Hebert19 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Sadly I think you have the wrong QB. McCarron is the trade bait. They love peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Nathan Peterman’s stock was higher when he was at Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 "Officially." Words don't mean anything anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 7 hours ago, rodneykm said: That Chargers game confuses the negative Nancy's though. They base everything about him off a couple games in his rookie season. That's enough, for those who base things off hot takes, to deem him not worthy. For those folks, it is no longer REALLY about Nate Peterman. NOW it is all about defending their (hasty) judgement/opinion. IF, Peterman ends up being the backup QB for the Bills, we will NEVER hear the end of it - EVER. 32 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: dude had 2 good series cmon> Not being a hater but lets see him play that way for a whole game and then ill think we have some trade bait. If he plays that well for the whole game id like to keep him though Funny, "2 good series" was enough to crucify him, why shouldn't it be enough to resurrect him? Careful Nate haters, you soon will be in a position to aim your poor judgement at our newest rookie. WHEN will Josh make HIS fatal mistake? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 He's the best qb we have right now...sooooo.....no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I don't see this happening. He has 2 more controllable years after this one on a dirt cheap deal. I see him as the long term BU QB with AJ as the short term insurance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, cd1 said: For those folks, it is no longer REALLY about Nate Peterman. NOW it is all about defending their (hasty) judgement/opinion. IF, Peterman ends up being the backup QB for the Bills, we will NEVER hear the end of it - EVER. Funny, "2 good series" was enough to crucify him, why shouldn't it be enough to resurrect him? Careful Nate haters, you soon will be in a position to aim your poor judgement at our newest rookie. WHEN will Josh make HIS fatal mistake? Well to be fair, it was 5 series, that all ended in interceptions..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Juice_32 said: If NP has proven anything it's that he can throw the ball to Chargers at a great completion %. I would love to see him get his redemption in the home opener against the Bolts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Pretty sure he looked better than tyrod last preseason and off to a good start this year, he also looked better than Indis qb in that snow game last year until he got hurt. People hate on him because the oline gave up and didn’t do their job against the chargers and he panicked like a rookie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Well to be fair, it was 5 series, that all ended in interceptions..... It was 6 series. He also had a 3 & out that half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 no. Just.... no. he had two good series' in a preseason game. His actual regular season performances to this point greatly outweigh 2 preseason drives. Who's trading for that? Other than Cleveland, who has their starter AND first overall pick QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: People hate on him because the oline gave up and didn’t do their job against the chargers and he panicked like a rookie. Bupkis. He's Ryan Fitzpatrick 2.0. He can be an effective spot starter and look good against certain teams. But he can't throw with enough velocity to get a team through any kind of sustained playoff run--when sometimes the QB has to put the team on his back and carry it. Or get out of tough down and distance jams that require throwing more than 15-yard lobs. You want a perennial 8-8 record? Nate's your man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: If the guy just had a little more zip in that arm he'd be the starter hands down before Josh is ready. Showed good vision, progression and control of the offense. Unfortunately his arm reminds me of Chad Pennington. If he's Chad Pennington (the pre-injury Chad) the Bills have struck gold. Who wouldn't want CP as a long term backup. People don't seem to realize that CP was a good starting calibre QB. I'd say Nate has a lot to prove before he is worthy of that comparison. Assuming he wins the job I think we find out very soon whether he can play at