Da Bears

[YoloinOhio]

They are 4-3 and have looked a bit uneven this year but in general have a really good defense. They lost to Osweiler but have really good stats. Their D kind of reminds me of the Bills. Obviously we all know about Mack , though he’s been hobbled lately. They just lost their best OL Kyle Long for 6-8 weeks which could be interesting. But they have a lot of weapons - Tarik Cohen, Jordan Howard, ARob, Anthony Miller, Trey Burton. Trubisky can hurt you with his feet and in one of their games threw 6 TDs. But i watched them vs the Jets and their offense was nothing to speak of. They kind of remind me of the titans.

 

anyone watch them a lot and have insight? Save the “it doesn’t matter” comments ... it’s still football season for those who want to discuss the opponent/ matchup.

[row_33]

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are 4-3 and have looked a bit uneven this year but in general have a really good defense. They lost to Osweiler but have really good stats. Their D kind of reminds me of the Bills. Obviously we all know about Mack , though he’s been hobbled lately. They just lost their best OL Kyle Long for 6-8 weeks which could be interesting. But they have a lot of weapons - Tarik Cohen, Jordan Howard, ARob, Anthony Miller, Trey Burton. Trubisky can hurt you with his feet and in one of their games threw 6 TDs. But i watched them vs the Jets and their offense was nothing to speak of. They kind of remind me of the titans.

 

anyone watch them a lot and have insight? Save the “it doesn’t matter” comments ... it’s still football season for those who want to discuss the opponent/ matchup.

 

 

for the win on the Jets they had an early 70 yard TD throw, a one yard pass that broke perfectly, and kept the ball on the ground for most of the game

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 31, 2018 by row_33

[CommonCents]

You covered it pretty well. Nagy will try and use Cohen to slow punish an aggressive Buffalo D. Howard hasn’t looked great this year, he did shake off some rust at the end of the Jets games. Showed a little wiggle and had his longest run of the season. (20 something yards)

 

Arob sat out last week, he is also hurt. I don’t think Mack plays this week. 

[PatsFanNH]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are 4-3 and have looked a bit uneven this year but in general have a really good defense. They lost to Osweiler but have really good stats. Their D kind of reminds me of the Bills. Obviously we all know about Mack , though he’s been hobbled lately. They just lost their best OL Kyle Long for 6-8 weeks which could be interesting. But they have a lot of weapons - Tarik Cohen, Jordan Howard, ARob, Anthony Miller, Trey Burton. Trubisky can hurt you with his feet and in one of their games threw 6 TDs. But i watched them vs the Jets and their offense was nothing to speak of. They kind of remind me of the titans.

 

anyone watch them a lot and have insight? Save the “it doesn’t matter” comments ... it’s still football season for those who want to discuss the opponent/ matchup.

For your D the key will be to NOT over run Trubisky. If they do he will scamper for huge gains. He did that against the Pats a couple weeks ago.. they got pressure but the open lanes for him to run were annoying. 

 

Their D is legit and if I was the Bills head coach I’d be reinforcing “protect the football” as I believe the Bills could hang around and possibly win as long as they don’t give the Bears short or easy points. Their O isn’t great but it is capable of stringing drives together.

 

my question to you is, do you see the D having a let down after leaving it all on the field Monday and still not coming away with the W? 

Edited October 31, 2018 by PatsFanNH

[JPP]

simply put we need out defence to come out again like they did this past monday night to have any chance whatsoever.......im expecting our offence to grind out maybe a handful of fieldgoals at best....until they can show some sembalance of an nfl offence i have lost all faith in them for this season plus with the possible peterman show starting again....ouch....this one may just get very ugly very early.....

[CommonCents]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

For your D the key will be to NOT over run Trubisky. If they do he will scamper for huge gains. He did that against the Pats a couple weeks ago.. they got pressure but the open lanes for him to run were annoying. 

 

Their D is legit and if I was the Bills head coach I’d be reinforcing “protect the football” as I believe the Bills could hang around and possibly win as long as they don’t give the Bears short or easy points. Their O isn’t great but it is capable of stringing drives together.

 

my question to you is, do you see the D having a let down after leaving it all on the field Monday and still not coming away with the W? 

Bills D would destroy Trubisky if starts doing that stop and start running baloney he did against NE. That was a poor effort by NE. I don’t see the Polish Hammer doing much of that Sunday.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

For your D the key will be to NOT over Perdue Trubisky. If they do he will scamper for huge gains. He did that against the Pats a couple weeks ago.. they got pressure but the open lanes for him to run were annoying. 

