If Anderson is physically able he should start next week

[RyanC883]

43 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

As of this moment (after Week 6 of the 2018 season), Josh Allen is the worst starting quarterback in the NFL.  And it's not even close.  The other rookies (Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen) all look light-years ahead of him. 

  

Allen wasn't ready in Week 2.  And a month later, he's still not even close to ready.  Instead of small improvements being made to his game, I personally think he's taking steps backwards.  His accuracy and mechanics are all over the place.  And they don't appear to be getting better.  It's one thing to be hesitant when progressing through reads.  But he even hesitates on quick slants.  His pocket presence is awful, and he consistently bails on clean protection instead of stepping up.

  

I'm not worried about the 2-4 record.  I'm not worried about him simply struggling.  I'm worried about whether our staff is doing the right thing by playing him right now.  Maybe he would be better off sitting the bench for awhile.  Maybe not.  I really don't know. 

  

What worries me the most, is that Sean McDermott doesn't seem to have a solid grasp on what to do either. 

 

 

I agree.  Allen needs to sit (like Mahomes did) and learn.  Mahomes was allegedly "raw" coming out of college--similar to Allen.   Let Anderson play and Allen can learn from a vet.  

 

Might also expose what WR's are worth keeping around next year or not.  

 

[sleeby]

13 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:

What does Jesus Christ have to do with it? Why would you randomly say that at the end of your response? Why not any other religious figure?

A visor and a mustache?  Jesus christ.  Ha.  Sorry.  Like, hey, if yer OK with this guy saying the names of other religion's figures then you'd best be OK with the random JC drop - at least he's still in the conversation, right?  Not yet obsolete like say, Zeus.  No such thing as bad publicity and all that 

Edited October 14, 2018 by sleeby

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Allen is not ready to play. He wasn’t supposed to play right away and now he is hurt. Allen is not going anywhere and no matter how much he continues to suck, he is going to get plenty of chances. The Bills never should have traded Mccarron but it’s to late to change that. Peterman is probably the worst qb in NFL history. For at least the next 4 or 5 weeks, please start Anderson.

 

The guy is a veteran that knows how to play NFL football. We have an excellent defense and there are player evaluations that need to take place. Before Allen got hurt today he had 84 yds passing. All of last week he had 82. The week before we were shut out 22-0 by a below average Defense. Allen is not ready to play. Please play Anderson until we are mathematically out of it. I wonder what these WRs might look like with a QB that understands how to orchestrate a professional passing game. There is no circumstance in existence where Nate Peterman can play another down for this team. Please name Anderson the starter for the next month or so and bring in another guy that can back up while Allen recovers. Allen is just learning bad habits and risking further more serious injuries. It’s not giving up on Allen. It’s allowing him to develop and learn behind the scenes. The place where he should have been all year anyway. Start Anderson and let’s see what we have in Dabol and the offense.

[Happy]

No, please don't.

[26CornerBlitz]

If Allen is healthy, he has to start.  Learn by doing!

[Best Player Available]

Starting Anderson will accomplish nothing. 

[RaoulDuke79]

Please stop.

[Boatdrinks]

Well no, don’t. If Allen can’t play due to injury thats one thing, but you can’t sit him down at this point. When that happens ( if it does), he’s finished as a Bill. He must fight through it, though it’s clear Daboll and the rest of the team aren’t up to bringing a young QB along. 

Edited October 14, 2018 by Boatdrinks

[Wayne Cubed]

Please no. Starting Anderson does nothing. He isn’t the future. I have no interest in the Bills winning with Anderson.

[GimmeSomeProcess]

Worst thread ever, you realize Anderson is not a better passer than Allen and offers nothing his legs. Starting Allen would be the worst thing for his development 

[Comebackkid]

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

As of this moment (after Week 6 of the 2018 season), Josh Allen is the worst starting quarterback in the NFL.  And it's not even close.  The other rookies (Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen) all look light-years ahead of him. 

 

Allen wasn't ready in Week 2.  And a month later, he's still not even close to ready.  Instead of small improvements being made to his game, I personally think he's taking steps backwards.  His accuracy and mechanics are all over the place.  And they don't appear to be getting better.  It's one thing to be hesitant when progressing through reads.  But he even hesitates on quick slants.  His pocket presence is awful, and he consistently bails on clean protection instead of stepping up.

 

I'm not worried about the 2-4 record.  I'm not worried about him simply struggling.  I'm worried about whether our staff is doing the right thing by playing him right now.  Maybe he would be better off sitting the bench for awhile.  Maybe not.  I really don't know. 