this level or not. Ravens are a tough D with good young corners and tough veteran safeties. Edited August 10, 2018 by starrymessenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Lurker said: Bupkis. He's Ryan Fitzpatrick 2.0. He can be an effective spot starter and look good against certain teams. But he can't throw with enough velocity to get a team through any kind of sustained playoff run--when sometimes the QB has to put the team on his back and carry it. Or get out of tough down and distance jams that require throwing more than 15-yard lobs. You want a perennial 8-8 record? Nate's your man... I’m not stating he is going to be the answer long term but the hate on this guy who is young and showed some promise is a bit much. People act like he’s worse than jeff Tuel or other ****ty qbs we’ve had the past 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Remember that time he got flushed out of the pocket, extended the play, and hit KB down the sideline for a first down?! Man....if only he had done that last night... Great throw and catch. I mentioned it several times in posts. Still didn’t show the things he needs to show to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I love the people who think a players value changes from series to series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 12 hours ago, WhickedWilliams said: His stock is the highest it’s ever been right now... Like EJ Manuel stock!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Trade: “Can I have one of yoursin for one of mysin?” Bait: “ Looky looky over here!” Peterman: neither of the above. great game, but this is just not happening and is unlikely to even be a scenerio for any fm in the league right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 hours ago, reddogblitz said: If McCarron is better, he should be on the team. We are trying to win. Agreed but I think with Allen emerging next year AJM will want to be released or traded to compete elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 42 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: If he's Chad Pennington (the pre-injury Chad) the Bills have struck gold. Who wouldn't want CP as a long term backup. People don't seem to realize that CP was a good starting calibre QB. I'd say Nate has a lot to prove before he is worthy of that comparison. Assuming he wins the job I think we find out very soon whether he can play at this level or not. Ravens are a tough D with good young corners and tough veteran safeties. As good as NP looked last night I was still left with a ho-hum feeling. I can only hope Josh becomes a lot more relevant than Chad P. To me he was the definition of average, Career 66% / 102 TDs, 64 INTs/ 200 yds per game. Sound familiar? It should cause we just got rid of a guy just like him but with running ability. I do agree with you that if Nate can evolve into a CP type clone that would be perfect for our back up position but as a starter, no way. Chad was pretty decent but we didn't draft Josh 7th overall to be decent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 There is no way. We are keeping 3 QBs this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 While short passing can be effective, you cant't do it exclusively. Other than the Streeter throw, that was Nate's night: Series 1: 1-10-BUF 15(12:31) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass incomplete short left to 39-T.Cadet. Receiver and coverage at BUF 27. PENALTY on CAR-27-K.Seymour, Defensive Pass Interference, 12 yards, enforced at BUF 15 - No Play. 1-10-BUF 27(12:26) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 18-A.Holmes to BUF 37 for 10 yards (27-K.Seymour). Caught in flat at BUF 31. 1-10-BUF 37(11:47) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 13-K.Benjamin to BUF 48 for 11 yards (58-T.Davis, 27-K.Seymour). Caught in flat at BUF 45. 1-10-BUF 48(11:07) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 13-K.Benjamin pushed ob at CAR 46 for 6 yards (54-S.Thompson). Caught near sideline at CAR 46. 2-4-CAR 46(10:22) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to CAR 49 for -3 yards (97-M.Addison, 29-M.Adams). 3-7-CAR 48(9:47) PENALTY on BUF-62-V.Ducasse, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at CAR 48 - No Play. 3-12-BUF 47(9:31) PENALTY on CAR-96-W.Horton, Neutral Zone Infraction, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 47 - No Play. 3-7-CAR 48(9:12) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 13-K.Benjamin pushed ob at CAR 34 for 14 yards (26-D.Jackson). Caught along sideline at CAR 34. 