[Vague Title] Richie, Richie, Richie SMH

[Doc]

35 minutes ago, The Red King said:

He won't come back for the contract he agreed to, and no way Beane offers him additional money after his offseason freakshow.

 

The Bills don't want him back.  But if they offered him even vet minimum, he'd jump at it because no one else is going to sign him anymore.

[Warcodered]

11 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Whatever you say, doctor!!!

 

I really hope he comes back and the Bills acknowledge their mistake. The later is the problem, as the hubris of McBeane will probably not fail.

I don't need to be a doctor I'm not diagnosing him. But if I see some dude crapping in his hand and writing on the walls I'm going to think something is wrong with him and not put him in a violent situation.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Warcodered

[The Red King]

6 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Whatever you say, doctor!!!

 

I really hope he comes back and the Bills acknowledge their mistake. The later is the problem, as the hubris of McBeane will probably not fail.

 

...which would require Richie to admit his.  The guy who retired for 'medical reasons', who was then miraculously cured of those medical issues in a way that was never once explained or addressed.  The guy who then requested a release from the team that he had just signed a binding contract with, then once that team actually granted that release, turned around and mocked that team for letting him go (which, as already noted, was at his request).  I...don't think he's gonna apologize anytime soon.

[Paulus]

2 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

...which would require Richie to admit his.  The guy who retired for 'medical reasons', who was then miraculously cured of those medical issues in a way that was never once explained or addressed.  The guy who then requested a release from the team that he had just signed a binding contract with, then once that team actually granted that release, turned around and mocked that team for letting him go (which, as already noted, was at his request).  I...don't think he's gonna apologize anytime soon.

You're right... I think Richie even saying something is his way of admitting a mistake. Not that it is a good way, just that it is his. 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Paulus said:

You're right... I think Richie even saying something is his way of admitting a mistake. Not that it is a good way, just that it is his. 

 

No, he's not admitting he made a mistake.

[Paulus]

Just now, Doc said:

 

No, he's not admitting he made a mistake.

I don't think either side will. But, I'm not stupid. If he is looking, he still cares. And, the whole thing was hugely important to him, as a human, not as what the toads here make him out to be.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Paulus

[ddaryl]

Pualus is richie.. Probably richie's other personality.... 

[Fadingpain]

Can we just kiss and make up...and immediately hire Richie back now please?

 

 

[Sky Diver]

They Bills gave how much to clown boy Coleman and they stiffed Richie for a few bucks? Stupid. Should have paid the man.

[Doc]

21 minutes ago, Paulus said:

I don't think either side will. But, I'm not stupid. If he is looking, he still cares. And, the whole thing was hugely important to him, as a human, not as what the toads here make him out to be.

 

2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

They Bills gave how much to clown boy Coleman and they stiffed Richie for a few bucks? Stupid. Should have paid the man.

 

The Bills approached him about a pay cut and he accepted.  Had he said "no" they might still have kept him.  Instead he played games and got himself released (and no one knows what went on behind the scenes).  Then he went crazy and killed his chances of ever playing in the NFL again.  You need to accept the consequences of your own behavior.

[PolishPrince]

1 hour ago, Paulus said:

"Because he doesn't agree with me, he is stupid..."

 

-ex

um what? This isnt about agreement, its about being factually incorrect.... So am I wrong here that Eric Wood and Ritchie retired? His post was agreeing with Ritchie that we "tossed away 3 linemen who combined for x5 probowls." Not much you can do when one suddenly retires after renegotiation are finalized, and another finds out he must retire due to life threatening injury... How could anyone possibly say that is "throwing away linemen."

[Luka]

He has a point about Glenn. I think I would've held onto him and moved him back inside. He played guard for Georgia. Although he did get hurt again so I guess it probably wouldn't have worked out in the end.

[Scott7975]

https://twitter.com/68INCOGNITO/status/985161868363911168

Edited September 4, 2018 by Scott7975

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, Luka said:

He has a point about Glenn. I think I would've held onto him and moved him back inside. He played guard for Georgia. Although he did get hurt again so I guess it probably wouldn't have worked out in the end.

 

Glenn is the only one he has somewhat of a point on, but Glenn appears to be damaged goods and he helped the Bills move up to get their potential franchise QB.  And Dawkins will replace him.  The other 2...we shall see.

[The Red King]

Richie's just happy the Bills are suffering without them in a "Hah, I showed them!" way.  What he doesn't realize, clearly, is how his own actions, including this latest tweet, are why he's currently unemployed.  It's clear now he sees himself as a complete victim, mistreated and thrown away.  It's equally clear that he sees absolutely nothing wrong with this little sideshow he ran this offseason, and that is why nobody else will touch him.  Not even something small like "Okay, yeah, maybe I went a bit far when I...".  Nada.  His actions have been, in his mind, completely justifiable.

 

Saddest part is, he still has backers.  And had he simply not signed the extension, would likely have had a large number more.  I had no issue with the Bills offering the extension.  At the same time, I would have supported Richie if he had noped out, and refused to sign.  Once he accepted the Bills' terms then began the circus he played ringmaster for...no...sorry...can't support that.  Neither can Beane, even if he wanted to.  Nobody is crazy enough to reward antics of that caliber.