 

Their D is legit and if I was the Bills head coach I’d be reinforcing “protect the football” as I believe the Bills could hang around and possibly win as long as they don’t give the Bears short or easy points. Their O isn’t great but it is capable of stringing drives together.

 

my question to you is, do you see the D having a let down after leaving it all on the field Monday and still not coming away with the W? 

It is hard to say. I don’t think they really play that way. I think they get up for every game. But if they don’t have the right game plan they can get exploited. And it’s not pretty. But the effort is always there. Imo. 

 

It will really suck if Edmunds is out. We will need a spy on Mitchell.

[Rc2catch]

Similar to the chiefs offensively in my opinion. 

The bears offense is scheme specific. Don’t get fooled by all the motions and shifts. Spy the QB and try to watch Cohen on the passing game and they are not very good. 

From the few quarters I’ve watched them they can’t just line up and make plays. Has to be lots of shifts and trickerations to confuse the defense and free guys up. Unlike the chiefs though they don’t have as many formations and weapons to do it a full game 

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, Commonsense said:

Bills D would destroy Trubisky if starts doing that stop and start running baloney he did against NE. That was a poor effort by NE. I don’t see the Polish Hammer doing much of that Sunday.

Our front 7 is not that good.. and I’m being nice.. lol that said he can run.

[keepthefaith]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are 4-3 and have looked a bit uneven this year but in general have a really good defense. They lost to Osweiler but have really good stats. Their D kind of reminds me of the Bills. Obviously we all know about Mack , though he’s been hobbled lately. They just lost their best OL Kyle Long for 6-8 weeks which could be interesting. But they have a lot of weapons - Tarik Cohen, Jordan Howard, ARob, Anthony Miller, Trey Burton. Trubisky can hurt you with his feet and in one of their games threw 6 TDs. But i watched them vs the Jets and their offense was nothing to speak of. They kind of remind me of the titans.

 

anyone watch them a lot and have insight? Save the “it doesn’t matter” comments ... it’s still football season for those who want to discuss the opponent/ matchup.

 

Very strong running game with Howard, Cohen and Trubisky.  Cohen is a big play guy run and pass.   Trubisky will make errant throws so maybe some pick opportunities for Bills defense.  OL Kyle long hurt and not playing so they have a hole to fill there.  Mack probably won't play or won't play full time as he's still getting healthy.  Even without him their D is quite good.  Hicks on DL is a beast. 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

You covered it pretty well. Nagy will try and use Cohen to slow punish an aggressive Buffalo D. Howard hasn’t looked great this year, he did shake off some rust at the end of the Jets games. Showed a little wiggle and had his longest run of the season. (20 something yards)

 

Arob sat out last week, he is also hurt. I don’t think Mack plays this week. 

Wasn’t Miller hurt too? Thought he was going to need shoulder surgery but seems to be playing through it

1 minute ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Very strong running game with Howard, Cohen and Trubisky.  Cohen is a big play guy run and pass.   Trubisky will make errant throws so maybe some pick opportunities for Bills defense.  OL Kyle long hurt and not playing so they have a hole to fill there.  Mack probably won't play or won't play full time as he's still getting healthy.  Even without him their D is quite good.  Hicks on DL is a beast. 

 

 

I believe I saw they have 17 takeaways. They are looking at Nate like a bag of Halloween candy. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are 4-3 and have looked a bit uneven this year but in general have a really good defense. They lost to Osweiler but have really good stats. Their D kind of reminds me of the Bills. Obviously we all know about Mack , though he’s been hobbled lately. They just lost their best OL Kyle Long for 6-8 weeks which could be interesting. But they have a lot of weapons - Tarik Cohen, Jordan Howard, ARob, Anthony Miller, Trey Burton. Trubisky can hurt you with his feet and in one of their games threw 6 TDs. But i watched them vs the Jets and their offense was nothing to speak of. They kind of remind me of the titans.

 

anyone watch them a lot and have insight? Save the “it doesn’t matter” comments ... it’s still football season for those who want to discuss the opponent/ matchup.

Muzak to my ears.   

[MJS]

I think if Mack doesn't play the Bills could make it interesting, but the Bills will have to put up more than 10 points to do so.

 

If Edmunds is out for the Bills, I think the defense will have trouble. Although Edmunds is a rookie and makes plenty of mistakes out there, I don't think anyone on the team can step up and replace his raw size, athleticism, and instincts.

 

And of course, any Peterman led offense is going to have defenders sitting on and jumping routes with the hopes of easy picks. I would HOPE that they don't call a single passing play outside the numbers, because that is a pick 6 waiting to happen. However, there could be opportunities with WR's faking the out and then turning up field. With a pump fake from Peterman, every DB in the league will try to jump the route. Could be a big gain. Similar to the fake screen against the Vikings.