1-10-CAR 34(8:39) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 85-C.Clay to CAR 30 for 4 yards (54-S.Thompson). Caught near sideline at CAR 35. 2-6-CAR 30(8:07) 2-N.Peterman pass deep left to 81-R.Streater for 30 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty [92-V.Butler]. Caught near sideline, 6 yds. into end zone. Penalty on BUF-81-R.Streater, Offensive Pass Interference, offsetting, enforced at CAR 30 - No Play. Penalty on CAR-92-V.Butler, Roughing the Passer, offsetting. 2-6-CAR 30(8:01) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 39-T.Cadet to CAR 28 for 2 yards (58-T.Davis). Screen pass, caught at CAR 36. 3-4-CAR 28(7:23) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass deep left to 13-K.Benjamin for 28 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Caught near sideline at CAR 10. (the ball was in the air 18 yards and was dropped in, not zipped) Series 2: -10-BUF 27(2:09) 2-N.Peterman pass short middle to 33-C.Ivory to CAR 44 for 29 yards (26-D.Jackson). CAR-92-V.Butler was injured during the play. Caught at BUF 30, slanting to right. V.Butler walks off. 1-10-CAR 44(1:32) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 45-M.Murphy to CAR 29 for 15 yards (54-S.Thompson, 55-D.Mayo). Screen pass, caught at CAR 49. 1-10-CAR 29(:50) (Shotgun) 45-M.Murphy up the middle to CAR 26 for 3 yards (42-C.Jones). 2-7-CAR 26(:13) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short middle intended for 33-C.Ivory INTERCEPTED by 54-S.Thompson at CAR 21. 54-S.Thompson to CAR 27 for 6 yards (84-N.O'Leary). Through receiver's hands before INT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 12 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: If the guy just had a little more zip in that arm he'd be the starter hands down before Josh is ready. Showed good vision, progression and control of the offense. Unfortunately his arm reminds me of Chad Pennington. Nothing wrong with Chad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, wppete said: There is no way. We are keeping 3 QBs this year. Why not? And if not, who goes? I still think AJM gives them the best chance to win now if they put Josh on the back burner. Just now, Tyrod's friend said: Nothing wrong with Chad. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PennCh01.htm Nothing spectacular either. But for a back up role, more than good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, cd1 said: For those folks, it is no longer REALLY about Nate Peterman. NOW it is all about defending their (hasty) judgement/opinion. IF, Peterman ends up being the backup QB for the Bills, we will NEVER hear the end of it - EVER. Funny, "2 good series" was enough to crucify him, why shouldn't it be enough to resurrect him? Careful Nate haters, you soon will be in a position to aim your poor judgement at our newest rookie. WHEN will Josh make HIS fatal mistake? Im not a Nate hater im just saying 2 series is hardly enough to anoint him Savior and think we have a lot of trade bait. I never crucified him for his god awful 5 int game. thought that game had a lot to do with other aspects of the game than just NP. IE turnstyle mills watching Bosa fly by him all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lurker said: While short passing can be effective, you cant't do it exclusively. Other than the Streeter throw, that was Nate's night: Series 1: 1-10-BUF 15(12:31) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass incomplete short left to 39-T.Cadet. Receiver and coverage at BUF 27. PENALTY on CAR-27-K.Seymour, Defensive Pass Interference, 12 yards, enforced at BUF 15 - No Play. 1-10-BUF 27(12:26) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 18-A.Holmes to BUF 37 for 10 yards (27-K.Seymour). Caught in flat at BUF 31. 1-10-BUF 37(11:47) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 13-K.Benjamin to BUF 48 for 11 yards (58-T.Davis, 27-K.Seymour). Caught in flat at BUF 45. 1-10-BUF 48(11:07) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 13-K.Benjamin pushed ob at CAR 46 for 6 yards (54-S.Thompson). Caught near sideline at CAR 46. 2-4-CAR 46(10:22) 33-C.Ivory up the middle to CAR 49 for -3 yards (97-M.Addison, 29-M.Adams). 3-7-CAR 48(9:47) PENALTY on BUF-62-V.Ducasse, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at CAR 48 - No Play. 3-12-BUF 47(9:31) PENALTY on CAR-96-W.Horton, Neutral Zone Infraction, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 47 - No Play. 3-7-CAR 48(9:12) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 13-K.Benjamin pushed ob at CAR 34 for 14 yards (26-D.Jackson). Caught along sideline at CAR 34. 