Billsfan1972 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) This has come up more then once with the Bills and how they assess players, their families and also their faith. Since when does being a good Christian (I doubt Muslim, Jewish, or other faith) matter with respect to being a football player. Yes a a Good Person matters, but religion & being religious????? Edited October 17, 2018 by Billsfan1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 This stuff has no basis in fact and needs to stop. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) this is so overblown it's not funny. Edited October 17, 2018 by teef 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 AJ Mccarron is a devout Christian and he’s better than Peterman and he was traded... its more than that... Peterman has the dirt on McDermott ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: AJ Mccarron is a devout Christian and he’s better than Peterman and he was traded... its more than that... Peterman has the dirt on McDermott ? We should start a thread with rumors we have heard as to what that dirt is. That could be a lot of fun in the midst of an otherwise garbage season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Fadingpain said: We should start a thread with rumors we have heard as to what that dirt is. That could be a lot of fun in the midst of an otherwise garbage season. that actually could end up pretty entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 religion/politics best left out of football discussion. some have nothing to do with either. it's best to keep your beliefs or non beliefs for that matter to yourself. that includes coach and his choir boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 So nobody thinks Rosen's "personality" had any bearing on their decision? I beg to differ. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Having faith is fine, but the lack of talent is something altogether different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: So nobody thinks Rosen's "personality" had any bearing on their decision? I beg to differ. rosen is a satanist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, teef said: rosen is a satanist? Worse! He's a liberal! 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, teef said: rosen is a satanist? Nope, just an anti-Christ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) Rosen is a bottom ***** and McD is a power bottom, they just aren’t compatible. Allen is a power top. Peterman is versatile, which is why he has hung around this long. Edited October 17, 2018 by Troll Toll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 Sorry McDermott has brought this up a number of times. It is an issue and does bother me that it is an important part of the decision process at 1 Bills drive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Sorry McDermott has brought this up a number of times. It is an issue and does bother me that it is an important part of the decision process at 1 Bills drive. Show me where he has said that a player has to share his faith to be in the roster. One quote, one statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) If you have the capability to believe in God (the Judeo-Christian God, not the God of the Winds or whatever pagan deity you can think of) then you can believe in the Process. Edited October 17, 2018 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbills Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Why does this even matter? Religion should not conflict with sports and in this case more than likely doesn't. That being said there's nothing wrong with being religious and incorporating it into your daily life, everyone is different and if it helps Peterman get through rough times then all the power to him. How's this any different from any other players praising god after their performance on Sundays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, paulbills said: Why does this even matter? Religion should not conflict with sports and in this case more than likely doesn't. That being said there's nothing wrong with being religious and incorporating it into your daily life, everyone is different and if it helps Peterman get through rough times then all the power to him. How's this any different from any other players praising god after their performance on Sundays? Thank you. It's not and no different than any worker in any field of endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: So nobody thinks Rosen's "personality" had any bearing on their decision? I beg to differ. of course it did, just like any decision for the face of you franchise. Has nothing to do with his religious affiliation. Edited October 17, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Show me where he has said that a player has to share his faith to be in the roster. One quote, one statement. I heard it somewhere. I can't recall now. You'll just have to take it on faith. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, teef said: rosen is a satanist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Show me where he has said that a player has to share his faith to be in the roster. One quote, one statement. 1. Why would he ever publicly admit he’s going to discriminate based on religion? 2. Prove us otherwise. Why would the article leading up to the season featuring Peterman be based on him being a good Christian man and family man? The article was him crediting God and proclaiming how ready he is for the job because his strength in his faith. Yeah, makes no sense to me either. Also you seem to be, of all the posters here, the only one with a hard on against this theory. Old guy, Pegula ***** introduced the man at his press conference last year as a family man and a man of faith. What the holy ***** does that have to do with football? Nothing. It’s declaring your intentions tho when you’re announcing how important religion was in your search for a HC. And McD references that stupid belief crap so much I wonder how often he offers to baptize his team? He reminds me of my born-again uncle. Edit: your response better be gold. I’m expecting a good laugh Edited October 17, 2018 by Gigs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, cba fan said: of course it did, just like any decision for the face of you franchise. Has nothing to do with his religious affiliation. I doubt it was strictly religious affiliation, but I think his politics/atheism played a role. That's a problem IMO and it could very well be the decision that ends McBeane's tenure in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Maybe it’s because of his hard work ethic and determination to succeed and really has nothing to do with his faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gigs said: 1. Why would he ever publicly admit he’s going to discriminate based on religion? 