that have legalized pot use - is that the number of “high” drivers and accidents are up because they are looking for it now and it is becoming a huge issue. Another issue is that until there is good long term benefits versus risks analysis done and the actual rate of addiction is determined- everything is just people’s opinion. I always hear people say well pot is not addicting and that is bull as can be shown by the number of people that continue even when it will cost them their job or livelihood. The drug may not be as addictive as something like opioids, but the feeling created becomes something you crave and that becomes addictive. There are also studies being done looking at how feelings of anxiety and depression initially become better, but after long term use - the feelings get stronger making user crave more drug and faster between use doses. Edited December 28, 2018 by Rochesterfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Bfanlc said: Heard of a local Florida doctor's office is giving a 2 for one deal. Pay to bend over and have your prostate checked and they do the head split for free. modern medicine sure has made strides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 gotta prove what exactly cte is first before we start treating it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Augie said: My BIL was diagnosed with Parkinson’s more than a decade ago. Marijuana and regular exercise helped him tremendously. It’s real. Unfortunately, he’s now got a serious spinal issue and may never walk again. Lack of progress will get him tossed from rehab center, only to be sent home where my sister can’t care for him alone. I have to go ahead and get my long term care policy my wife has been after for years. You could blow through a fortune and be broke in no time without it. I’d rather die than do that to my family. Look into that, my friends. Proceed with caution. Lots of shady companies in the long-term care business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, aristocrat said: gotta prove what exactly cte is first before we start treating it. Nobody's trying to cure CTE. You don't need to know what exactly something is when you know the symptoms and benign drugs that treat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 everyone’s an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: He didn’t prescribe him CBD for CTE though, did he? No but they will for ex- vets suffering from PTSD. I’m sure they’re are doctors who have and will for CTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: No but they will for ex- vets suffering from PTSD. I’m sure they’re are doctors who have and will for CTE. Well, prove it and get back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 10 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: You've never gotten a physical and had your head split open under anesthesia for a look at the brain? Pretty routine in my neck of the woods. I lived in Houston for 4 years, and that explains A LOT! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: gotta prove what exactly cte is first before we start treating it. It’s possibly the physical manifestation of what we’ve called punch drunk in old boxers but we aren’t allowed to call it that the result of taking thousands of hard hits to your skull, not even remotely a surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switz1610 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 CBD is technically a legal substance as of the signing of the 2018 Farm Bill. This bill allows for industrial hemp production which, broadly, allows for all cannabis products with less than .3% THC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: Well, prove it and get back to me. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-medical-marijuana-illinois-annual-report-20181004-story.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I am get up every morning and find 50 studies showing pot can cure every physcial and mental illness. and yet here we are about 50 years into it infiltrating normal lives and it isn’t resolving much. It’s a Darwinian weedout..... at best..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 12 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Seantrel Henderson disagrees It is known to giving Krones patients relief, but hey.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 12 hours ago, NewDayBills said: I take CBD oil and it has worked wonders for me. I also smoke weed occasionally and it helps me with anxiety and depression. I will post once in this thread but most CBD oil is so poorly produced it contains a lot of THC and you're Essentially just getting high. I'm terrified of what will happen to kids who are being given it by negligent parents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-medical-marijuana-illinois-annual-report-20181004-story.html I don't see CTE at all in that article... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: I don't see CTE at all in that article... The pseudo-claim will be it cures CTE or prevents you from ever getting it no matter how many times you practically ran full force and slammed your head into a brick wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: The pseudo-claim will be it cures CTE or prevents you from ever getting it no matter how many times you practically ran full force and slammed your head into a brick wall? You sound like a Big Pharma shill. The truth is out there!