Happy Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 There's a reason why he turned out the way he did. Maybe not entirely his fault. Just sad. https://nypost.com/2018/10/14/aaron-hernandez-had-sexual-relationship-with-hs-quarterback/ "NFL-star-turned-killer Aaron Hernandez hid a longtime sexual relationship with his high-school quarterback, according to a new report that also said the troubled late footballer was physically and sexually abused as a youngster." "Hernandez, who committed suicide behind bars in 2017, after which rumors of homosexuality surfaced, “had a feminine way about him” that his father, Dennis Hernandez, abhorred, the paper said. The volatile dad was quick to discipline his son for not appearing masculine enough, according to Hernandez’s brother, Jonathan." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) I dont feel bad for him. Not one bit......and the fact that its from the NY Post makes me question how true the story is. Edited October 14, 2018 by RaoulDuke79 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 No, I feel bad for the people he killed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 !@#$ him. sucks he was that mentally ill to kill himself, but he should have faced his consequences and got what he deserved instead of taking the easy way out. i'm sure he was mentally ill for numerous reasons: sane people don't kill people, sane people don't kill themselves, and obviously he was deeply troubled. but, !@#$ him and the ny post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Read the recent bio on him, rough upbringing but not an excuse for what he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 It's sad what happened to him to make him the way he was. And I think he committed suicide because he knew he wasn't getting out of prison and so that his estate could keep the money from the Cheaters. Not sure if it worked but probably the sanest thing he'd done in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: "NFL-star-turned-killer Aaron Hernandez hid a longtime sexual relationship with his high-school quarterback, I thought you became a football star to bang hot chicks, not the quarterback?!? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I dont feel bad for him. Not one bit......and the fact that its from the NY Post makes me question how true the story is. I might be crazy but I feel some compassion towards the kid living through physical and sexual abuse even if I don’t think that lets the adult off the hook for the murders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Anyone that feels bad for a convicted murderer has serious issues, should probably see someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, bbb said: I thought you became a football star to bang hot chicks, not the quarterback?!? Depends on your orientation. Every lock room in the NFL surely has a few homosexuals in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 #AaronHernandezToo ??? Doesn't matter if scumbags abuse You, don't pass the scumbaggery on. Break the cycle. Even know it's from Will Smith and look how "brilliant" and "well adjusted" [ /smh ] His progeny turned out to be, I think this still holds true and can be revisited: "...Disrespect you and treat you badLet God deal with the things they do'Cause hate in your heart will consume you tooAlways tell the truth, say your prayers..." 6 hours ago, mrags said: Anyone that feels bad for a convicted murderer has serious issues, should probably see someone. Meta' di mezza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 His conduct was constantly papered over by Urban in Florida shoulda let him take the consequences and learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, row_33 said: His conduct was constantly papered over by Urban in Florida shoulda let him take the consequences and learn That seems to be Meyer's MO no matter where he is. Whitewash the terrible things and do whatever it takes to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 A horrible childhood does not excuse being a gang-banger murderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 13 hours ago, mrags said: Anyone that feels bad for a convicted murderer has serious issues, should probably see someone. Can't someone both (a) feel bad that horrible things were done to him and (b) believe that he is still responsible for his own actions? I mean that rhetorically; that's actually exactly how I feel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Depends on your orientation. Every lock room in the NFL surely has a few homosexuals in it. Shall I ask how you KNOW this (and not in the biblical sense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Can't someone both (a) feel bad that horrible things were done to him and (b) believe that he is still responsible for his own actions? I mean that rhetorically; that's actually exactly how I feel. This is where I'm at. I certainly feel for the victims and their families, which Hernandez is responsible for. The point is, life experiences shape who you are, for better or worse. Hernandez was a weak individual who could not overcome an abusive childhood. As BB described the situation - tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Can't someone both (a) feel bad that horrible things were done to him and (b) believe that he is still responsible for his own actions? I mean that rhetorically; that's actually exactly how I feel. That's how I feel as well. Statistically, being abused as a child isn't an excuse for criminal behavior as an adult so much as it's an explanation. It's one of the reasons I tend to be in favor of harsher punishments for convicted child abusers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Can't someone both (a) feel bad that horrible things were done to him and (b) believe that he is still responsible for his own actions? I mean that rhetorically; that's actually exactly how I feel. Yep. Of course! That's what I posted. In three words. Edited October 15, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) My mother was sexually abused as a child.. a little 5 year old girl she doesn’t complain and she certainly never snapped and became a killer... i feel sorry for his victims and their families. He made his decisions Edited October 15, 2018 by Buffalo716 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 The guy lived a very complex life. Too bad he spread his pain to others. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Dont care about a killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) So he was gay and depressed. Doesn’t make me feel bad for him. He was a murderer and a piece of garbage. Edited October 15, 2018 by joesixpack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 19 hours ago, NoSaint said: I might be crazy but I feel some compassion towards the kid living through physical and sexual abuse even if I don’t think that lets the adult off the hook for the murders. The word “excuse” has come up a lot. There is a never an excuse for murder, but there may be an explanation which helps to explain the tragedy, for EVERYBODY. Nobody would condone his actions, and he deserves the punishment he got, but I won’t presume to play the ultimate Judge on this. This is just sad in every possible way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Augie said: The word “excuse” has come up a lot. There is a never an excuse for murder, but there may be an explanation which helps to explain the tragedy, for EVERYBODY. Nobody would condone his actions, and he deserves the punishment he got, but I won’t presume to play the ultimate Judge on this. This is just sad in every possible way. Life is a complicated and sometimes ugly thing. Childhood sexual abuse can literally have major effects on how someone’s brain forms. It doesn’t excuse murder by any means but it could certainly fill in the confusion many had to the “why?” an nfl player with the world at his fingertips ran off the rails. Damage to the developing brain, plus terrible social structures creates an easy path into self medication... pair it all up with heavy doses of enabling and suddenly a 6’6 beast with poor brain regulation and a drug habit is surrounded with people chirping bad ideas in his ear and no accountability... anywhere along the way he could’ve stepped out of the cycle and he has to own his outcomes.... but things like finding out about abuse as a child certainly helps fill in some of the gaps of how thestory came together feel bad for the child, hold the man accountable and support the many victims left in his wake to help avoid future rounds of similar stories starting to be written Edited October 16, 2018 by NoSaint 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 He needed to be removed from society for his actions. We can leave his ultimate judgement to the big man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 10 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Can't someone both (a) feel bad that horrible things were done to him and (b) believe that he is still responsible for his own actions? I mean that rhetorically; that's actually exactly how I feel. A. Yes, one can B. Yes, one can C. However, usually when someone gives another a pass, or makes excuses for someone they aren’t guilty of murder or other terrible things. It’s not like he was dead broke and needed money and robbed a liquor store or stole a car or something. He murdered someone execution style and hid his crime. All while being a millionaire who had everything that anyone could want. He ruined multiple peoples lives including his own. Im happy he’s dead. I hope he suffered when he went. Too bad he didn’t do it sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 17 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Yep. Of course! That's what I posted. In three thousand words. You do have a way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 51 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: You do have a way. Have you ever met him? You'd be amazed. He's Kris Kristofferson meets Sam Elliot meets Bobcat Goldthwait (just speaks more clearly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Boyst62 said: Have you ever met him? You'd be amazed. He's Kris Kristofferson meets Sam Elliot meets Bobcat Goldthwait (just speaks more clearly) Of course. Have You ever met CC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Of course. Have You ever met CC? Yes. Other than that slight limp from the crippledness he makes it alright 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Sorry, dont feel bad at all. It sticks for him what he had to go through as a child, but we all have to make a choice to either sink to that level or use it to build yourself up from. He had the chance because of his abilities to play in the NFL and be set financially for life. He could have used his experiences to help others by using his position in the NFL to make others aware of abuse and that you can over come it. Instead be sunk to the criminal level and decided he would be a scum bag criminal and try to be some tough guy kingpin/drug lord. He didnt need the money, his NFL career gave him the chance to have millions legally. By doing the things he did he wiped out any kind of sympathy that anyone should have for someone who had gone through what he did as a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Yes. Other than that slight limp from the crippledness he makes it alright He he... At least I am the same person on the internet as in person. Truly wierd! I am not all catfishing You guys! Or should we say CrippleCreeking! LoL ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Do you feel bad for Charlie Manson too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said: Do you feel bad for Charlie Manson too? What made him so horribly sick? I don’t have an answer, only more questions. I’m glad he got the punishment he did, and the rest of us were protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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