2. Prove us otherwise. Why would the article leading up to the season featuring Peterman be based on him being a good Christian man and family man? The article was him crediting God and proclaiming how ready he is for the job because his strength in his faith. Yeah, makes no sense to me either. Also you seem to be, of all the posters here, the only one with a hard on against this theory. Old guy, Pegula ***** introduced the man at his press conference last year as a family man and a man of faith. What the holy ***** does that have to do with football? Nothing. It’s declaring your intentions tho when you’re announcing how important religion was in your search for a HC. And McD references that stupid belief crap so much I wonder how often he offers to baptize his team? He reminds me of my born-again uncle. Edit: your response better be gold. I’m expecting a good laugh “Prove my ***** dumb claim is incorrect” the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 There is no process you guys. It is basically the middle finger telling all of the fans and media to leave them the eff alone. I hate everyone equally. Does that make me a hateist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Gigs said: 1. Why would he ever publicly admit he’s going to discriminate based on religion? 2. Prove us otherwise. Why would the article leading up to the season featuring Peterman be based on him being a good Christian man and family man? The article was him crediting God and proclaiming how ready he is for the job because his strength in his faith. Yeah, makes no sense to me either. Also you seem to be, of all the posters here, the only one with a hard on against this theory. Old guy, Pegula ***** introduced the man at his press conference last year as a family man and a man of faith. What the holy ***** does that have to do with football? Nothing. It’s declaring your intentions tho when you’re announcing how important religion was in your search for a HC. And McD references that stupid belief crap so much I wonder how often he offers to baptize his team? He reminds me of my born-again uncle. I fin't have to prove a damn thing. You guys make ridiculous accusation, you prove them. Show me one quote where hecsaid a guy's faith impacts his spot on the roster. It upsets me because I am a man of faith as well. And because McD has done a pretty good job getting a lot out of the team, especially last year, but people go out of their way to trash him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I doubt it was strictly religious affiliation, but I think his politics/atheism played a role. That's a problem IMO and it could very well be the decision that ends McBeane's tenure in Buffalo. You have literally ZERO factual basis for that post. None. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: AJ Mccarron is a devout Christian and he’s better than Peterman and he was traded... its more than that... Peterman has the dirt on McDermott ? Because he was drafted by McBeane and coaches/GMs never want to admit their mistakes on drafting, even for 5th rd QBs. That's why they've given him every possibility to succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Sorry McDermott has brought this up a number of times. It is an issue and does bother me that it is an important part of the decision process at 1 Bills drive. Quote where he said you have to be Christian. I'll wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Theres no link because it's never been said. Or implied. I dont even thing McD is religious, is he? Either way, god is dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: This has come up more then once with the Bills and how they assess players, their families and also their faith. Since when does being a good Christian (I doubt Muslim, Jewish, or other faith) matter with respect to being a football player. Yes a a Good Person matters, but religion & being religious????? How does this speculation add ANYTHING productive towards healthy football discussion? I am amazed mods let this troll bait of a topic continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Do we need to get Joel Osteen on here to settle this madness? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: How does this speculation add ANYTHING productive towards healthy football discussion? I am amazed mods let this troll bait of a topic continue. Seriously? Did you report it as inappropriate? It was posted 42 minutes ago. Is it your assumption that this is our full time job, reading each and every post - casting judgment upon them - in real-time? Talk about amazing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: So nobody thinks Rosen's "personality" had any bearing on their decision? I beg to differ. That's no different than any other job interview in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Quote where he said you have to be Christian. I'll wait. That's dumb. You know that's not even possible. You're just arguing to argue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Honestly I've wondered this myself. They loyalty shown is so over the top I wonder if religion plays a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, SDS said: That's dumb. You know that's not even possible. You're just arguing to argue. It's not possible because it doesn't exist. But you have people here arguing that it not only does, it's a primary informer of their personnel decisions. People make a claim, I demand proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I remember a time when football was about wins, losses and rooting for your team and booing your rival. These days, sports encompass everything from political divides, religion, current events and socioeconomic issues. Football used to be the place where you didn’t have to debate your belief or political stance. I wish we could get back to that kind of football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: AJ Mccarron is a devout Christian and he’s better than Peterman and he was traded... its more than that... Peterman has the dirt on McDermott ? Yeah, but I'm thinking he had a little premarital sex with the missus. You know what I'm saying...wink..wink.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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