Stroke 17 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Looking around the league yesterday there is no doubt the Bills have the worst offense in the entire country. Pee wee, high school ,college, powder puff...... Will we ever see an NFL offfense? Will we ever see a real NFL receiver? The rules in the Nfl favor offenses and here in Buffalo the Bills can"t get a freakin field goal. Some point totals from yesterday, Houston 37, Colts 34, Bears 48, Bengals 37, Falcons 36, Pats 45, Browns 42, Raiders 45, Saints 33. The team I root for 0, ZERO, NONE, ZILCH, NADA not a freakin point. Years ago John McKay coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs was asked about the EXECUTION of his offense, he said he was in favor of it. Thats how I feel about the Bills offense. I want my ticket money back, I deserve at least half my money back as it seem that the Bills only field half a team. That wide receiver bunch is a freakin joke, and the offensive line is the punch line. Thanks for letting me vent. They're killin me Whitey, they're killin me! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Part of cheering for this team is to embrace the suck About 90 percent for decades now of embracing the suck 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: Part of cheering for this team is to embrace the suck About 90 percent for decades now of embracing the suck But, if you embrace suckitude can you ever extricate yourself from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 NO!! We will never have an offense. NEVER!! OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Probably not. We hire HCs who think because it gets cold here in the winter our offense needs to be built around running the ball. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroke 17 Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 I am in my 44th year as a season ticket holder and I have said at least 30 times over the years "that this is the worst" I have embraced the suck but I see the end is near. I am 62 years old and I only have about 39 seasons left. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stroke 17 said: I am in my 44th year as a season ticket holder and I have said at least 30 times over the years "that this is the worst" I have embraced the suck but I see the end is near. I am 62 years old and I only have about 39 seasons left. The bills are turning the old guard off by their play. Boring football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Probably not. We hire HCs who think because it gets cold here in the winter our offense needs to be built around running the ball. Are we a running team? We're the 24th ranking rushing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, dneveu said: Are we a running team? We're the 24th ranking rushing team. Our offense is nothing right now. But given what McD has said, I believe he’d rather our offense be built around the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Yesterday was glaringly obvious that our HS type offense couldn’t keep up with a professional caliber NFL team. Its embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Probably not. We hire HCs who think because it gets cold here in the winter our offense needs to be built around running the ball. This reason is part of the reason I wish the Bills would build a dome. It's not like the weather plays into our advantage seeing as most players come from the south. It would stop this non-sense we need to run the ball to be successful in Buffalo. Also, 7 out of the 20 games McBeane have under their belt in this regime, the Bills have lost by 20+ points. That' scary bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Probably not. We hire HCs who think because it gets cold here in the winter our offense needs to be built around running the ball. And based on what we saw yesterday, right now that's exactly what it needs to be based around. To me they are putting too much of the game on Allen's shoulders and it's not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 What I saw yesterday was highly offensive and I'm in favor of its execution. Thank You John McKay. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, gjv001 said: NO!! We will never have an offense. NEVER!! OK? can I have a refund? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Rex ruined a top 5 defense. McBeane has dismantled a top 10 offense. Like I've posted many times, none of this matters if Allen is a franchise QB. All the losses and wasted picks won't matter if he can play at a high level for years. McBeane will keep their jobs this year and will get 2019 to prove they know what they are doing. So far overall the roster is far worse under their control but with a few areas of upgrade - DB,S,PK. The dead money is on them. The cap space is them as well. If they spend and draft well it still won't matter if Allen is a bust. Allen was my top choice. I'm ok but not happy with his play so far. I'm worried about missing some guys who were open on short throws while running or with some pressure and the dumb INT before the half. But the line is so bad and the WR are so bad that it is near impossible to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Reading the posts on this board after a loss / bad performance usually just make me laugh. However, sometimes it feels like they just might trigger an aneurysm and make my head explode.... Edited October 1, 2018 