BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 You may think this is just a complaint or a “hot take” but this is a serious gripe - long hair/dreds/locks/corn rows etc do nothing but invite defenders to pull you down quick or interfere with your ability to concentrate on the game. . Here’s the data: 1) Chris Ivory was yanked down and unable to pick up a first down (which he could have attained if he had shorter hair). As I recall, that was a drive we needed. 2) Clowney was neutralized in this game and, in fact, jumped off sides a few times probably because his hair may have been in the way. 3) Ray Ray McCloud has really nice hair - but it didn’t help him concentrate on the kickoff or the lost punt. 4) Kelvin Benjamin??? One major league catch and 20 other drops or slow routes. He fails to block for fear of messin’ up his hair (or so it seems). I’m at wits end. Draftees next year should have manageable hair so the players don’t have to worry about it. They should concentrate on football. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Admit it, you're follicly challenged, amirite? Edited October 15, 2018 by SinceThe70s 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 I have a full head of hair from left to right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Missed the thread titled “ long hair IS a strategic advantage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 That’s the first time I’ve seen a tackle off a strand of hair. i guess there’s a gentleman’s agreement not to reach for it more often? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: That’s the first time I’ve seen a tackle off a strand of hair. i guess there’s a gentleman’s agreement not to reach for it more often? If it wasn’t long that would have been a 1st down. No need for a gentleman’s agreement in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: I have a full head of hair from left to right. Impressive 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: If it wasn’t long that would have been a 1st down. No need for a gentleman’s agreement in the first place. Yup, but everyone does what they want and you have to agree they are superior to you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Totally agree with the OP. I mean think about it when do you ever see a hairy swimmer? A split second can mean a lot in that sport. Hair can slow you down. How come most basketball players are bald? I don’t think it’s because they’re all losing their hair. It’s cooler to run up and down the court, Full heads of hair can slow down Ivory per say a split second which can be the difference to hitting the holes. It also as the OP eludes to makes him easier to tackle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 If you can tackle by the hair and it's legal, can and offensive lineman grab a fistful of dreads while he's run blocking? I've always wondered that? I figured if they could, Belichick would have his guys doing it already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Any of you anti-dreadites ever hear of a dude named Samson? /dread? No, /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I can picture Joe Namath in dreads when he played in Los Angeles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 42 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Admit it, you're follicly challenged, amirite? I have great hair, but totally agree with the OP in this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, Idandria said: I have great hair, but totally agree with the OP in this. Long hair is cool on some guys, but it has no place in this game. Huge distraction. I’d wager to say there isn’t one “Hall of Fame” type player that had to muss with their hair in between plays (except for Sammy Watkins..he’ll be HOF first ballot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Long hair is cool on some guys, but it has no place in this game. Huge distraction. I’d wager to say there isn’t one “Hall of Fame” type player that had to muss with their hair in between plays (except for Sammy Watkins..he’ll be HOF first ballot) troy polomalu? kevin greene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 51 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: You may think this is just a complaint or a “hot take” but this is a serious gripe - long hair/dreds/locks/corn rows etc do nothing but invite defenders to pull you down quick or interfere with your ability to concentrate on the game. . Here’s the data: 1) Chris Ivory was yanked down and unable to pick up a first down (which he could have attained if he had shorter hair). As I recall, that was a drive we needed. 2) Clowney was neutralized in this game and, in fact, jumped off sides a few times probably because his hair may have been in the way. 3) Ray Ray McCloud has really nice hair - but it didn’t help him concentrate on the kickoff or the lost punt. 4) Kelvin Benjamin??? One major league catch and 20 other drops or slow routes. He fails to block for fear of messin’ up his hair (or so it seems). I’m at wits end. Draftees next year should have manageable hair so the players don’t have to worry about it. They should concentrate on football. Listen here, Delilah, put down the scissors and back slowly and quietly from Ivory’s bedroom. Ultimately, you’ll get no love from the Philistines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Your Brown Eye said: troy polomalu? kevin greene? And on offense you would suggest?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: And on offense you would suggest?? Larry Fitzgerald Marshawn Lynch Todd Gurley (leads the league in rushing) Melvin Gordon is pretty good Edited October 15, 2018 by Drunken Pygmy Goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Don’t offer an extra handle. Hell, they wear tight jerseys and silicon them to be “ungrabable’, then offer up an easy chord to grab? Edited October 15, 2018 by Augie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: Larry Fitzgerald Todd Gurley (leads the league in rushing) Taller guys at WR can’t handle longer hair. Too much weight. As for Gurley, I had him on fantasy three years ago and he was a bust. Not a HOFer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Idandria said: I have great hair, but totally agree with the OP in this. OP makes some good points. No doubt a crucial first down was lost due to Ivory's glorious mane. But Ray Ray muffed a punt because he wasn't able to concentrate due to his