Mike Tanier - The Decline of Tom Brady, Part XIV: This Time It's Really Happening

[Nihilarian]

The bigger problem with the Patriots team right now is their 28th ranked defense.

 

Yes, Mike Vrable's Titans made Brady look ordinary but he knows that Patriots playbook inside out. The same thing happened against the 3-6 Lions with ex Patriots DC Matt Patricia as the Lions HC. The Lions beat NE 26 to 10. Still, The Patriots are 7-3 and two of those losses came from an ex Patriot player, coach. 

 

The remaining NE Patriots schedule is Jets, Vikings, Dolphins, Steelers, Bills, Jets and should finish the season 12-4 That is "IF" they lose to the Steelers. Let's also not forget that Peyton Manning won a SB with a bad arm. The Patriots have the second easiest remaining schedule.

 

What a lot of fans just don't get is that Patriots offense is a different animal without Gronk and when he is fully healthy he/that NE offense is basically unstoppable. 

[TheFunPolice]

Everyone keeps mentioning Manning winning with Denver but there is one huge difference...

 

Denver had a dominant defense. NE has a mediocre to bad defense. 

[formerlyofCtown]

27 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Everyone keeps mentioning Manning winning with Denver but there is one huge difference...

 

Denver had a dominant defense. NE has a mediocre to bad defense. 

Tom Brady has Belicheat and hours of tape to watch.  Unfortunately for the other team its a tape of their game plan and possibly their playbook.  Hopefuly we took Humbers.

[row_33]

Pats will come up with some ingenius loophole in the rule book and spring it on Andy Reid in the last minute of the AFC Championshop Game

 

Then pass out the victory cigars again

 

 

[RememberTheRockpile]

5 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

I truly believe his arm has diminished and he isn’t processing as quickly either. The end isnt far of for him and the Pats will become bottom feeders!

Age related reaction time will be his ultimate demise. No amount of kale slurpees can prevent this. 

[Richard Noggin]

9 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

No one can play forever and few have like he has at his age. Still goes out as the best ever. 

 

Nobody's winning 5 SB''s anytime soon. Been a pleasure watching his career, except for two games a year.

Said no Bills fan ever.

7 hours ago, MJS said:

I'll withhold judgement till after the season. Brady has off games sometimes, and when he does there are always threads like these quick to point it out.

 

And then every single time he makes a fool of everyone.

 

So no, I do not believe Brady has lost a step, that his age has caught up to him, that his arm has lost strength, etc. I'll reevaluate after all the games are done.

But have you watched him throw off-platform?

 

Obviously it's easy and probably smart to dismiss this kind of criticism. It could also (eventually will) be lazy, however. What other elite NFL quarterback is forgiven for being hot trash when forced off-platform?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Sounds like Tom needs the   DB9   diet 

 

 

Tommy Boy might actually need to lift weights now. (Don't give me that lifting is bad for QBs BS)

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

11 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

He's right, and Belichick saw it coming.

 

Their entire offseason, draft, and in-season game plan was/is predicated upon transitioning to a run-based offense.  If they can't run the ball, they're in real trouble.

 

They've scored 27 or more points 5 times this year, and those outputs came in their 5 best rushing efforts.

 

Stop the run, and you stop NE.  We saw it vs. Buf on MNF--a team with a half-competent offense would've won that game.

 

Belly must still be pissed about trading Garrapolo.

 

they might have to tank next year for a QB.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

11 hours ago, Commonsense said:

Bert Breer was on the radio today and made an interesting comment. He was talking about how he covered Farve during his final season. He went on to talk about how during that time he could tell Favre’s internal clock was messed up and he said he saw that from Brady on Sunday. 

 

Not holding the ball when he should, not moving as well, going into the fetal position to try and brace for hits. He went into pretty good detail and that’s something that is often overlooked. Everyone waits for their arm to go but pocket awareness is just as important. 

