longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) We knew going into this season that this year was going to be a difficult year. There were many weak positions on the team that did not get addressed, (ie backup qb, offensive line, wide receivers, etc.) It is painful to watch the team that was a playoff team last year have at the very least an uneven performance level from week to week. It is even more painful to witness the ineptitude of this team during the all too frequent ugly one sided drubbings. At this point, our expectations are low for the balance of the season. But prior to the start of the season, many on this board were saying that if we won 4-5 games, and Allen showed improvement, it would be considered a successful season. The expectation was that we would retool next year and start to be more competitive and move forward. Nothing that has happened today conflicts with that logical view we had the beginning of the season. I am as stressed as the majority of the Bills fans about what we have witnessed through 7 games this season. But I am going to take a more relaxed view and just have faith that the process will work and hope for the best. My feeling is that I will give McBeane through 2020 to prove they know what they are doing. After that, if the team is still a mess, then I believe we should move on and start over with a new management team. thoughts... Edited October 22, 2018 by longtimebillsfan 17 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) *Edit: OP originally had Mayer instead of maybe in the title. I'm not completely crazy. GIF is staying. Edited October 22, 2018 by fridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) Still trusting the process, eh? Edited October 22, 2018 by TheElectricCompany 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: We knew going into this season that this year was going to be a difficult year. There were many weak positions on the team that did not get addressed, (ie backup qb, offensive line, wide receivers, etc.) It is painful to watch the team that was a playoff team last year have at the very least an uneven performance level from week to week. It is even more painful to witness the ineptitude of this team during the all too frequent ugly one sided drubbings. At this point, our expectations are low for the balance of the season. But prior to the start of the season, many on this board were saying that if we won 4-5 games, and Allen showed improvement, it would be considered a successful season. The expectation was that we would retool next year and start to be more competitive and move forward. Nothing that has happened today conflicts with that logical view we had the beginning of the season. I am as stressed as the majority of the Bills fans about what we have witnessed through 7 games this season. But I am going to take a more relaxed view and just have faith that the process will work and hope for the best. My feeling is that I will give McBeane through 2020 to prove they know what they are doing. After that, if the team is still a mess, then I believe we should move on and start over with a new management team. thoughts... Exactly, too many babies around here 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Exactly, too many babies around here Far too many 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: We knew going into this season that this year was going to be a difficult year. There were many weak positions on the team that did not get addressed, (ie backup qb, offensive line, wide receivers, etc.) It is painful to watch the team that was a playoff team last year have at the very least an uneven performance level from week to week. It is even more painful to witness the ineptitude of this team during the all too frequent ugly one sided drubbings. At this point, our expectations are low for the balance of the season. But prior to the start of the season, many on this board were saying that if we won 4-5 games, and Allen showed improvement, it would be considered a successful season. The expectation was that we would retool next year and start to be more competitive and move forward. Nothing that has happened today conflicts with that logical view we had the beginning of the season. I am as stressed as the majority of the Bills fans about what we have witnessed through 7 games this season. But I am going to take a more relaxed view and just have faith that the process will work and hope for the best. My feeling is that I will give McBeane through 2020 to prove they know what they are doing. After that, if the team is still a mess, then I believe we should move on and start over with a new management team. thoughts... Bolded is what I thought coming into the season and still feel. If next year after retooling and our O is not performing like this year and we are still getting blown out my feeling on the 2020 season with this coaching staff and FO will change though. The next 1.5 years will tell us a lot. I pray that we have this thing straight, I don't want another 3-4 years of "rebuild". Edited October 22, 2018 by Real McCoy 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Its like ppl think you actually play well in a rebiulding year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Ough, here it is. The daily "relax" thread. Trust the 97 year plan that McDermott and Beane are masterminding. Eventually, just you wait, the Bills will be dominating the league.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 This looks more like a PRE-building year. I don’t see a whole ton building of ANYTHING going on right now. Do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Still trusting the process, eh? My faith in the process has been shaken, but we can not keep bailing o the GM/head coach every 2 to 3 years. I believe it is in our best interest to give McBeane every chance to succeed. 9 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Bolded is what I thought coming into the season and still feel. If next year after retooling and our O is not performing like this year and we are still getting blown out my feeling on the 2020 season with this coaching staff and FO will change though. The next 1.5 years will tell us a lot. I pray that we have this thing straight, I don't want another 3-4 years of "rebuild". I feel your pain and agree with you. 