Warcodered Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Again when I talked about his throws I said throws of consequence. That throw was very nice. It also was of no consequence to the game because it got wiped out. Look obviously you disagree with me but please don’t pick and choose my words. Well of course and clearly he knew that when he threw it and decided that just then he'd be accurate. Seriously what does it matter if it was called back he made the throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: throws of consequence  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Albwan said: All I know is i've grown tired of watching just about every other nfl team throwing the ball and scoring points. It's about time this organization gets more than 50% of the damned game right at any given time. Brock Osweiller... omg No but ask those who don't care about offense and think this is perfectly okay...... What I'd see for the Offensive game plan to be at least try and score points and move the ball..... Right now it is 4 yards a pop is okay according to McDermott.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said: I don't have a take on the other three. For two years I've felt that DiMarco was the most overpaid, unnecessary use of funds on the team. A sort of obligatory flop to Carolina. Spending millions on a fullback that to my untrained eye makes consistent errors and doesn't impact your running game? That's a sin. This regime loves them some Carolina cast offs. I really hope tomorrow they all have a moment of clarity. It would start with Peterman being cut and Daboll gettin a nice talkin’ to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: I didn't take consequence as you did. I was talking about in the second half and they needed a big play when nothing was going right. And it would have been a huge play of consequence. Thanks and yes it certainly would have qualified had it not been called back. It was one of the few throws that he’s completed where his arm strength obviously played a big factor. A Keenum probably does not fit that in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 So....  https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2018/6#average-time-to-throw  Most time to throw in week 6:  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Â Yeah I know words are hard. Especially 3 syllable ones. Better just use a gif instead. Tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: So....  https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2018/6#average-time-to-throw  Most time to throw in week 6:  and who was open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 And for the season to date: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: This regime loves them some Carolina cast offs. I really hope tomorrow they all have a moment of clarity. It would start with Peterman being cut and Daboll gettin a nice talkin’ to. I don't know enough about the inner workings to be too upset at Daboll, but that 3rd & 2 power formation with 4 min in the 4th quarter is enough to make me question just how much this guy is willing to change.  So f'ing JV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 hours ago, COTC said: He has guts and is tall, his talent is very questionable.  Too early. Yes he has guts and grit and gets fired up however I fail to see him even trying to go thru progressions he checks and panics.  Coaching won’t correct this at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: So....  https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2018/6#average-time-to-throw  Most time to throw in week 6:  Time to throw is the most stupidest stat in all of football. It means less than zero in raw numbers and out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: So....  https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2018/6#average-time-to-throw  Most time to throw in week 6:  no snark intended here ... but does tell you something I don't see? Because what I take from it is that there is no statistical difference in the amount of time most quarterbacks have to throw the ball. Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen have 6 one hundredth's of a difference in time to make a decision. Can you even acknowledge such a small time frame?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Time to throw is the most stupidest stat in all of football. It means less than zero in raw numbers and out of context. most stupidest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, stony said: I don't know enough about the inner workings to be too upset at Daboll, but that 3rd & 2 power formation with 4 min in the 4th quarter is enough to make me question just how much this guy is willing to change.  So f'ing JV. I was thinking same thing- completely novice, pop warner offense. Its so sad to see such a great defensive effort gone to waste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Warcodered said: and who was open?  When Peterman came in guys were open. He can't get the ball there or read a defense, but guys were open.  Allen isn't even looking for an open receiver most of the time. If his primary read isn't immediately open, he instantly looks to tuck the ball and run regardless of whether there's any pressure on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, jrober38 said:  When Peterman came in guys were open. He can't get the ball there or read a defense, but guys were open.  Allen isn't even looking for an open receiver most of the time. If his primary read isn't immediately open, he instantly looks to tuck the ball and run regardless of whether there's any pressure on him. Those guys were on the other team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, stony said: I don't know enough about the inner workings to be too upset at Daboll, but that 3rd & 2 power formation with 4 min in the 4th quarter is enough to make me question just how much this guy is willing to change.  So f'ing JV. It's all a matter of perspective. I saw 2nd and goal from the 6 as 3 straight runs from a power formation, but we got 2 passes and a FG instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: most stupidest? Yep. I was going to say most more stupidest but I thought it sounded most stupider. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: and who was open? there's all kinds of stupid stats out there ... but what about this one? If your QB can't find a guy that is getting separation, then measuring his time in the pocket pretty much is a fckd idea. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, Tyrod's friend said: there's all kinds of stupid stats out there ... but what about this one? If your QB can't find a guy that is getting separation, then measuring his time in the pocket pretty much is a fckd idea.    Another stupid stat:  The Bills are averaging 123 yards passing per game.  Adam Thielen is averaging 119 yards receiving per game.  