Billsfan1972 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 He was a 5th round pick and the Bills went all in on Allen trading up and he is the Bills future (or so we hope). They get another very iffy QB in AJ McCarron and jettison him him before the end of the pre-season. Then they start Peterman week 1 and he put up a 0 QBR, no first downs and 5 net yards (8 on the last play of the half). Pretty obvious McDermott had some kind of hard on for him as we saw last year and tried to clear the path for him this year and it failed all in one half of football. If Peterman has 4 years experience on the roster and a high pick, with a few starts and some play, sure maybe it made some sense, but one just has to wonder what the thought process was. As bad as Peterman was, I also think a combination of this Sunday being the home opener, the opponent being Los Angeles and visions of Peterman's last game vs. them and Darnold's play on Monday night was the last nail in the coffin. Now just hope that Allen is at least somewhat competent (regardless he is the future) and is not injured and that the Bills sign another QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 i'm not sure what's going on here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Peterman got to start because he's a really nice guy who doesn't talk back to coaches. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Peterman is almost as much of a rookie as Allen is. I wish people, especially the media, would get off his back. Looking back at this mess, Coach McD put him in a bad situation twice, with last years decision being an extremely dubious one indeed. The only benefit from all of this is now we all know he is not an NFL QB ... but Peterman really paid the price for these bad decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Well at least we won't have pressure to replace Josh if he plays bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Hindsight Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 He must be the greatest practice QB of all time. I never saw it. Even in his "good" preseason, I saw a guy who needed to get much stronger. Potential for sure. Smart, good decisions, but weak. I thought he had a chance to be a long term backup at best. more likely a few years before being out of the league When he was announced the starter last season, I told my friend "He could bomb. Needs to get much stronger" I dont know what McD sees in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Got his chance. Failed. Move on nothing to feel bad for him for. He just cant play at this level happens all the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) Because from all reports he plays totally different in training camp and even in preseason. He looked good. Until the lights come on and he is on stage...then he seems like he has a case of the Yips. Sal said watching him in practice and the preseason games there was no indication that he would go in and perform like he did. Its almost like he panics and forgets all of the things he is supposed to do that he does normally. Edited September 13, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: Peterman is almost as much of a rookie as Allen is. I wish people, especially the media, would get off his back. Looking back at this mess, Coach McD put him in a bad situation twice, with last years decision being an extremely dubious one indeed. The only benefit from all of this is now we all know he is not an NFL QB ... but Peterman really paid the price for these bad decisions. If by "almost" you mean twice as much NFL experience as Allen then I guess you are correct. Peterman has had two full off seasons of workouts, OTA's, meetings, etc. Peterman has has two training camps and 8 preseason games and 18 nfl games including a play off game. He has started 3 actual NFL games. He had a year to learn from a veteran QB who managed to be good enough to get his team to the play offs. He had a year where he only shared snaps with one other QB. Allen has had one NFL off season, split his reps with two other QB's and has never started an actual, live bullets NFL game. Peterman may not be a seasoned veteran but he is most definitely not a rookie. Peterman was given more of a chance to be a starter in this league than was warranted by his abilities. My hope for him is that he will be a competent back-up but I'm not even sure he is capable enough for that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I read multiple training camp reports, from each and every practice the Bills held during the offseason, from lots of different reporters. They all said the same thing: - Josh Allen was making lots of "wow" plays, but also making lots of really bad mistakes and poor throws - AJ McCarron was unimpressive, taking too many sacks and seemed to be trying too hard to avoid mistakes - Nathan Peterman was the most steady, solid and consistent Once Preseason hit, things seemed to be following the same pattern: - Allen displayed lots of talent, but his start against a first-string defense (in the third game) suggested he may not be ready - McCarron played good the first game, but was terrible in the second and fourth - Peterman was consistent in each of his three appearances, regardless of which unit he was playing with or against My guess is that Peterman is one of those guys who plays well in a controlled practice setting, when there is no pressure, he knows exactly what to expect and he's against defenders he's seen many times. Same thing when he's going against a bland preseason defensive scheme. But put him into a real high-pressure NFL game, where he doesn't really know what to expect - he panics and everything crumbles to pieces. Having that Brady/Montana-like calmness is very underrated, and something that's hard to determine in a player until they are put into the situation. It's possible Peterman gets more comfortable as time passes. But it's hard to justify waiting on a QB to develop, when he's got so little upside. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, teef said: i'm not sure what's going on here. Rabble, rabble....process.... rabble, rabble... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 As much as I like McDermott as our head coach, he has crushed Petermans NFL career. Perterman may never have had the talent to be a starting QB. But I felt he had the ability to be a good back up. Playing Peterman in San Diego last year, way before he was ready to play, resulted in Peterman obtaining a negative stigma for interceptions. His poor performance in Baltimore may have been Peterman's pink slip out of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) Hindsight is 20/20. I can understand the first start for Peterman although I disagreed with pulling Tyrod. I'm sure McD wanted to see what the kid had and we saw quickly, went back to Tyrod and went to the playoffs for the first time in 17 years thus padding McBeane's ego somewhat. Peterman should have been cut in the off season but wasn't and this is where poor general management and coaching decision making come in. To make the same mistake twice is on McBeane. One of worst decisions of Bills management that I can remember. Starting Peterman was made by choice and not forced due to injuries. They have painted themselves in corner of not having a viable QB which demonstrates the lack of planning and talent assessing on their part. It has been a long time since we were the embarrassment of the league and we are now after one week. The good part is that it is only one week into the season and there is opportunity for them to prove themselves. Edited September 13, 2018 by VADC Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 It's really simple, McDermott needed to show some semblance of honesty here. He said it was a honest-to-goodness QB competition. Nate was the most effective in the preseason by a country mile, so to start AJ or Josh would have signaled everyone that the competition was a sham all along, and in that case Josh should just have gotten all the reps all along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsatthebeach Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, mjt328 said: I read multiple training camp reports, from each and every practice the Bills held during the offseason, from lots of different reporters. They all said the same thing: - Josh Allen was making lots of "wow" plays, but also making lots of really bad mistakes and poor throws - AJ McCarron was unimpressive, taking too many sacks and seemed to be trying too hard to avoid mistakes - Nathan Peterman was the most steady, solid and consistent Once Preseason hit, things seemed to be following the same pattern: - Allen displayed lots of talent, but his start against a first-string defense (in the third game) suggested he may not be ready - McCarron played good the first game, but was terrible in the second and fourth - Peterman was consistent in each of his three appearances, regardless of which unit he was playing with or against My guess is that Peterman is one of those guys who plays well in a controlled practice setting, when there is no pressure, he knows exactly what to expect and he's against defenders he's seen many times. Same thing when he's going against a bland preseason defensive scheme. But put him into a real high-pressure NFL game, where he doesn't really know what to expect - he panics and everything crumbles to pieces. Having that Brady/Montana-like calmness is very underrated, and something that's hard to determine in a player until they are put into the situation. It's possible Peterman gets more comfortable as time passes. But it's hard to justify waiting on a QB to develop, when he's got so little upside. As bad as McCarron was in the second and fourth PRESEASON games with little game planning,, he was far better than Peterman in his real game. McCarron also has real game experience over the last 5 years. They knew what he had that's why they signed him. Trading him was a huge mistake. And now they risk their new QB's future, who they traded up for, behind this vastly downgraded O-line. Edited September 13, 2018 by gobillsatthebeach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Why do people claim certain QBs to be "the guy" every draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I guess they mistook him for Drew Brees? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 IThere bk it came down to how nice he was... he helped Daboll unpack at the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, gjv001 said: As much as I like McDermott as our head coach, he has crushed Petermans NFL career. Perterman may never have had the talent to be a starting QB. But I felt he had the ability to be a good back up. Playing Peterman in San Diego last year, way before he was ready to play, resulted in Peterman obtaining a negative stigma for interceptions. His poor performance in Baltimore may have been Peterman's pink slip out of the NFL. Or he never has the ability like you felt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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