1-10-CAR 34(8:39) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 85-C.Clay to CAR 30 for 4 yards (54-S.Thompson). Caught near sideline at CAR 35. 2-6-CAR 30(8:07) 2-N.Peterman pass deep left to 81-R.Streater for 30 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty [92-V.Butler]. Caught near sideline, 6 yds. into end zone. Penalty on BUF-81-R.Streater, Offensive Pass Interference, offsetting, enforced at CAR 30 - No Play. Penalty on CAR-92-V.Butler, Roughing the Passer, offsetting. 2-6-CAR 30(8:01) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short left to 39-T.Cadet to CAR 28 for 2 yards (58-T.Davis). Screen pass, caught at CAR 36. 3-4-CAR 28(7:23) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass deep left to 13-K.Benjamin for 28 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Caught near sideline at CAR 10. (the ball was in the air 18 yards and was dropped in, not zipped) Series 2: -10-BUF 27(2:09) 2-N.Peterman pass short middle to 33-C.Ivory to CAR 44 for 29 yards (26-D.Jackson). CAR-92-V.Butler was injured during the play. Caught at BUF 30, slanting to right. V.Butler walks off. 1-10-CAR 44(1:32) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short right to 45-M.Murphy to CAR 29 for 15 yards (54-S.Thompson, 55-D.Mayo). Screen pass, caught at CAR 49. 1-10-CAR 29(:50) (Shotgun) 45-M.Murphy up the middle to CAR 26 for 3 yards (42-C.Jones). 2-7-CAR 26(:13) (Shotgun) 2-N.Peterman pass short middle intended for 33-C.Ivory INTERCEPTED by 54-S.Thompson at CAR 21. 54-S.Thompson to CAR 27 for 6 yards (84-N.O'Leary). Through receiver's hands before INT. So on ten passes, he threw long twice. Of the "short" passes, several were in the air a good amount of time because they were outs. And if I recall correctly, the pass to Benjamin HAD to be dropped in; if it was zipped, it would have been intercepted or knocked down. Not sure if any QB in the NFL throws long balls 20% of the time, but he completed both of them. 3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Why not? And if not, who goes? I still think AJM gives them the best chance to win now if they put Josh on the back burner. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PennCh01.htm Nothing spectacular either. But for a back up role, more than good enough. He was one of the most accurate QBs of his time. He was comeback player of the year, I think twice. He led a nondescript Jets team pretty well; you might want to look at his roster choices. If you have Chad Pennington in today's game, you are in the playoffs pretty regularly. Injury prone, for sure. But he'd rip you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, wppete said: There is no way. We are keeping 3 QBs this year. I think that would be the most prudent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: So on ten passes, he threw long twice. Of the "short" passes, several were in the air a good amount of time because they were outs. And if I recall correctly, the pass to Benjamin HAD to be dropped in; if it was zipped, it would have been intercepted or knocked down. Not sure if any QB in the NFL throws long balls 20% of the time, but he completed both of them. The question about Nate is arm strength and velocity. Very few examples of that last night. The throw to Streeter and the sideline throw to Benjamin are really all I can think of. And then he has to wind up like Fitzpatrick used to and really try to muscle the ball. Frankly, that's just not going to get him through many games when the D is game-planning to take away his short options... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: So on ten passes, he threw long twice. Of the "short" passes, several were in the air a good amount of time because they were outs. And if I recall correctly, the pass to Benjamin HAD to be dropped in; if it was zipped, it would have been intercepted or knocked down. Not sure if any QB in the NFL throws long balls 20% of the time, but he completed both of them. He was one of the most accurate QBs of his time. He was comeback player of the year, I think twice. He led a nondescript Jets team pretty well; you might want to look at his roster choices. If you have Chad Pennington in today's game, you are in the playoffs pretty regularly. Injury prone, for sure. But he'd rip you up. 18 yards in the air is not a long pass. Sorry. Regardless of the short v long delineation in that kind of play by play. And the other one wasnt a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Wsam4031 said: dude had 2 good series cmon> Not being a hater but lets see him play that way for a whole game and then ill think we have some trade bait. If he plays that well for the whole game id like to keep him though 2 good series in a preseason game........ Cant blame him for a historically bad 1/2 of a regular season game, but can annoint him a starter after 2 series in game 1 of the preseason....... This is coming from the same fanbase that thought Trent Edward's was also going to be a great starting QB...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: 18 yards in the air is not a long pass. Sorry. Regardless of the short v long delineation in that kind of play by play. And the other one wasnt a play. On his 9 completions, the ball was in the air for an average of less than seven yards. The rest was RATC. Very Chad Pennington-like, which makes for a great back up but ugly starter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Hey, maybe Nate would play better if someone else was calling the plays - wait... Maybe, just maybe, Nate was throwing the ball right where he was TOLD to throw the ball. You Nate-haters are just insufferable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: As good as NP looked last night I was still left with a ho-hum feeling. I can only hope Josh becomes a lot more relevant than Chad P. To me he was the definition of average, Career 66% / 102 TDs, 64 INTs/ 200 yds per game. Sound familiar? It should cause we just got rid of a guy just like him but with running ability. I do agree with you that if Nate can evolve into a CP type clone that would be perfect for our back up position but as a starter, no way. Chad was pretty decent but we didn't draft Josh 7th overall to be decent. 66% is pretty darn good. Couple hundred a game - meh, sort of Joe Montanaish. He also had his share of 300 yard games. Chad was narrowly beaten out by Peyton as league MVP one year. Twice comeback player of the year. Played a long time in the league. If NP can morph into Chad I'll be deliriously happy. Turning a fifth round pick into the equivalent of 18th overall. Sure if Allen can develop into Elway, he's the starter and with Nate/Chad backing him up the Bills would prolly have the best tandem under centre league wide. The rap against Nate is arm strength. I defer to more knowledgeable posters on this but I'm not sure arm strength alone will be the reason he fails to make it in the NFL. Maybe a stupid question but is his arm that much weaker than Drew Brees? Or Joe Montana? For almost all QBs, including the great one, so much depends on scheme and offensive philosophy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: So on ten passes, he threw long twice. Of the "short" passes, several were in the air a good amount of time because they were outs. And if I recall correctly, the pass to Benjamin HAD to be dropped in; if it was zipped, it would have been intercepted or knocked down. Not sure if any QB in the NFL throws long balls 20% of the time, but he completed both of them. He was one of the most accurate QBs of his time. He was comeback player of the year, I think twice. He led a nondescript Jets team pretty well; you might want to look at his roster choices. If you have Chad Pennington in today's game, you are in the playoffs pretty regularly. Injury prone, for sure. But he'd rip you up. Nondescript? You might want to check that 2003 Jets roster. Very good players both O and D. Chad was ok, but he'd be passable in todays league, not rip it up. He doesn't have the arm strength to keep Defenses and DB's honest in what is now a passing league. He'd need a serious run game to mask that arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Lurker said: The question about Nate is arm strength and velocity. Very few examples of that last night. The throw to Streeter and the sideline throw to Benjamin are really all I can think of. And then he has to wind up like Fitzpatrick used to and really try to muscle the ball. Frankly, that's just not going to get him through many games when the D is game-planning to take away his short options... Accuracy and release speed is enough - but they have to be plus components. I questioned the former in what I saw last year. Yesterday he couldn't have been any more