 

What worries me the most, is that Sean McDermott doesn't seem to have a solid grasp on what to do either. 

 

one word...Zanex.   

[Fadingpain]

Just now, Wayne Cubed said:

Please no. Starting Anderson does nothing. He isn’t the future. I have no interest in the Bills winning with Anderson.

The people who actually run the team have an interest in winning regardless of who the QB is.  And they have shown us that know how to royally screw up the QB position already.

 

I think Anderson will start games.  I said it several days ago and will continue to say it until it's obvious he won't.

 

I think it's a colossal mistake, but I think he will start.

 

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

If Allen is healthy, he has to start.  Learn by doing!

The best thing for everyone (including Josh Allen) is for him to sit. If anyone can be objective about this, this kid sucks right now. If this is what he is going to do for another 10 games, the Bills are probably going to look to replace him sooner then later. Playing him before he was ready might end up costing Allen a career. There’s no way this kid should be on the field right now and all that is going to come from this, is career altering bad habits. Sit Allen until he is ready and IMO 2019 is probably the earliest that will be. If we end up being out of it for the last 4 games, maybe put him back in. I would just pick up another qb and Redshirt Allen for the rest of the year but I wouldn’t expect the Bills to do that.

[Ray Finkel]

5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

If Allen is healthy, he has to start.  Learn by doing!

The defense is getting pissed.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 minute ago, GimmeSomeProcess said:

Worst thread ever, you realize Anderson is not a better passer than Allen and offers nothing his legs. Starting Allen would be the worst thing for his development 

Anderson is twice the passer that Allen is right now.

[boater]

Is there a new poster called SaviorAnderson?

 

Complete with high level business meetings?

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

2 minutes ago, boater said:

Is there a new poster called SaviorAnderson?

 

Complete with high level business meetings?

There are probably posters named “we drafted the wrong qb again” Although most of them were saying that before draft night. 

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, VW82 said:

We don't know the extent of Allen's elbow injury yet, but IMO it doesn't matter. This is a perfect opportunity for the Bills to pull him off the field for a few games and let him gain a little perspective. 

 

Prior to the injury, Allen was terrible today...again. He was just as likely to get injured running the ball along the sideline and getting drilled by that Houston LB in the first half when he chose not to run out of bounds. He missed multiple open receivers. On 3rd and goal, he ran out of the pocket when there was no pressure, and short sided himself with only one available receiver (Jones) who was covered. Allen didn't seem to understand Houston had a spy on him so he couldn't just run it in. We've seen him do this several times now, including preseason. 

 

Peterman's career in Buffalo is over whether he gets cut or not. 

 

It's still early, but Josh isn't getting better. He doesn't understand what's happening pre-snap. He has a tendency to run backwards at the slightest hint of pressure. He's frequently wildly inaccurate with his throws. He makes bad decisions.

 

Anderson isn't the perfect solution, but right now he's the best option short-term for the team, and long-term for Allen's development. The kid needs a breather. He needs to watch and learn.

while Allen recovers.

I'm assuming your post was written with the thinking that Allen is injured. If that's the case, I'm with you. If Allen can play, he should. 

EDIT: I totally missed your 1st paragraph. Sorry.

Edited October 14, 2018 by Dopey

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

These !@#$ing guys are just dumb enough to somehow start Peterman next week if Allen can’t go. That’s why I wanted him cut the second after Anderson was here. I didn’t want Peterman to be a hit away from losing another game for us....then today’s inactives came out.

[Jerome007]

Allen is almost ready ENOUGH for him to start and get to be NFL ready playing. No he isn't all that yet but the Bills are 2-3 with him, and his WR group is among  the weakest in the league. He learns as he goes and with some motivated and good WRs, the playcalling could open up more. Hell they put a max protection set, 3 blockers against Watt, and it's then JJ had his sack in this game. Not Allen's fault nor the coaches.

 

Watson was supposedly sooooooooooooooo hot last year. How did he look to you with a a week OLine and only Hopkins open? He outclassed Allen that much? In accuracy and throwing to the right spot at a covered Hopkins, I admit I don't see Allen doing that, but then, with enough game play and practice with a very good WR who knows? Point is Allen isn't as bad as haters say. Not good enough for sure, but showing enough to leave him in there over Anderson (and Peterman but 1% would argue otherwise).

 

 

[GG]

13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

If Allen is healthy, he has to start.  Learn by doing!

 

Quite the contrary, use the injury to sit his butt back down.   

