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1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

If he beats the ravens nobody talks about the pick game. If he goes 2-0 look out hype train

 

There's a non-zero chance Peterman takes the league by storm and never loses the job. I mean it's very unlikely. But so was him winning the job back in May. Crazier things have happened.

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Disappointing.  At least the defense would have had to play honest with Allen in there and Shady would have room to run.  I like Peterman, he has a lot of good attributes, but the poor arm strength will be a killer.  The Ravens are going to jam eleven player, a couple cheerleaders and a few assistant coaches into the box and have their secondary jumping routes all day.

 

I'll keep hope, and I'll pull for the guy, but in my eyes this is not the best chance Buffalo has of winning this game.  My fear is the coaches are willing to sacrifice this season, we'll eventually put Allen in, start piling up wins, and ultimately just miss the playoffs because too many earlier games were considered expendable.

 

I actually thought we were going to win this one.  Now?  I still think we can, and will still hope they do, but I don't like our chances.  I initially predicted 9-7 with a wild card birth.  After this announcement?  7-9, with people here screaming we should have started Allen sooner.

 

My excitement for Sunday plumetted, but what can you do?  Maybe the staff knows something I don't.  Maybe they have a plan.  Maybe they'll overachieve like last year.  Still a Bills fan, still going to pull for them.  I hope (desperately) for them and Peterman to prove me wrong.  But this, to me at least, looks like the Bills are already sacrificing the season outright for the sake of the future beyond.

 

Ugh...not the way I wanted this day or season to start... ?

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31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Others have said that in a truly open competition between a limited veteran and a talented rookie, the limited veteran will almost always win, because they are faster to learn the offense and they understand how to make the plays the OC wants them to make.  Peterman doesn't have a lot of playing experience, but it's his 2nd year in the league and reportedly, the coaches like him because he's a Whiteboard Wizard, so I'm guessing this applies.

 

Peterman improved his play this preseason and 'earned the gig', we'll hope it carries over when the D's are less vanilla and that he's learned when to "hold his fire" and not try to be a hero.

 

 

Whatever it may be I would rather go with Allen. The kid, to me, doesn’t seem like a bad game or games, will faze him and I feel he is clearly more talented.

 

Whether it’s next year, two years from now or two weeks from now, I think we will have a rough ride when 17 takes over. However, He will be the man once he gets his feet under him.

 

I wish that was now.

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Just now, HappyDays said:

 

There's a non-zero chance Peterman takes the league by storm and never loses the job. I mean it's very unlikely. But so was him winning the job back in May. Crazier things have happened.

 

I expected McCarron to win the job as an acceptable care taker until Allen was ready. 

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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think there are answers to your questions, but they're just  guesses.

 

In hindsight, they were trying to showcase AJM for trade in the 4th grade.  Extra preseason snaps for Allen << 5th round pick in Beane's mind, especially when Daboll clearly didn't want to open the playbook and even if he escaped concussion protocol, Allen did have a vicious game Sunday and having to play again Thurs is no joke.

 

I think that McDermott really wanted to give the nod to AJ.  He's got to be scared to death to start Peterman again and look like a fool, even though Peterman overall has clearly had the best preseason.  So he extended the process, but AJ never stepped up and claimed the ring, then he got hurt, then he sucked in the 1st half, so McDermott said "OK Daboll, Peterman it is, and Beane, you can shop McCarron - but if you guys make me look like a fool with this I'm sending for Belicheck's*** Tub O Entrails and you're both going in"

 

 

 

Bleh. Fair enough. The news definitely lowered my excitement for Sunday. I have no illusions that Nate can be serviceable. Reps for Allen would take priority over everything else if they had any interest in starting him.

 

They brought Allen along at a snail’s pace and when he accelerated it with his own play McD and Daboll threw a bucket of water on him against Cinci.

 

I hope I’m wrong on Nate P, it’s going to be a long week for me hearing all these Pats fans. The reign of Allen can’t begin soon enough!

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:

I guess one would hope a 7th overall pick could beat out a 5th rounder from the year prior.

 

 

It's like people forget about Brady and all the superstars that were late drafts or simply undrafted or taken after busts, and all the numerous high pick busts. As if the draft was a magical process.

 

Don't get me wrong: I still can't wait for Allen to be in there! If he doesn't start this year, it means Nate is having one hell of a season and that'll be a great "problem" to have. Otherwise, yeah, I do expect to see Josh sooner than later. And he'd excite me more as a fan, way more. But I'll trust the coaches, and support a guy that has refused to crumble after an horrendous first outing.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, The Red King said:

At least the defense would have had to play honest with Allen in there and Shady would have room to run.  I like Peterman, he has a lot of good attributes, but the poor arm strength will be a killer.  The Ravens are going to jam eleven player, a couple cheerleaders and a few assistant coaches into the box and have their secondary jumping routes all day.

this is the biggest line of crap that has repeated on here way too many times. if allen  were starting, you don't think they'd stack the box and bring the heat. did you see the cincy game? they would definitely shut the run game down, bring pressure and force allen to make quick decisions and beat them through the air.

 

i don't get why people think because allen's in there they will play 2 deep and hope to press man at the line. they would play the same style no matter which qb we put in there,

hopefully the counter for us is getting the ball out fast and getting into a rhythm.

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He's the starter now because Allen isn't ready.  Nothing more or less. 

Disagree. Doesn’t matter. It’s an opinion, impossible to prove. Not a surprise that you feel that way. He’s the Bills QB now, it’s in all our best interest that he plays well. I hope he plays so well that there is no thought of playing someone else.

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this is the biggest line of crap that has repeated on here way too many times. if allen  were starting, you don't think they'd stack the box and bring the heat. did you see the cincy game? they would definitely shut the run game down, bring pressure and force allen to make quick decisions and beat them through the air.

 

i don't get why people think because allen's in there they will play 2 deep and hope to press man at the line. they would play the same style no matter which qb we put in there,

hopefully the counter for us is getting the ball out fast and getting into a rhythm.

 

...did you watch the Cleveland game where exactly that happened?  Box was stacked vs. AJ and Peterman, when Allen was in there the backs played much further off.

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Getting the ball out quickly is 90% of this. Peterman is capable of executing this modern day, quick read and deliver, Brady style passing game. That’s why he looked good in mop up duty last year. That’s why they benched Tyrod last year, that’s why Peterman is the starter now. The issue is, that also led to some of the picks. Hopefully he learns from the mistakes and doesn’t end up having guys jump routes and rip balls up to the Defense.

 

I think Peterman is the starter now because he out-played AJ McCarron and Allen isn't ready.

 

Whether Peterman can execute that quick read and deliver passing game behind a horrid OL, to mediocre WR who can't gain separation and who drop too many balls, and with defenses doing their best to bait and confuse him remains to be seen.  We'll hope he can.

 

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People will say I'm crazy but Peterman's style  has more than a  little Brady DNA in it, in his fast reads and fast release-times... TB always had a knock about his arm strength too, but he actually has way more ball velocity now than when he started, you CAN build armstrength

 

He could really surprise.  Maybe.

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I think Peterman is the starter now because he out-played AJ McCarron and Allen isn't ready.

 

Whether Peterman can execute that quick read and deliver passing game behind a horrid OL, to mediocre WR who can't gain separation and who drop too many balls, and with defenses doing their best to bait and confuse him remains to be seen.  We'll hope he can.

 

 I agree.

 

I think this OL is very bad, and the WR's aren't that good either. Either QB is going to be 'set up to fail' behind this OL.

 

Right now, Peterman is likely to fail 'less', but he still is being set up to fail....They are saving Allen from a disaster though.

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