[Chuck Wagon]

Defense has been prone to giving up big plays, but we aren't exactly equipped to take advantage of that.

 

Robinson missed the Jets game, not sure if he'll be back.  I don't have high hopes.

[Willyville Guy]

I live in Chicago and hear three common refrains:

 

1. Howard is awesome and badly underused by the coaching staff.  Fans here want to protect Mitch by emphasising the run.  The Bears often do the opposite.

 

2. Mack's health is more important than any remaining game in 2018. It would be fine with most fans here if the Bears put him on the shelf because nobody is seriously thinking about a championship this year, but they are for next year.

 

3. Cohen is very quick and makes plays when he gets the ball on the edge or in space. 

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Willyville Guy said:

I live in Chicago and hear three common refrains:

 

1. Howard is awesome and badly underused by the coaching staff.  Fans here want to protect Mitch by emphasising the run.  The Bears often do the opposite.

 

2. Mack's health is more important than any remaining game in 2018. It would be fine with most fans here if the Bears put him on the shelf because nobody is seriously thinking about a championship this year, but they are for next year.

 

3. Cohen is very quick and makes plays when he gets the ball on the edge or in space. 

Even at 4-3? Is he that hurt?

[Willyville Guy]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Even at 4-3? Is he that hurt?

 

The sense is that even at 80% he's good but not special, and they need him to be special to accomplish their goals.

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said:

 

The sense is that even at 80% he's good but not special, and they need him to be special to accomplish their goals.

I wonder if the Chargers have that same thought re: Joey Bosa. Interesting. 

[Fadingpain]

I have seen them play and thought Trubisky looked pretty good.  D is their strength no doubt.

 

They have blossomed into a good team in a short period of time and I would put them in the "better" group of teams we have played so far this year.  

 

Should be a rough day.

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

It would not surprise me to see the Bills D have a let down game.

They put everything into the Pats* game and the horrid O play has got to be dragging on them.

 

If the O does nothing in the 1st quarter it could get bad fast.

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, ColoradoBills said:

It would not surprise me to see the Bills D have a let down game.

They put everything into the Pats* game and the horrid O play has got to be dragging on them.

 

If the O does nothing in the 1st quarter it could get bad fast.

I don’t think they will approach it that way, but agree they could lose their spirit quickly.

[Misterbluesky]

43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are 4-3 and have looked a bit uneven this year but in general have a really good defense. They lost to Osweiler but have really good stats. Their D kind of reminds me of the Bills. Obviously we all know about Mack , though he’s been hobbled lately. They just lost their best OL Kyle Long for 6-8 weeks which could be interesting. But they have a lot of weapons - Tarik Cohen, Jordan Howard, ARob, Anthony Miller, Trey Burton. Trubisky can hurt you with his feet and in one of their games threw 6 TDs. But i watched them vs the Jets and their offense was nothing to speak of. They kind of remind me of the titans.

 

anyone watch them a lot and have insight? Save the “it doesn’t matter” comments ... it’s still football season for those who want to discuss the opponent/ matchup.

If this isn't the week that McDermott and Frazier don't use the word "blitz" in their weekly pre game meetings....then they are clueless.Rattle Trubisky early,when he gets nervous he sails balls...which means picks.This is a winnable game IMO.

Weather- High 50's...mix of sun/clouds.No rain or wind.

[Soda Popinski]

Can we bring Fred Jackson back for just one game to get that stiff arm going? 

[Misterbluesky]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

It would not surprise me to see the Bills D have a let down game.

They put everything into the Pats* game and the horrid O play has got to be dragging on them.

 

If the O does nothing in the 1st quarter it could get bad fast.

I'll bet the Bears don't score more than 16/17 points.

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t think they will approach it that way, but agree they could lose their spirit quickly.

 

Don't get me wrong, I expect them to come out fighting again.

It will be up to Peterman (probably) to keep them pumped up and give them hope.

I just don't think that is likely.

[Soda Popinski]

Trubisky will take off and run much like Allen, so hopefully they are well ready for him.   I think they will try to run the ball early and often.   But Nagy could get creative.  He knows if he gets a couple of easy scores we will have to let Peterman throw the ball.  That's not a good thing.  

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I live in Chicago and watch them when the Bills game is not conflicting. If I know the Bears they will try and win this game by running the ball and playing defense. I think we have a better defense then the Bears but it is close. Their O-Line is below average but not nearly as bad as ours. Trubiski has no touch on his passes and they are probably only using 60% of the play book. I expect to see a lot of go and comeback routes and they will try and establish a run game. If Allen was starting I think this game is a coin toss.