 

As others pointed out, he's shown very little progress since the Chargers game and it looks like he's starting to press and all the bad habits from Wyoming are coming back.  There's virtually no time for him to take the proverbial step back and see what he's doing wrong.  There are 3 practices during the week now, and all of that is spent on preparing for the opponent.  There's no time for him to start looking at his mistakes AND trying to fix them.

 

In any event, there's another factor that likely sealed his fate as a starter for now.  Watch the body language of the WRs when he makes a bad pass or a wrong read.  They are visibly upset on the field.  We've also seen this with JP and EJ.  It wasn't long after the WRs acted up that the QBs were benched.

 

Allen's elbow injury came at the perfect time.  Sit his butt down for a while.

[frostbitmic]

Anderson has been a back up for the past decade for a reason. He was signed to be a mentor not to play.

 

I still think we'll have 6 QB's start games for us this season.

[Comebackkid]

4 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Anderson has been a back up for the past decade for a reason. He was signed to be a mentor not to play.

 

I still think we'll have 6 QB's start games for us this season.

makes me wonder what shape he is in physically to play qb....esp for the Bills.   I dont see him taking hits all that well. 

[Rob's House]

I think they need to determine if starting now is helping or hurting Allen's development. There could be some positives to starting Anderson: it gives Allen a chance to take a step back and study the game without the pressure of trying to win, and it would help to assess the rest of the offense. It would also help to determine how much of the offense's problems are due to Allen's play.

 

It might help Allen to sit for a few weeks and regroup before going back in.

Edited October 14, 2018 by Rob's House

[paulbills]

100%, if you throw Peterman out there the game could be potentially lost by the end of the 1st quarter, Anderson won't throw the game away as easily as Peterman could, I love the kid but man it is hard to support him. 

[sleeby]

19 minutes ago, GG said:

In any event, there's another factor that likely sealed his fate as a starter for now.  Watch the body language of the WRs when he makes a bad pass or a wrong read.  They are visibly upset on the field.  We've also seen this with JP and EJ.  It wasn't long after the WRs acted up that the QBs were benched.

 

Allen's elbow injury came at the perfect time.  Sit his butt down for a while.

These WRs cannot possibly complain about the QB.  You got jokes.

[RaoulDuke79]

I'll say this. I will not watch the game if Peterman starts.

Edited October 14, 2018 by RaoulDuke79

[RobH063]

2 hours ago, swnybillsfan said:

either way, peterman should be cut. if allen can play, i think you play him. he has got to get as much experience as possible, because we need to know whether he is the guy going forward, or just another guy between kelley and ________.

Who the heck is Kelley? I can't find him on any previous Bills roster.

[VW82]

2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Bad idea. Let him play to gain valuable experience. 

 

Maybe that's the right answer, but there's a risk/reward to both sides of the argument. Right now he has to be dangerously close to teammates completely losing confidence in him. He's been that bad. If that happens you're not that far removed from the player losing his confidence, and once that happens you're in real trouble.  Sometimes you have to save the player from himself.

 

Allen is going to get another chance regardless, and everyone would understand if Bills pulled him. McD will take the hit for starting him too early.

 

The downside to sitting him is he loses 2-3 games while we likely squander away the season when he could have been developing. The downside to continue playing him if he doesn't get better fast is you might lose the team, and support for bringing Allen back as the starter next year. He'll be seen as the main reason our season went to crap (which is dangerous because it's true). I'd rather take the loss of 2-3 games development, and take some pressure off the kid. Let him regroup. Let the team and fans see it's not just the QB screwing things up out there. This elbow injury provides a perfect cover 2 (pun intended).

Edited October 14, 2018 by VW82

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Gag me. 

 

This team starts Anderson, then McDermott and Beane need to be fired for the illogical decision making. 

[swnybillsfan]

10 minutes ago, RobH063 said:

Who the heck is Kelley? I can't find him on any previous Bills roster.

drink a few beers, you'll find him. he was before Flooty and Bledsow. and well after Allin and even Tierod.

[VW82]

51 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Quite the contrary, use the injury to sit his butt back down.   

 

As others pointed out, he's shown very little progress since the Chargers game and it looks like he's starting to press and all the bad habits from Wyoming are coming back.  There's virtually no time for him to take the proverbial step back and see what he's doing wrong.  There are 3 practices during the week now, and all of that is spent on preparing for the opponent.  There's no time for him to start looking at his mistakes AND trying to fix them.

 

In any event, there's another factor that likely sealed his fate as a starter for now.  Watch the body language of the WRs when he makes a bad pass or a wrong read.  They are visibly upset on the field.  We've also seen this with JP and EJ.  It wasn't long after the WRs acted up that the QBs were benched.