by billsfan1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Not as long as we keep hiring coaches that believe that "defense wins championships" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I would be ok with McBeane making a trade for a wideout, preferably someone who can catch at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: And based on what we saw yesterday, right now that's exactly what it needs to be based around. To me they are putting too much of the game on Allen's shoulders and it's not looking good. Right now our offense has no identity. It has no talent. It’s just out there going through the motions. I don’t understand what BB and McD are trying to build here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroke 17 Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Reading the posts on this board after a loss / bad performance usually just make me laugh. However, sometimes it feels like they just my trigger an aneurysm and make my head explode.... Actually one year ago September 26,2017 I had a stroke. Doctor said if you are a Bills fan it may have led to the stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I wouldn't ding them too badly for the 2nd half of the Vikings game when they clearly dialed things back after taking the 27-0 lead into the 2nd half. Yesterday OTOH....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I don't know how you fix this offense. But I'm flying up to watch the Tennessee game.. and If the O is moving backwards all game I will be very unhappy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroke 17 Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 I have the ticket so when the Bills are on the road I see a lot of NFL football. I get really pissed when I see wide receivers running wide open, backs out of the backfield running a crossing pattern, wide open, actual use of tight ends and teams with multiple wide receivers who not only can get open but they can also catch. An NFL team (my team) gets shut out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: I don't know how you fix this offense. But I'm flying up to watch the Tennessee game.. and If the O is moving backwards all game I will be very unhappy.. Fix the offensive line and the offense will start to get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 To me they are not doing a good job of trying to get the ball to our best bets on offense. If you want to move the ball you have to find ways to get Shady involved. That's just the bottom line. If you want your QB to feel more comfortable and stop try to play hero ball you are going to have to start chipping the edges and maybe even using an upback to check the middle due to the line just being a horrid mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) I don’t know how they will build the offense. Pretty much everyone on this offense needs to go except for Allen, Dawkins and maybe Marcus Murphy (young and cheap) apart from that we need to rebuild the whole thing. This will take a few years if we can accomplish it. Edited October 1, 2018 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 All we can do is wait on Josh and see how fast he grows. If he learns from the Packer's game then there is hope. It is inevitable that he will have rough patches and this past Sunday's game will not be the last for the season. Almost certain that we will be under .500 at the mid-point of the season unless other parts of the offense have an epiphany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, ScottLaw said: The new regime thinks it takes 5 years to rebuild a football team. They wont make it past year 3 with performances like that yesterday. They get 3, bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Hmm? Let's see. Sean McVay as the innovative play designer on a team that has invested heavily in a strong supporting cast to help Goff shine. Please let this be the plan in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, wppete said: I don’t know how they will build the offense. Pretty much everyone on this offense needs to go except for Allen, Dawkins and maybe Marcus Murphy (young and cheap) apart from that we need to rebuild the whole thing. This will take a few years if we can accomplish it. No team has 5 All Pro's on their OL so if we can find a quality center and RT the rest of the problems may be maskable. 4 or 5 quality replacements of the starting 11 on offense will yield big improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: Rex ruined a top 5 defense. McBeane has dismantled a top 10 offense. Like I've posted many times, none of this matters if Allen is a franchise QB. All the losses and wasted picks won't matter if he can play at a high level for years. McBeane will keep their jobs this year and will get 2019 to prove they know what they are doing. So far overall the roster is far worse under their control but with a few areas of upgrade - DB,S,PK. The dead money is on them. The cap space is them as well. If they spend and draft well it still won't matter if Allen is a bust. Allen was my top choice. I'm ok but not happy with his play so far. I'm worried about missing some guys who were open on short throws while running or with some pressure and the dumb INT before the half. But the line is so bad and the WR are so bad that it is near impossible to judge. Yes, the Bills finished #12 in scoring in 2015, and then tied for #10 in scoring