[YoloinOhio]

 

Sounds like both Robinson and Mack could be out 

[Steptide]

I actually think the bears will struggle this game. I see this being more like the houston game, hopefully no pick 6 though, unless the bills get it

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I actually think the bears will struggle this game. I see this being more like the houston game, hopefully no pick 6 though, unless the bills get it

Or Tennessee... mariota and Trubisky are similar 

 

I was trying to remember the last time the Bills got a pick 6. I think it was a Poyer at foxboro last year on xmas eve?

Edited November 1, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[corta765]

So the Bears offense as many have said they do a lot of motion to try and confuse defenses but once the play starts its very straightforward. When the plays go as scripted they can have success as Nagy has shown this season and previously with KC. The key though is just to not buy into motion and not over pursue out of your lanes. Trubisky really struggles if their are tight windows and he can't move around. Like others have said spy him heavily and just play frankly the way the defense has was a their scheme being straightforward.

 

Their defense is really good although Mack's ankle helps a bit and their secondary is not a strength the way ours is. As others have said this could be a game similar to the Titans where its a tight slugfest. Unfortunately not having Allen whose mobility allowed the Bills to get a few mismatches or chances for him to run will probably be the difference in my eyes.

[JerseyBills]

20 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

They are 4-3 and have looked a bit uneven this year but in general have a really good defense. They lost to Osweiler but have really good stats. Their D kind of reminds me of the Bills. Obviously we all know about Mack , though he’s been hobbled lately. They just lost their best OL Kyle Long for 6-8 weeks which could be interesting. But they have a lot of weapons - Tarik Cohen, Jordan Howard, ARob, Anthony Miller, Trey Burton. Trubisky can hurt you with his feet and in one of their games threw 6 TDs. But i watched them vs the Jets and their offense was nothing to speak of. They kind of remind me of the titans.

 

anyone watch them a lot and have insight? Save the “it doesn’t matter” comments ... it’s still football season for those who want to discuss the opponent/ matchup.

They remind me of Buffalo in that they are extremely inconsistent. I'd be surprised if Trubisky goes off , before and after the 6 TD game , he has looked brutal at times. Chicago fans were calling for his head before that 6 TD game . He hasn't shown much progress since his rookie year. Their D is good , but not very good  .

Winnable game for sure,  but I have absolutely no faith in our offense at the moment. Forget 20+ points, I'm not sure they can put up 10+ points.. 

[corta765]

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

They remind me of Buffalo in that they are extremely inconsistent. I'd be surprised if Trubisky goes off , before and after the 6 TD game , he has looked brutal at times. Chicago fans were calling for his head before that 6 TD game . He hasn't shown much progress since his rookie year. Their D is good , but not very good  .

Winnable game for sure,  but I have absolutely no faith in our offense at the moment. Forget 20+ points, I'm not sure they can put up 10+ points.. 

 

The 6 TD was kind of perfect situation. Trubisky started with good field position a bunch, had a good day, and played a Bucs defense I routinely pick QBs in fantasy to play against because they are so porous. Trubisky played well and not taking that away from him, but it was a very circumstantial type game in my eyes not standard for him early on.

[BuffaloHokie13]

20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Or Tennessee... mariota and Trubisky are similar 

 

I was trying to remember the last time the Bills got a pick 6. I think it was a Poyer at foxboro last year on xmas eve?

Oddly enough, so far this year I have Trubisky top 10 and Mariota bottom 3 (for starters)

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Oddly enough, so far this year I have Trubisky top 10 and Mariota bottom 3 (for starters)

I just meant in terms of style, both are mobile and don’t have huge arms 

[row_33]

31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I just meant in terms of style, both are mobile and don’t have huge arms 

 

If the Bears get a lucky break to take the lead, they will shut it down and grind out the clock immediately

 

[billieve420]

I think the Bills emptied the tanks for MNF against the Pats. I expect the Bears to roll in this one.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I had a dream Nate had 6 TD's    

 

 

I need to stop eating taco's at 10 PM 

[YoloinOhio]

Matt Nagy was calling plays in KC last year and from what I recall our defense shut them down ...McD may have a beat on his scheme which is just a chip off the Andy Reid scheme he knows well 

 

Also - though the Bears have a new HC this year, they kept Vic Fangio as DC. Barkley should be familiar with his defense as he was in Chicago in 2016, along with Fangio. That may help in the film room this week if nothing else. 

Edited November 1, 2018 by YoloinOhio