 

I miss Richie.  We could have really used him.  This while sideshow of his hurt the team.  But I can certain understand the Bills and every other team out there backing away slowly (so as not to have a barbell thrown at them) and heading for the door quietly.  Richie did this to himself.

Edited September 4, 2018 by The Red King

[Doc]

1 minute ago, The Red King said:

Richie's just happy the Bills are suffering without them in a "Hah, I showed them!" way.  What he doesn't realize, clearly, is how his own actions, including this latest tweet, are why he's currently unemployed.  It's clear now he sees himself as a complete victim, mistreated and thrown away.  It's equally clear that he sees absolutely nothing wrong with this little sideshow he ran this offseason, and that is why nobody else will touch him.  Not even something small like "Okay, yeah, maybe I went a bit far when I...".  Nada.  His actions have been, in his mind, completely justifiable.

 

Saddest part is, he still has backers.  And had he simply not signed the extension, would likely have had a large number more.  I had no issue with the Bills offering the extension.  At the same time, I would have supported Richie if he had noped out, and refused to sign.  Once he accepted the Bills' terms then began the circus he played ringmaster for...no...sorry...can't support that.  Neither can Beane, even if he wanted to.  Nobody is crazy enough to reward antics of that caliber.

 

I miss Richie.  We could have really used him.  This while sideshow of his hurt the team.  But I can certain understand the Bills and every other team out there backing away slowly (so as not to have a barbell thrown at them) and heading for the door quietly.  Richie did this to himself.

 

Remains to be seen.  He's got it far worse.

[dollars 2 donuts]

3 hours ago, Watkins90 said:

 

Come on bro. 

 

 

We got rid of only one player, Cordy, and replaced him with close to equal talent.

 

Woods life was at risk and regardless of what sort of revisionist history Nutjob Bonkerson is peddling, he walked away from this team before they had no choice (thankfully) but to release him.

[Paulus]

49 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:

um what? This isnt about agreement, its about being factually incorrect.... So am I wrong here that Eric Wood and Ritchie retired? His post was agreeing with Ritchie that we "tossed away 3 linemen who combined for x5 probowls." Not much you can do when one suddenly retires after renegotiation are finalized, and another finds out he must retire due to life threatening injury... How could anyone possibly say that is "throwing away linemen."

Could have said that instead of throwing a jerky comment about being stupid. 

 

Outside off that, is it possible to consider Eric Wood, Richie, Glenn left because of the culture. That they were just a part of the long list of cast-offs. Perhaps that is what Richie is alluding to. That this regime doesn't value the OL positions.

[PolishPrince]

6 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Could have said that instead of throwing a jerky comment about being stupid. 

 

Outside off that, is it possible to consider Eric Wood, Richie, Glenn left because of the culture. That they were just a part of the long list of cast-offs. Perhaps that is what Richie is alluding to. That this regime doesn't value the OL positions.

Lol

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Could have said that instead of throwing a jerky comment about being stupid. 

 

Outside off that, is it possible to consider Eric Wood, Richie, Glenn left because of the culture. That they were just a part of the long list of cast-offs. Perhaps that is what Richie is alluding to. That this regime doesn't value the OL positions.

 

Again, the only one who might have been "cast off" was Glenn.  Wood had to retire and Ritchie demanded to be released.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 hours ago, Watkins90 said:

 

Come on bro. 

 

 

he's not wrong (except that Wood had to retire)

 

The line must be addressed next year.

[Paulus]

9 minutes ago, PolishPrince said:

Lol

Just no need to be jerky to someone. 

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Again, the only one who might have been "cast off" was Glenn.  Wood had to retire and Ritchie demanded to be released.

I agree to a extent. I think Richie was jerked around by them, and is arguably considered a cast off.

[Batman1876]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

he's not wrong (except that Wood had to retire)

 

The line must be addressed next year.

Wood had to retire, Dion is a good replacement for Cordy( who already got hurt and allowed us to get the QB we wanted) and Richie retired, unreturned, got involuntarily committed to a mental institution and then arrested at a funeral parlor.  I’m not sure what the bills could have done differently that would have been better. 

[Paulus]

2 minutes ago, Batman1876 said:

Wood had to retire, Dion is a good replacement for Cordy( who already got hurt and allowed us to get the QB we wanted) and Richie retired, unreturned, got involuntarily committed to a mental institution and then arrested at a funeral parlor.  I’m not sure what the bills could have done differently that would have been better. 

I member these guys when we traded Peters... How'd that work out? The OL has not been right since.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

2 minutes ago, Batman1876 said:

Wood had to retire, Dion is a good replacement for Cordy( who already got hurt and allowed us to get the QB we wanted) and Richie retired, unreturned, got involuntarily committed to a mental institution and then arrested at a funeral parlor.  I’m not sure what the bills could have done differently that would have been better. 

 

Get Ritchie help instead of kicking him to the curb.

 

Also the offense should have been addressed this year, not the defense. Everyone but Dawkins needs to be replaced, along with better WRs and TEs.