in 2016. But this was done almost entirely by running the ball. During those same years, our passing game was in the bottom-quarter of the league in every measurable statistic. Whenever the Defense struggled and we were forced to move the ball through the air, Tyrod Taylor was completely worthless. Rex Ryan ruined a Top 5 defense, which could have gotten better if the players were used to their strengths. Instead, he stubbornly forced his system onto talent that didn't fit the scheme. In contrast, Brandon Beane/Sean McDermott were forced to dismantle the offense, because we had reached our ceiling with Taylor - and it clearly wasn't good enough to consistently win in today's NFL. Not to mention, a run-heavy approach wasn't sustainable long-term anyway, with Eric Wood and Ritchie Incognito retiring, and LeSean McCoy reaching 30 years old. Unfortunately, the only way to upgrade the QB position (unless you could win the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes) was to draft one in the First Round. And 95% of the time, doing this results in a team going backwards before it goes forwards. The Bills, Jets and Cardinals are all starting rookie QBs this year, and all have been much worse than a year ago. The Browns have looked better in Baker Mayfield's brief time, but they were 1-31 over the last two years and had nowhere to go but up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: No team has 5 All Pro's on their OL so if we can find a quality center and RT the rest of the problems may be maskable. 4 or 5 quality replacements of the starting 11 on offense will yield big improvement. they did get a great for his generation and he left, and a lot of flops at high picks that seemed fine at the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Our offense is nothing right now. But given what McD has said, I believe he’d rather our offense be built around the run. Get ahead of sticks - less likely to have penalties running than pass blocking - less likely to get turnovers - set up PA... Seems smart especially with a rookie QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stroke 17 said: Looking around the league yesterday there is no doubt the Bills have the worst offense in the entire country. Pee wee, high school ,college, powder puff...... Will we ever see an NFL offfense? Will we ever see a real NFL receiver? The rules in the Nfl favor offenses and here in Buffalo the Bills can"t get a freakin field goal. Some point totals from yesterday, Houston 37, Colts 34, Bears 48, Bengals 37, Falcons 36, Pats 45, Browns 42, Raiders 45, Saints 33. The team I root for 0, ZERO, NONE, ZILCH, NADA not a freakin point. Years ago John McKay coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs was asked about the EXECUTION of his offense, he said he was in favor of it. Thats how I feel about the Bills offense. I want my ticket money back, I deserve at least half my money back as it seem that the Bills only field half a team. That wide receiver bunch is a freakin joke, and the offensive line is the punch line. Thanks for letting me vent. They're killin me Whitey, they're killin me! You are forgetting about the fact that the Packer’s defense is probably a bottom 10 defense in the NFL. Unless you were actively working to sabatoge the team, it would be difficult to put together a more inept offense than what the Bills are trotting out there in 2018, including what might be the worst receiving corps in the modern history of the league. Will anyone be held accountable, or will the people who created this fiasco be given years to try to prove that they are competent? Edited October 1, 2018 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 No. Never. They can play football until the next millennium and the Bills will never have an offense. Sigh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, dneveu said: Get ahead of sticks - less likely to have penalties running than pass blocking - less likely to get turnovers - set up PA... Seems smart especially with a rookie QB. it's a green QB with a lot of potential just admit you aren't going to dominate, hand the ball off half the time and gladly punt for field position and hope to eke out a 10-7 win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 35 minutes ago, wppete said: I don’t know how they will build the offense. Pretty much everyone on this offense needs to go except for Allen, Dawkins and maybe Marcus Murphy (young and cheap) apart from that we need to rebuild the whole thing. This will take a few years if we can accomplish it. Do you want the same people who passed on Mahomes and Watson, and traded up for Zay Jones, to be in charge of that project? Are you interested in giving them a few more years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) "Will we ever have an offense" This may be the most offensive example of a Buffalo Bills team since the 2-14 teams of '84-'85. This team will be hard pressed to better those records. Be a good year to trade out of their likely top 3 pick. This team needs more than any NFL team. Edited October 1, 2018 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, greeneblitz said: Not as long as we keep hiring coaches that believe that "defense wins championships" ^^this^^. Also, on offense having a very dated run style offense. That doesn't run well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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