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: This looks more like a PRE-building year. I don’t see a whole ton building of ANYTHING going on right now. Do you? At least we will get out from under the dead money. you have to take positives out of this mess anywhere you can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 The years over now. No reason to be upset for the rest of the season. Plenty to be worried about going forward though. I’m ready for some firings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Still trusting the process, eh? This is the problem. Year 1 our coach took a horribly depleted team to the playoffs. Year 2 we cut even more cancer out of the team and had to deal with a ridiculous amount of dead cap. Zero talent on the team. What was the expectation? And that's it. Everybody is done with "the process" because we're not Super Bowl contenders. How exactly did you guys expect this all to play out? Immediate back to back playoff years with zero talent and inheriting horrible contracts? Edited October 22, 2018 by Rigotz 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: We knew going into this season that this year was going to be a difficult year. There were many weak positions on the team that did not get addressed, (ie backup qb, offensive line, wide receivers, etc.) It is painful to watch the team that was a playoff team last year have at the very least an uneven performance level from week to week. It is even more painful to witness the ineptitude of this team during the all too frequent ugly one sided drubbings. At this point, our expectations are low for the balance of the season. But prior to the start of the season, many on this board were saying that if we won 4-5 games, and Allen showed improvement, it would be considered a successful season. The expectation was that we would retool next year and start to be more competitive and move forward. Nothing that has happened today conflicts with that logical view we had the beginning of the season. I am as stressed as the majority of the Bills fans about what we have witnessed through 7 games this season. But I am going to take a more relaxed view and just have faith that the process will work and hope for the best. My feeling is that I will give McBeane through 2020 to prove they know what they are doing. After that, if the team is still a mess, then I believe we should move on and start over with a new management team. thoughts... Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 How is a game ... a game that complete strangers are playing ... stressful? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 It's not necessarily the losses that are disturbing as it is the one-sided drubbings where the defense was out schemed such as by the Colts, Ravens, and Chargers. That wasn't supposed to happen and indicates that the defensive coaching staff is unprepared. Allen is a rookie and the offense is devoid of talent, so while frustrating, isn't too surprising. I was just hoping that the losses would be a little more competitive, aside from the Texan game where we were Petermaned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gugny said: How is a game ... a game that complete strangers are playing ... stressful? That is the disease of fandom . The irrational emotional bond to a team with your city's name on their jersey. I agree, it makes no rational sense, but I have been afflicted with you most of my life. Read the posting during Bills games on this board. That is real stress. Do you charge by the hour or by the visit. Doctor, please help me... 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: It's not necessarily the losses that are disturbing as it is the one-sided drubbings where the defense was out schemed such as by the Colts, Ravens, and Chargers. That wasn't supposed to happen and indicates that the defensive coaching staff is unprepared. Allen is a rookie and the offense is devoid of talent, so while frustrating, isn't too surprising. I was just hoping that the losses would be a little more competitive, aside from the Texan game where we were Petermaned. Agreed. When we get dominated in all phases of the game...there is no excuse. Nice, I like your use of Nate's name as a verb. Edited October 22, 2018 by longtimebillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I’d tend to agree, however, we’re getting thoroughly embarrassed in our losses. Like, they’re over by the middle of the 3rd quarter. This team has regressed in all three areas of the game (most notably Offense and Special Teams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 When you get blown out, I mean totally dominated in all 3 phases of by a 1-5 team, you're going to have people come on here and completely lose their **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, longtimebillsfan said: That is the disease of fandom . The irrational emotional bond to a team with your city's name on their jersey. I agree, it makes no rational sense, but I have been afflicted with you mot of my life. Read the posting during Bills games on this board. that is real stress. Do you charge by the hour or by the visit. Doctor, please help me... I am Pro Chaz Bono, so don't worry about paying me. Perhaps it's because I'm not a Buffalonian, I don't know. I will admit that the rare occasions during which the Mets field a contending team that I feel some stress during post-season. But I don't live in NYC, either. I'll feel stress during Bills games when the games matter. Until then, I enjoy the wins and shake my head at the losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, RiotAct said: I’d tend to agree, however, we’re getting thoroughly embarrassed in our losses. Like, they’re over by the middle of the 3rd quarter. This team has regressed in all three areas of the game (most notably Offense and Special Teams). Try doing what I do. I slept throught most of the game after the 1st quarter Sunday. I would wake up occasionally to a terrible play and then fall back asleep. I would highly recommend this technique in watching Bills games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fadingpain Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 46 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: We knew going into this season that this year was going to be a difficult year. There were many weak positions on the team that did not get addressed, (ie backup qb, offensive line, wide receivers, etc.) It is painful to watch the team that was a playoff team last year have at the very least an uneven performance level from week to week. It is even more painful to witness the ineptitude of this team during the all too frequent ugly one sided drubbings. At this point, our expectations are low for the balance of the season. But