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: You sound like a Big Pharma shill. The truth is out there!!!! I had a blast weaning off morphine from hospital visits for chronic pain 23 years ago. I avoid any drug at all unless totally necessary. For a broken foot ten years ago I turned down the 8 different opioids my Doc effortlessly recommended, I could deal with the pain. i reject dental freezing for surface cavity work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 My 65 yr old mother lost her right leg, above the knee, due to complications during a knee surgery 2.5 years ago... two months before her planned retirement. She has suffered tremendously physically, and even more so mentally and emotionally. She used to be the strongest person anyone in our family and circle of friends ever knew. She was our rock. Now addicted to opioids, over the last two years, she had devolved to "just waiting to die". I have given her weed and e-joints to help with pain and depression (she is a child of the 60s, so not a new thing for her). But...my step dad brought her CBD oil from Hawaii and it has made a huge difference in her! Two drops under ther tongue, as often as she wishes. She swears that her pain is reduced. Everyone else has noticed an improvement in her emotions. She has cut her narcotics intake drastically and seems happier than she has been in a long time. She also partakes in smoking a pinch hit from time to time, and loves it. True story. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds_80 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 10 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Thank you my friend. I think of repeat offenders with millions of dollars to lose and they smoke anyways. I don't think it's because they're stupid and reckless. When you are sick, you will do ANYTHING to feel better, anything to alleviate the pain. I'm bipolar and many of the symptoms I experience are very similar to what NFL players go through: irritability, depression, anxiety, mood swings etc. CBD and maybe a little bit of smoke takes all those things away. I do the CBD when I have to go to work or drive and I smoke when I'm home and in for the night. Works for me. I'd like to see the NFL do some research on this topic. This. I personally have a card because if seizures and it works wonders. Cbd during work and the day and leaf occasionally when I get home and use it as a night cap. I had 2 seizures in a year and got prescribed. Have not had one in 3 years. Its about time the NFL looks into this as a real remedy. These guys are beat up and aching everywhere. This issue to me is small peanuts compared to the domestic violence issue in the NFL, althought that is a much bigger and harder iasue to deal with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 12 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Just a random thought, hope I am not violating the tos and I am sorry if I am but I am awfully curious about this topic. Obviously marijuana is banned by the NFL, but I've wondered for quite some time if football players smoke because it relieves symptoms of CTE. Do any of you think this is possible? It would be pretty tragic if the NFL banned a substance that could benefit their players mental health, especially with something as serious as CTE. I know weed helps treat a myriad of illnesses from bipolar disorder all the way down to arthritis and inflammation. Could marijuana benefit players and should the NFL take it off its banned substances list? It would be a shame if the NFL was taking away something that could be beneficial to its players. Do you guys think weed could actually help the NFL? Thoughts? I think most players smoke it for cultural purposes and probably aren't aware of any benefits, though it probably does help with overall pain relief. Could it be used to treat CTE symptoms? Probably! Pot is going to be legal everywhere in this country soon enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, yungmack said: Proceed with caution. Lots of shady companies in the long-term care business. I’m sure that’s a very real concern, and a good point. My wife is in the wealth management business and she worked with a high end financial planner they have an alliance with to find a quality company to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I think most players smoke it for cultural purposes and probably aren't aware of any benefits, though it probably does help with overall pain relief. Could it be used to treat CTE symptoms? Probably! Pot is going to be legal everywhere in this country soon enough. Is the legal aspect mostly involving non-smoking use? You can’t smoke in almost any social environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, BUFFALOKIE said: My 65 yr old mother lost her right leg, above the knee, due to complications during a knee surgery 2.5 years ago... two months before her planned retirement. She has suffered tremendously physically, and even more so mentally and emotionally. She used to be the strongest person anyone in our family and circle of friends ever knew. She was our rock. Now addicted to opioids, over the last two years, she had devolved to "just waiting to die". I have given her weed and e-joints to help with pain and depression (she is a child of the 60s, so not a new thing for her). But...my step dad brought her CBD oil from Hawaii and it has made a huge difference in her! Two drops under ther tongue, as often as she wishes. She swears that her pain is reduced. Everyone else has noticed an improvement in her emotions. She has cut her narcotics intake drastically and seems happier than she has been in a long time. She also partakes in smoking a pinch hit from time to time, and loves it. True story. Few are going to argue for a denial of drug use for those in palliative or practically-palliative conditons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: Few are going to argue for a denial of drug use for those in palliative or practically-palliative conditons. I had to look up "palliative". Appropriate term for CBD/THC, I suppose. I love, but miss the stuff. I admit it does nothing but mask the problem. Same as any painkiller or anxiety/depression drug...albeit with fewer detrimental side effects or addiction concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Doc: Here, take this for your pain. Team: You’re suspended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 13 hours ago, NewDayBills said: I take CBD oil and it has worked wonders for me. I also smoke weed occasionally and it helps me with anxiety and depression. What do you use it for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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