 

Allen's elbow injury came at the perfect time.  Sit his butt down for a while.

 

This is a great point. He's losing the team, and once that happens you're not far away from the QB losing his confidence too. If we continue playing him, and the results don't change Allen will be seen as the reason our season fell apart (him and Peterman),. That's a dangerous position for a young QB, and it will put a lot of pressure on McBeane to bring in a new starting caliber QB in the offseason to compete. Now you're even further undermining Allen's confidence.    

Edited October 14, 2018 by VW82

[billieve420]

Allen should start if healthy. No point in yanking him in and out of the lineup as this team is going no where regardless who the QB is back there. Let's not ruin another young QB by jerking him around.

 

More of the blame should go the coaching staff and FO for how they handled the situation. Allen should have never seen the field this year due to talent in the field and how raw he was.

Edited October 14, 2018 by billieve420

[gobills1212]

3 hours ago, VW82 said:

We don't know the extent of Allen's elbow injury yet, but IMO it doesn't matter. This is a perfect opportunity for the Bills to pull him off the field for a few games and let him gain a little perspective. 

 

Prior to the injury, Allen was terrible today...again. He was just as likely to get injured running the ball along the sideline and getting drilled by that Houston LB in the first half when he chose not to run out of bounds. He missed multiple open receivers. On 3rd and goal, he ran out of the pocket when there was no pressure, and short sided himself with only one available receiver (Jones) who was covered. Allen didn't seem to understand Houston had a spy on him so he couldn't just run it in. We've seen him do this several times now, including preseason. 

 

Peterman's career in Buffalo is over whether he gets cut or not. 

 

It's still early, but Josh isn't getting better. He doesn't understand what's happening pre-snap. He has a tendency to run backwards at the slightest hint of pressure. He's frequently wildly inaccurate with his throws. He makes bad decisions.

 

Anderson isn't the perfect solution, but right now he's the best option short-term for the team, and long-term for Allen's development. The kid needs a breather. He needs to watch and learn.

Shame on the 7 people who gave this the thumbs up. 

[vincec]

2 hours ago, Domdab99 said:

start Peterman, Anderson is the back-up, JA not active with the elbow

That's what's going to happen. Nate Peterman, part 5

[VW82]

16 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

Allen should start if healthy. No point in yanking him in and out of the lineup as this team is going no where regardless who the QB is back there. Let's not ruin another young QB by jerking him around.

 

More of the blame should go the coaching staff and FO for how they handled the situation. Allen should have never seen the field this year due to talent in the field and how raw he was.

 

How are we ruining him by sitting him under the cover of an injury? He's at a much greater risk of losing confidence by going right back out there and continuing to stink it up. Teammates and coaches will lose confidence, which is already happening btw. Watch the body language of the WRs. It's pretty tough for a young guy to succeed when his own organization is losing faith. Plus, it sure looks like he could use the time to decompress and regroup, not to mention heal up. Elbow injuries are no joke for QBs. 

Edited October 14, 2018 by VW82

[gobills1212]

13 minutes ago, VW82 said:

 

This is a great point. He's losing the team, and once that happens you're not far away from the QB losing his confidence too. If we continue playing him, and the results don't change Allen will be seen as the reason our season fell apart (him and Peterman),. That's a dangerous position for a young QB, and it will put a lot of pressure on McBeane to bring in a new starting caliber QB in the offseason to compete. Now you're even further undermining Allen's confidence.    

Becuase you, more than anyone of the other fans, have inside info that he has lost the team. 

This is silly. Make arguments based on facts. Not silly opinions. You DONT know. You dont even know WHY they act like that IF they even are? Making arguments on your assumptions as though you are part of the team puts the entire basis of your arguments in doubt. It makes it to easy to poke holes in it. Its why some posts become unbearable.

[Domdab99]

Bills had a better day than this mom:

 

 

[gobills1212]

2 minutes ago, VW82 said:

 

How are we ruining him by sitting him under the cover of an injury? He's at a much greater risk of losing confidence by going right back out there and continuing to stink it up. Teammates and coaches will lose confidence, which is already happening btw. Watch the body language of the WRs. It's pretty tough for a young guy to succeed when his own organization is losing faith. Plus, it sure looks like he could use the time to decompress and regroup, not to mention heal up. Elbow injuries are no joke for QBs. 

Again.. assuming his organization is losing faith. 

YOU HAVE NO IDEA

[26CornerBlitz]