 

Allen should have been surrounded by talent and then go after defense this upcoming draft , which is LOADED with talent.

 

 

[SoTier]

3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Maybe, but to his credit KB played through injury and may have been productive if Tyrod looked his way every so often. Plus he appears healthy this season and ready to play. As far as Murphy goes, I didn’t like the signing either but if he shows up for the opener with a pair of sacks and plays well I’ll be happy to eat crow. 

 

My post wasn't about whether the players themselves are good or bad on the field, but rather the claims of some posters that the reason the Bills traded Watson and Glenn was primarily because they had injuries and intimating that McDermott and Beane didn't want players on the team that may have had injuries that took significant time to heal or were possibly chronic conditions.  Obviously, from their actions, that's simply untrue. 

[SouthNYfan]

4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Until Richie has completed a program I wouldn’t put too much Into anything he says. He needs help not ridicule.

Richie and Eric retired and Cordy wanted out. 

 

I'll ridicule him as much as I want.

He's a dbag.

[Batman1876]

7 minutes ago, Paulus said:

I member these guys when we traded Peters... How'd that work out? The OL has not been right since.

He was not going to resign it’s us.  The clown show we were running back then had a hard time keeping players.

[RaoulDuke79]

Honestly I'd be somewhat afraid if I were the Bill's coaching staff and front office. This fella is one bad day away from doing something seriously crazy.

[Batman1876]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Get Ritchie help instead of kicking him to the curb.

 

Also the offense should have been addressed this year, not the defense. Everyone but Dawkins needs to be replaced, along with better WRs and TEs.

 

Allen should have been surrounded by talent and then go after defense this upcoming draft , which is LOADED with talent.

 

 

He left, not kicked to the curb. Which Olinemen did you want us to sign?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

10 minutes ago, Batman1876 said:

He left, not kicked to the curb. Which Olinemen did you want us to sign?

 

Obviously, but if my all pro suddenly retires I'm going to see what is going on and on his situation get him help. He also expressed interest in coming back but the Bills made it clear he was out.

 

I would not have traded up for Edmunds, even though I think he could be great. I would have drafted G Will Hernandez and C Scott Quessenberry.

 

Would have signed G Justin Pugh and RT Chris Hubbard.

 

 

 

 

[The Red King]

52 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Just no need to be jerky to someone. 

I agree to a extent. I think Richie was jerked around by them, and is arguably considered a cast off.

 

By 'jerked around', you mean 'asked him to honor a contract he recently signed'? ?

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Obviously, but if my all pro suddenly retires I'm going to see what is going on and on his situation get him help. He also expressed interest in coming back but the Bills made it clear he was out.

 

I would not have traded up for Edmunds, even though I think he could be great. I would have drafted G Will Hernandez and C Scott Quessenberry.

 

Would have signed G Justin Pugh and RT Chris Hubbard.

 

Link?

[Paulus]

36 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

By 'jerked around', you mean 'asked him to honor a contract he recently signed'? ?

By getting rid of older players continually asking him to take less, despite record setting, probowl quality play. It was stupid of the Bills to do. That said, there really is no such thing as company loyalty these days. 

[The Red King]

5 minutes ago, Paulus said:

By getting rid of older players continually asking him to take less, despite record setting, probowl quality play. It was stupid of the Bills to do. That said, there really is no such thing as company loyalty these days. 

 

He didn't have to sign.  If he didn't, I'd likely actually support him.  But he signed...on...the...line.  Then retired for 'health reasons', recieved some kind of miraculous cure so he could unretire and...well, you know the entire sideshow he ran.  That's all on Richie.

[Paulus]

2 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

He didn't have to sign.  If he didn't, I'd likely actually support him.  But he signed...on...the...line.  Then retired for 'health reasons', recieved some kind of miraculous cure so he could unretire and...well, you know the entire sideshow he ran.  That's all on Richie.

I agree... The guy is a bit of a nutcase, but he was our nutcase.

 

 

 

I still think that if he lined up Sunday for us it'd be an instant upgrade, for the Bills and Richie. Perhaps too much stuff happened for Don Quixote to beat this windmill, but I stand by the instant upgrade assertion.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

54 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Link?

 

It was pretty obvious at the time and I don't care enough to look it up.

 

 

[VW82]

How much you want to bet Richie has CTE. He's showing a lot of the early behavioral signs.

[The Frankish Reich]

5 hours ago, The Red King said:

So...Ritchie retired for "health reasons", then un-retired and asked for a release, which the Bills gave him...and now the juicebag actually has the gall to claim it was the Bills that kicked him to the curb?  What a tool. ?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2018/04/10/richie-incognito-retiring-buffalo-bills-health/502650002/

Liver disease can cause mental instability. 

[MJS]

7 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

That line might hold water if the Bills hadn't traded for a WR with chronically bad knees and signed a FA DE who has barely practiced all TC and preseason because of a groin injury.

 

I'm also mad that the GM can't predict groin injuries. I mean, every other GM knows when groin injuries will happen and know to not bring those players in. When will ours learn the mystical arts?