twist_to_open Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Now that we have our QB of the future, Beane will trade down in this year's draft at least once and use the boatload of lower 1st and 2nd round picks to aquire OL, DL and receiver talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, B_4_life said: So the ransom is set, would you do it? I would do a next year 1st and a 6th in 2021 that’s it call it what ever you want ! Sorry got to go I got Trump blowing up my phone ? again ? Edited August 30, 2018 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Super Mario was worth the contract till Rex got here. A FA without having to trade high draft picks is a better route. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 number ones plus a long term monster contract- no way in hell! Wait until FA next year and put someone solid next to Edmunds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Gugny said: As long as he can be a DE, LB, WR and OL, then yes. It's a steal!! We know he can be a DE and a LB!! Maybe TE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I’d do it but not for consecutive firsts. Next years and then 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Figster said: thanks for the reply, If I remember correctly Schwartz had a top 5 D in Buffalo which both Mario and Marcel played a big part in. funny what coaching/systems can do for players Bright new shiny toy, or Mack truck? If McD/ Beane show a genuine interest then its probably not going to hurt the process on so many levels IMO. with all due respect When the Bills signed Mario Williams for 100 million in 2013 he came to a near perfect fit defense for his skillset and Mike Pettine did utilize him accordingly. Mario had 13 sacks in 2013 with a defense that was 20th in points allowed, 10th in yards allowed. That 2013 Buffalo Bills team finished the year 6-10. Buffalo was the number two team in sacks that year behind only Carolina. In 2014 the Buffalo Bills defense with new DC Jim Schwartz was the number four defense overall #4 in points allowed, #4 in points allowed. This was the perfect scheme for Mario Williams as he led the entire NFL in sacks with 14.5 and Buffalo led the NFL in sacks with 54. The 2014* Buffalo Bills finished the season 9-7 and no playoffs. In 2017 the Buffalo Bills made the playoffs for the first time since 2000 and they were 29th in the NFL in sacks with only 27. Meanwhile, the Oakland Raiders with Mack was 24th in the NFL with 30 sacks. Speaking of Mack his best year was in 2015 in which he had 15 sacks, 2016, 11 sacks, 2017, 10 sacks. While Mack is a good pass rusher... did he make the Raiders a playoff team in 2017 with his pass rush? In a word, NO! The 2017 Oakland Raiders were 17th overall defense with 20th in points allowed, 23 in yards allowed. Not a very good defense. Like others have pointed out that this current Buffalo Bills team isn't one pass rusher away from a super bowl or even the playoffs, much less a winning season. The Buffalo Bills already went through this with DE Mario Williams and Bills fans going nuts (hundreds of pages in a post in this forum) thinking that he was the key to a Buffalo Bills championship. He wasn't and the Bills had a far more talented roster at that time. Last year 15 players had more sacks than Mack. Making a player like Mack one of the highest paid defensive ends in the league and giving up two first-round picks to the Raiders for him would be more than moronic considering how many holes this team currently still has. I think the Bills FO inquired because of the need for a decent pass rusher and now that they know what It would take to acquire the player I think it's cost prohibitive both money wise and draft picks wise. Edited August 30, 2018 by Nihilarian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Figster said: McD and the big Mack attack Match made in football heaven... To all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Two 1sts? Astro says give ‘em McCargo & EJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I'll bet if you offer ONE first rounder, and send a real hairstylist to fix up Mark Davis, you'll see action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, twist_to_open said: Now that we have our QB of the future, Beane will trade down in this year's draft at least once and use the boatload of lower 1st and 2nd round picks to aquire OL, DL and receiver talent. Had that very conversation last night with someone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Next year's 1st. Take it or leave it Oakland. Mack, Edmunds, White- we have a stud each level of the defense. And our defense would be one of top in NFL. Devote rest of draft picks and cap space to fix oline and WR. Contend for Superbowl in 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I think now we can officially forget about trading for Khalil Mack. That’s insane to trade 2 first round draft picks. The Raiders are messing around with Mack. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/29/report-raiders-seeking-two-first-round-picks-for-khalil-mack/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Who would be stupid enough to trade away two first rounders for a player from that draft year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 hours ago, mrags said: The closer it gets to game day. And the more Mack stresses that he will not play and will sit out the entire year only to leave in FA in the offseason, the raiders will take what they can get for him. Asking everyone for 2 first rounds now will gauge if anyone is stupid enough to offer that for him. Amd no. At that price I would not. John Dorsey is on the phone... 16 minutes ago, Pete said: Next year's 1st. Take it or leave it Oakland. Mack, Edmunds, White- we have a stud each level of the defense. And our defense would be one of top in NFL. Devote rest of draft picks and cap space to fix oline and WR. Contend for Superbowl in 2019 I don't think this defense is a Khalil Mack away from being one of the top in the league. They struggled to slow down Matt Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I was thinking about this and if they are ever going to fix this crappy offense, the Bills need first round picks. I'm not seeing a scenario where they can do both. The FA class next year looks not too good, so I think they should hold on to their picks and get help on the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: John Dorsey is on the phone... I don't think this defense is a Khalil Mack away from being one of the top in the league. They struggled to slow down Matt Barkley. Our D was surprisingly solid last year( minus the 3 game disaster) and we did it with zero pass rush and poor run defense. Poyer, Hyde, and White is a quality secondary.. Add Trent, Star, Trumaine, Harrison and Khalil- I am very optimistic for our defense. Edited August 30, 2018 by Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Pete said: Our D was surprisingly solid last year( minus the 3 game disaster) and we did it with zero pass rush and poor run defense Poyer, Hyde, and White is a quality secondary.. Add Trent, Star, Trumain, Harrison and Khalil- I am very optimistic for our defense. We shall see. Maybe they are just a bit rusty. The Ginger Hammer was carving them up--especially the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I am concerned, this is the kind of bad trade Bean likes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I was thinking about this and if they are ever going to fix this crappy offense, the Bills need first round picks. I'm not seeing a scenario where they can do both. The FA class next year looks not too good, so I think they should hold on to their picks and get help on the offense. A part of me feels like if we are 2-6 at the mid point which is very possible then we might just as well write off the balance of the season to perhaps get a top 3 pick. Then we could trade out if we thought there was more value in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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