Our QB play is so bad it's unbelievable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Yeah I know words are hard. Especially 3 syllable ones. Better just use a gif instead. Tool.  Laughing at you is easier.    And enjoyable  My guy said “ throws of relevance” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said:  When Peterman came in guys were open. He can't get the ball there or read a defense, but guys were open.  Allen isn't even looking for an open receiver most of the time. If his primary read isn't immediately open, he instantly looks to tuck the ball and run regardless of whether there's any pressure on him.  Allen is hesitating. Play to play it could be for different reasons. Peterman makes quick decisions and because of it he throws a shitload of INTs.... Pick your poison I guess. You could see that pick 6 coming from a mile away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I am becoming very concerned about Josh.  They said he was not ready and he is showing that.  He made some decent throws bit still seems to be throwing at feet etc.  he is playing scared he instantly going thru progressions however the play calling is terrible,  These two tight end and FB sest with an extra big guy Telegraph the play call.  He needs to,rework,out of shotgun all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, jrober38 said:  When Peterman came in guys were open. He can't get the ball there or read a defense, but guys were open.  Allen isn't even looking for an open receiver most of the time. If his primary read isn't immediately open, he instantly looks to tuck the ball and run regardless of whether there's any pressure on him.  So a rookie quarterback is expected to read the entire field at the same progression speed as a seasoned veteran or else he'll never be able to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, BananaB said:  Allen is hesitating. Play to play it could be for different reasons. Peterman makes quick decisions and because of it he throws a shitload of INTs.... Pick your poison I guess. You could see that pick 6 coming from a mile away.  I don't see any hesitation.  I see a guy who isn't even trying to read the defense. He looks like a complete deer in the headlights out there. The game is way too fast for him and his instinct is to just bail out of the pocket and run because that's what worked for him in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, jrober38 said:  Another stupid stat:  The Bills are averaging 123 yards passing per game.  Adam Thielen is averaging 119 yards receiving per game.  Our QB play is so bad it's unbelievable. And he was UNDRAFTED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 hours ago, swnybillsfan said: i see what you did there. and to be honest, initially i did swear at my tv at high volumes on draft day. but...i am a Bills fan, so i am all up on the Allen train now. Amen man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said:  I don't see any hesitation.  I see a guy who isn't even trying to read the defense. He looks like a complete deer in the headlights out there. The game is way too fast for him and his instinct is to just bail out of the pocket and run because that's what worked for him in college.  Yeah he isn't trying. Sure. He just doesn't care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: I don't have a take on the other three. For two years I've felt that DiMarco was the most overpaid, unnecessary use of funds on the team. A sort of obligatory flop to Carolina. Spending millions on a fullback that to my untrained eye makes consistent errors and doesn't impact your running game? That's a sin. Actually Dimarco's been terrible and worthless for 2 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Was it just me but didn't Watson have a few drop backs where he almost looked like he was running a draw. I thought he was very impressive. If he had a line he would be a real problem Judging by your profile picture, I can't take your evaluation seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Yeah I know words are hard. Especially 3 syllable ones. Better just use a gif instead. Tool. Â We'll all laughing at you. Â 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:  Laughing at you is easier.    And enjoyable  My guy said “ throws of relevance” Big boy knows how to use a thesaurus. Good for you champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said: Big boy knows how to use a thesaurus. Good for you champ.  Sorry your crusade has you all worked up.  Have some patience with Allen and things will start to happen.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said:  I don't see any hesitation.  I see a guy who isn't even trying to read the defense. He looks like a complete deer in the headlights out there. The game is way too fast for him and his instinct is to just bail out of the pocket and run because that's what worked for him in college.  You don’t see a guy who is about to wind up to throw and then tucks  and runs or takes a sack? I see it all the !@#$ing time. I have seen it less the past 2 weeks because we haven’t been passing as much. But it is pretty routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 hours ago, PayDaBill$ said: Is he really the answer? Looks like the least competent and ready of all the top 18 QB’s.  He’s really a raw talent almost makes we wonder if he’ll ever develop. He just looks like he gets scared sometimes to throw the ball. He isn't showing the very quick release to be a very good QB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:  We'll all laughing at you.  I’ve no issues if you and Teddy want to be dicks and trolls. I don’t expect anything more for you two anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, JoPar_v2 said: I’ve no issues if you and Teddy want to be dicks and trolls. I don’t expect anything more for you two anyway.  We're just holding you accountable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 hours ago, yungmack said: Whaley's miss was EJ who at least he traded down to get. McBeane have already picked two QBs -- Peterman and Allen -- who can't even rise to EJ's level of mediocrity. I was just thinking this. I don't know that he would have completed many more passes and we know we dont need 300 TDs, but we need to have an air attack. Someone on the radio said last week that they would be fine if all of his throws were dropped as it would at least showing, with talent, hes our guy. He is on and off. I would love to have our guy on a terrible team but I am still watching for signs we will be ok. Ivory and McCoy will be here 1 more year. I just hope that we can build an air attack to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The game is way too fast for him. Im also not seeing much in terms of scheming to get him easy designed throws either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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