accurate. Even that pass to Ivory was close enough for anyone that hopes to be catching balls in the NFL. The flip side of speed is that balls aren't catchable. You saw that last night with Allen, several times; those jokes about broken fingers are real and they cause more turnovers than a weak arm will cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 13 hours ago, DC Tom said: I'm pretty sure Cleveland will give up at least a third rounder. Because...y'know, Cleveland. Don't be surprised if we also get Drew Carey and Mimi in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Nondescript? You might want to check that 2003 Jets roster. Very good players both O and D. Chad was ok, but he'd be passable in todays league, not rip it up. He doesn't have the arm strength to keep Defenses and DB's honest in what is now a passing league. He'd need a serious run game to mask that arm. Pennington career stats: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV Career 89 81 44-37-0 1632 2471 66.0 17823 102 4.1 64 2.6 80 7.2 6.9 10.9 200.3 90.1 162 965 6.40 6.08 6.2 7 10 62 8 yrs NYJ 69 61 32-29-0 1259 1919 65.6 13738 82 4.3 55 2.9 71 7.2 6.7 10.9 199.1 88.9 132 812 6.30 5.90 6.4 6 8 48 3 yrs MIA 20 20 12-8-0 373 552 67.6 4085 20 3.6 9 1.6 80 7.4 7.4 11.0 204.3 94.5 30 153 6.76 6.75 5.2 1 2 14 2000 24 NYJ 10 1 0 2 5 40.0 67 1 20.0 0 0.0 62 13.4 17.4 33.5 67.0 127.1 1 4 10.50 13.83 16.7 0 2001 25 NYJ 10 2 0 10 20 50.0 92 1 5.0 0 0.0 24 4.6 5.6 9.2 46.0 79.6 1 8 4.00 4.95 4.8 0 2002 26 NYJ QB 10 15 12 8-4-0 275 399 68.9 3120 22 5.5 6 1.5 47 7.8 8.2 11.3 208.0 104.2 22 135 7.09 7.49 5.2 1 2 12 2003 27 NYJ QB 10 10 9 4-5-0 189 297 63.6 2139 13 4.4 12 4.0 65 7.2 6.3 11.3 213.9 82.9 25 160 6.15 5.28 7.8 2 2 7 2004 28 NYJ QB 10 13 13 8-5-0 242 370 65.4 2673 16 4.3 9 2.4 48 7.2 7.0 11.0 205.6 91.0 18 103 6.62 6.40 4.6 2 2 10 2005 29 NYJ qb 10 3 3 1-2-0 49 83 59.0 530 2 2.4 3 3.6 37 6.4 5.2 10.8 176.7 70.9 9 52 5.20 4.16 9.8 2 2006 30 NYJ QB 10 16 16 10-6-0 313 485 64.5 3352 17 3.5 16 3.3 71 6.9 6.1 10.7 209.5 82.6 62.3 30 172 6.17 5.44 5.8 1 2 12 2007 31 NYJ QB 10 9 8 1-7-0 179 260 68.8 1765 10 3.8 9 3.5 57 6.8 6.0 9.9 196.1 86.1 49.1 26 178 5.55 4.83 9.1 5 2008 32 MIA QB 10 16 16 11-5-0 321 476 67.4 3653 19 4.0 7 1.5 80 7.7 7.8 11.4 228.3 97.4 69.7 24 121 7.06 7.19 4.8 1 2 13 2009 33 MIA qb 10 3 3 0-3-0 51 74 68.9 413 1 1.4 2 2.7 21 5.6 4.6 8.1 137.7 76.0 48.2 6 32 4.76 3.89 7.5 1 2010 34 MIA qb 10 1 1 1-0-0 1 2 50.0 19 0 0.0 0 0.0 19 9.5 9.5 19.0 19.0 83.3 95.4 0 0 9.50 9.50 0.0 0 Edited August 10, 2018 by Lurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Boludo said: Team hasn't had good QB in 20 years, and people are talking about trying to trade away a young QB that is showing a bit of possible potential. Classic Bills fans. Hahaha,I know,Can you believe them? 44 minutes ago, wppete said: There is no way. We are keeping 3 QBs this year. We Should! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Nondescript? You might want to check that 2003 Jets roster. Very good players both O and D. Chad was ok, but he'd be passable in todays league, not rip it up. He doesn't have the arm strength to keep Defenses and DB's honest in what is now a passing league. He'd need a serious run game to mask that arm. Lamar Jackson DeShaun Watson Tyrod Taylor .. all spinned at or less than Peterman at the Combine. There are stacks of QBs throwing within 2 MPH of Peterman. And that assumes that Peterman didn't - as is widely suggested - improve his speed this past offseason. I think Drew Brees gets by pretty good with a not so impressive arm. When Brady came into the league, he was widely thought of as having not the best arm in football. Arm strength is BS. You cannot game plan for release or for accuracy or mental makeup. And outside of 2003, Pennington had a pretty poor group of teammates, but he won plenty of games. He'd win as many today. I think you are way, way undervaluing the guy - I saw a lot of his games, being a Long Island guy. He was the reason his teams won games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills757 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Trade bait?! Haha. I'm not sure how many teams in the NFL are clamoring to trade for a QB with one start and a TD to INT ratio of .4. If we somehow find a GM that stupid, let me know.....I have some swamp land for sale at a great price. OP has to be trolling...haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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