 

I think many are forgetting that Vrabel knows them in and out . They also got waxed by Detroit whose HC was their DC. The games I saw Brady still looked pretty good and his arm wasn't as bad as this article is leading on. Every QB looks like crap when the get hit enough.

 

 

 

 

[Jpsredemption]

No its not. 

[BobbyC81]

14 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I think it is true, you saw it last year, look at his feeble attempt to thrown the ball at at then of the Super Bowl, couldn't get it to the end zone.  Pats made their mistake with all that  BS turmoil over Garrappalo, they had a reasonable Brady replacement, now they have Bran Hoyer.

 

They’re just waiting for Peterman to clear waivers.

[billsfan_34]

11 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

I think this is the beginning of the end for Brady for sure.  A week off this week, the rest will do him good and help heal some of the aches and pains..so he may come back with 1 or 2 stellar games, but he already is not who he was in the past.

 

You don't just have to look at numbers either, you can see it with your own eyes.  I mentioned a week or two ago I thought this time it was real..his downturn.  He's throwing less and less deep balls, and they are fluttering more.  His short and medium outs, even the ones that are complete, are not on the numbers anymore (half the time the receives are jumping, bending, or reaching back for them in a way they haven't in the past.  And while NO QB likes pressure, I think this year is the year I am seeing him throw the ball away or just give up on plays sooner than ever when the rush gets near him, he is even starting to show signs of feeling a 'phantom rush'.

 

All that stuff has been going on for most of the year..its' not just one or two games.  So is he "DONE"?  not yet...but it is in sight.  The Pats still have an above average QB in him that has the ability to pull out a few more 'great' games....but the days of him carrying this team on his back game after game after game are ending very soon.

I couldn’t agree more! I see the pats 9-7 or 10-6. They win the division, host wild card game and take a beatdown! 

[MrEpsYtown]

The keep writing these articles every year and he keeps proving them wrong. He'll eliminate gluten and dairy and start drinking stem cells like Christopher Reeve in South Park. And he will sell the soul of his youngest to the devil and they will be there again at the end. 

[billsfan_34]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Belly must still be pissed about trading Garrapolo.

 

they might have to tank next year for a QB.

 

 

I hope they tank for a long time and never find a QB.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

13 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1971480002

 

interesting Vrabel indicates Brady’s entire game is presnap reads. Maybe it’s more Belichick than Brady. 

[cd1]

10 hours ago, stuvian said:

they've declined right back to the top of the division

 

I say it is debatable - Did the Pats rise to the top or is it just a factor that the three other teams just sank, or are sinking to the bottom? 

 

YES, it does make a big difference.

 

I do believe that IF last week's Bills defense shows up and Allen can bring his A game, that the Bills will SPANK the Pats in Foxboro.  

 

That right there will be the turning point for the Bills and the Pats! 

 

Nostradamus out... ?‍♂️ 

[Gordio]

15 hours ago, RiotAct said:

yeah, okay.  Sure.

 

 

What do you think he is going to play forever?  It has got to happen sooner or later.  He is still good enough to need to be game planned for but I will say this.  I couldn't believe the drop off Manning had the last year he played.  It seemed like it happened overnight.  He was having a good year then all of a sudden the calender turned to December & he was a shell of his former self.  I know we heard this one before so sure I am skeptical as well.

[dave mcbride]

So the consensus seems to be that we’re nearing THAT time! 

 

[Magox]

My guess is that he'll find a way to get it done this year and at an effective rate.  But make no mistake, his physical capabilities are deteriorating.

[dpberr]

It wouldn't shock me, if the season turns mediocre to poor for them, that all three (Bill, Tom and Gronk) all call it quits before the 2019 season.  Outside of Brady, the team legitimately needs to restock in many areas. 

 

I could see Belichick simply becoming the full time GM.  Brady has nothing else to prove.  Gronkowski had to be coaxed to play yet another injury-filled season.  Doubt he'll do it again.

 

Greatness is always finite.