well-maintained coiffure? That's really splitting hairs. On the contrary, his pre-game attention to tonsorial resplendence should have allowed him to concentrate fully on his in-game punt catching responsibilities. Now if you want to argue that residual hair product on his hands impacted his ability to secure the catch I'm willing to consider that aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said: OP makes some good points. No doubt a crucial first down was lost due to Ivory's glorious mane. But Ray Ray muffed a punt because he wasn't able to concentrate due to his well-maintained coiffure? That's really splitting hairs. On the contrary, his pre-game attention to tonsorial resplendence should have allowed him to concentrate fully on his in-game punt catching responsibilities. Now if you want to argue that residual hair product on his hands impacted his ability to secure the catch I'm willing to consider that aspect. Hair products typically leave a “sticky” residue on the hands (mousse, hair gel)...that should have helped him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 The obvious solution is just don't have long hair sticking out to grab - but I don't understand why the horsecollar rule doesn't include hair - it has the same risk of injury (probably even more so) as yanking on the back of the pads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, stevewin said: The obvious solution is just don't have long hair sticking out to grab - but I don't understand why the horsecollar rule doesn't include hair - it has the same risk of injury (probably even more so) as yanking on the back of the pads It’s not part of the uniform. Let’s say a WR had a wooden leg and a CB tackled him and his leg came off. That isn’t a penalty. The WR chose to play with a wooden leg. Same idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Hair products typically leave a “sticky” residue on the hands (mousse, hair gel)...that should have helped him. So by "extension" you're refuting your own point. Ray Rays dreads should have resulted in sticky hands and had nothing to do with the muffed punt, likely just the opposite. I appreciate when posters can walk back from their original misguided premises. Maintaining anything else would be a bald-faced lie and I'd probably wig out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, BringBackFergy said: It’s not part of the uniform. Let’s say a WR had a wooden leg and a CB tackled him and his leg came off. That isn’t a penalty. The WR chose to play with a wooden leg. Same idea. I understand, but you can easily treat it as part of the uniform. The whole point of the horse collar rule is safety - to prevent injury from being hauled down from the back of the neck - the exact same injury risk exists when grabbing the hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 What’s next scratching the opponent to the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That just looks painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said: Any of you anti-dreadites ever hear of a dude named Samson? /dread? No, /thread More like he got Absalomed there 37 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: It’s not part of the uniform. Let’s say a WR had a wooden leg and a CB tackled him and his leg came off. That isn’t a penalty. The WR chose to play with a wooden leg. Same idea. That would be freaking awesome to see Edited October 15, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I've been thinking about this problem all day. On the one hand, we all know that the less you have down there, the longer you probably grow your hair. These extensions are clearly most widely employed by those who are phallically challenged. You make these guys cut their hair and you may take away what little virility they have. The virility goes and so does their confidence. Their confidence goes and there goes their game. So while short hair is more efficient and functional, it also means a timid, tame, torpid, team. I don't know how to reconcile this. I'm at my wit's split end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) My gray locks disagree... ?? Edited October 15, 2018 by Heitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Here’s my question, NFL Corporate... It’s perfectly legal for grown men to pull each other’s hair, but just look at Tommy boy the wrong way and it’s 15 yds..?! Deacon Jones called... he’s asking for your skirt size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I can just imagine losing a SB due to a hair tackle . I really have to stop imagining ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Keep the hair but put it inside your shirt for the love of God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Glad it isn’t overgrowth of middle-body hair on display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I dreaded that he would get pulled down by the hair. This is the Bills idea of locking up a player with an extension... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 8 hours ago, stevewin said: I understand, but you can easily treat it as part of the uniform. The whole point of the horse collar rule is safety - to prevent injury from being hauled down from the back of the neck - the exact same injury risk exists when grabbing the hair. Agreed. Honestly, from the first camera angle, I thought it was a horse collar. Then, when I didn´t see a flag, I realized that either the refs were entirely incompetent (which is always a distinct possibility) or more likely that he was dragged down by the long and straights. Either way, he was yanked pretty good and he snapped straight back. It was dangerous and probably painful. But, hey, it´s all good...at least you´re not allowed to land on a QB during the natural course of a tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 10 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Hair products typically leave a “sticky” residue on the hands (mousse, hair gel)...that should have helped him. In the 50s and 60s, they called it 'greasy kid stuff'. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Long hair is stupid for two positions, well 3 if some had it: RB, WR, and if it'd ever happen, QB. I was mentioning it to my sons and 5 minutes later Ivory gets pull down by the hair. For others, certainly not a "strategic advantage" but doesn't matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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