prior to the start of the season, many on this board were saying that if we won 4-5 games, and Allen showed improvement, it would be considered a successful season. The expectation was that we would retool next year and start to be more competitive and move forward. Nothing that has happened today conflicts with that logical view we had the beginning of the season. I am as stressed as the majority of the Bills fans about what we have witnessed through 7 games this season. But I am going to take a more relaxed view and just have faith that the process will work and hope for the best. My feeling is that I will give McBeane through 2020 to prove they know what they are doing. After that, if the team is still a mess, then I believe we should move on and start over with a new management team. thoughts... You might give them through 2020 but I highly doubt our owner does. I think next year will be their last, commensurate with Allen being declared a failure as a draft pick. Don't think they can survive Allen busting, and I don't think they'll get another shot at a new QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The years over now. No reason to be upset for the rest of the season. Plenty to be worried about going forward though. I’m ready for some firings That worked so well in the past. Fire everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I am Pro Chaz Bono, so don't worry about paying me. Perhaps it's because I'm not a Buffalonian, I don't know. I will admit that the rare occasions during which the Mets field a contending team that I feel some stress during post-season. But I don't live in NYC, either. I'll feel stress during Bills games when the games matter. Until then, I enjoy the wins and shake my head at the losses. Not a bad way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: It's not necessarily the losses that are disturbing as it is the one-sided drubbings where the defense was out schemed such as by the Colts, Ravens, and Chargers. That wasn't supposed to happen and indicates that the defensive coaching staff is unprepared. Allen is a rookie and the offense is devoid of talent, so while frustrating, isn't too surprising. I was just hoping that the losses would be a little more competitive, aside from the Texan game where we were Petermaned. You mean the tenth, fouth, and third-best offenses in the league beat us? Say it aint so! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, longtimebillsfan said: Not a bad way to go. Oh ... and drink. I drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Fadingpain said: You might give them through 2020 but I highly doubt our owner does. I think next year will be their last, commensurate with Allen being declared a failure as a draft pick. Don't think they can survive Allen busting, and I don't think they'll get another shot at a new QB. I hope you are wrong, but this could be our reality. If this happens, our time table for experiencing success will move back another 3-4 years. When will the pain stop??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 This has been the most stress free season i've ever had as a Bills fan. We got one of the big 4 QBs in the draft and i didn't expect us to be good at all. Wins are great, losses are expected. no problem. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: That worked so well in the past. Fire everyone! I mean, we should just keep people that suck at their jobs then? Just so we don’t fire people again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 One rebuilding year is fine... A rebuilding year after making the playoffs for the first time in almost 20 years seems a bit backwards... besides, I’ve seen nothing from this current coach/GM to inspire any confidence that this current “rebuild” is actually going to lead this team anywhere except back to drawing the board to come up with blue prints for the next architectural makeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Jasovon said: This has been the most stress free season i've ever had as a Bills fan. We got one of the big 4 QBs in the draft and i didn't expect us to be good at all. Wins are great, losses are expected. no problem. You are actually keeping things in perspective! What is your secret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RiotAct Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: Try doing what I do. I slept throught most of the game after the 1st quarter Sunday. I would wake up occasionally to a terrible play and then fall back asleep. I would highly recommend this technique in watching Bills games this year. I may have to try that... hey why don’t modern TVs have Picture-In-Picture?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: You might give them through 2020 but I highly doubt our owner does. I think next year will be their last, commensurate with Allen being declared a failure as a draft pick. Don't think they can survive Allen busting, and I don't think they'll get another shot at a new QB. I am wondering what your shill will be when Allen does in fact not bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: I am wondering what your shill will be when Allen does in fact not bust. Bring back EJ and JP and let them battle it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: You are actually keeping things in perspective! What is your secret? My son was born in January, to be honest it puts football in perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, ThunderGun said: One rebuilding year is fine... A rebuilding year after making the playoffs for the first time in almost 20 years seems a bit backwards... besides, I’ve seen nothing from this current coach/GM to inspire any confidence that this current “rebuild” is actually going to lead this team anywhere except back to drawing the board to come up with blue prints for the next architectural makeover. Who is to say that a rebuild is a one year process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I mean, we should just keep people that suck at their jobs then? Just so we don’t fire people again? Ever been to the DMV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderGun Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Who is to say that a rebuild is a one year process? It should be in the current NFL. Anything less would be unacceptable. With the cap room and draft capital they have next year, any competent GM and coach would have this team winning football games next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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