Why Is Our Government Putting People In Cages?

[Tiberius]

 

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As a matter of policy, the US government is separating families who seek asylum in the US by crossing the border illegally.

Dozens of parents are being split from their children each day — the children labeled “unaccompanied minors” and sent to government custody or foster care, the parents labeled criminals and sent to jail.

To many critics of the Trump administration, family separation is an unpardonable atrocity. Articles depict children crying themselves to sleep because they don’t know where their parents are; one Honduran man killed himself in a detention cell after his child was taken from him.

But the horror can make it hard to wrap your head around the policy.

Family separation isn’t sudden, nor is it arbitrary. While the Trump administration claims it’s taking extraordinary measures in response to a temporary surge, it is entirely possible this will be the new normal. 

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/children-immigrant-families-separated-parents

 

F'n barbaric 

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Quoted from Jennifer Rubin at Washington post 

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The Southern Baptist Convention issued their own statement. It is quoted at length because it is so powerful:

WHEREAS, Every man, woman, and child from every language, race, and nation is a special creation of God, made in His own image (Genesis 1:26–27); and

WHEREAS, Longings to protect one’s family from warfare, violence, disease, extreme poverty, and other destitute conditions are universal, driving millions of people to leave their homelands to seek a better life for themselves, their children, and their grandchildren; and

WHEREAS, God commands His people to treat immigrants with the same respect and dignity as those native born (Leviticus 19:33–34; Jeremiah 7:5–7; Ezekiel 47:22; Zechariah 7:9–10); and

WHEREAS, Scripture is clear on the believer’s hospitality towards immigrants, stating that meeting the material needs of “strangers” is tantamount to serving the Lord Jesus Himself (Matthew 25:35–40; Hebrews 13:2); and

WHEREAS, Southern Baptists affirm the value of the family, stating in The Baptist Faith and Message that “God has ordained the family as the foundational institution of human society” (Article XVIII), and Scripture makes clear that parents are uniquely responsible to raise their children “in the training and instruction of the Lord” (Ephesians 6:4).  . . .

RESOLVED, That the messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Dallas, Texas, June 12–13, 2018, affirm the value and dignity of immigrants, regardless of their race, religion, ethnicity, culture, national origin, or legal status; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we desire to see immigration reform include an emphasis on securing our borders and providing a pathway to legal status with appropriate restitutionary measures, maintaining the priority of family unity, resulting in an efficient immigration system that honors the value and dignity of those seeking a better life for themselves and their families; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we declare that any form of nativism, mistreatment, or exploitation is inconsistent with the gospel of Jesus Christ; and be it further

RESOLVED, That we encourage all elected officials, especially those who are members of Southern Baptist churches, to do everything in their power to advocate for a just and equitable immigration system, those in the professional community to seek ways to administer just and compassionate care for the immigrants in their community, and our Southern Baptist entities to provide resources that will equip and empower churches and church members to reach and serve immigrant communities. . . .

 

 

Edited July 4, 2019 by Tiberius

[3rdnlng]

15 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/children-immigrant-families-separated-parents

 

F'n barbaric 

********

 

Quoted from Jennifer Rubin at Washington post 

 

It's simple, so there's a chance (slim) that you might understand it. It's the law. It happened under Obama too and it happens all the time to actual citizens.

[Cinga]

10 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

It's simple, so there's a chance (slim) that you might understand it. It's the law. It happened under Obama too and it happens all the time to actual citizens.

And it happens to Americans but Tibs doesn't care about that, only the lib talking points.

 

If an American mom or pop is convicted of a crime, they are also then separated from their families right Gator? Amnesty for all parents?

 

This has to be the dumbest talking point the liberal talking heads have ever come up with... 

[unbillievable]

1 minute ago, Cinga said:

And it happens to Americans but Tibs doesn't care about that, only the lib talking points.

 

If an American mom or pop is convicted of a crime, they are also then separated from their families right Gator? Amnesty for all parents?

 

This has to be the dumbest talking point the liberal talking heads have ever come up with... 

 

The easiest answer is to not separate them. Leave the kids with their parents and deport the entire family.

 

Of course, the reason they started separating the kids was to stop traffickers...

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, Cinga said:

And it happens to Americans but Tibs doesn't care about that, only the lib talking points.

 

If an American mom or pop is convicted of a crime, they are also then separated from their families right Gator? Amnesty for all parents?

 

This has to be the dumbest talking point the liberal talking heads have ever come up with... 

It's the libs way of trying to force the feds to release the parents to appear in court at some future date.

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, Cinga said:

And it happens to Americans but Tibs doesn't care about that, only the lib talking points.

 

If an American mom or pop is convicted of a crime, they are also then separated from their families right Gator? Amnesty for all parents?

 

This has to be the dumbest talking point the liberal talking heads have ever come up with... 

It's evil. 

 

The Catholic Church, the Southern Baptists, Jewish groups are all denouncing this. And rightfully so. 

 

Why are you saying its liberals bashing this? Would that make it ok? 

[Koko78]

23 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

It's simple, so there's a chance (slim) that you might understand it. It's the law. It happened under Obama too and it happens all the time to actual citizens.

 

I think it's patently unfair that a man was just brutally and barbarically separated from his children simply because he murdered a few people, or robbed a bank, broke into a home, beat his wife, or drove without a license. He should be allowed to raise his children 24/7 while being detained for violating the law, damnit!

[Tiberius]

___

 

I'm sure these Jewish groups all know about the ship St. Louis and anti-immigration hysteria surrounding it. 

 

But hey, Liberals or something. 

 

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/jewish-orgs-letter-sessions-nielsen-family-separations-2018-06-12.pdf

 

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June 12, 2018 The Honorable Jeff Sessions Attorney General U.S. Department of Justice Washington, DC 20530 The Honorable Kirstjen Nielsen Secretary of Homeland Security Department of Homeland Security Washington, DC 20528 Dear Attorney General Sessions and Secretary Nielsen, On behalf of the 26 undersigned national Jewish organizations and institutions, we write to express our strong opposition to the recently expanded “zero-tolerance” policy that includes separating children from their migrant parents when they cross the border. This policy undermines the values of our nation and jeopardizes the safety and well-being of thousands of people. As Jews, we understand the plight of being an immigrant fleeing violence and oppression. We believe that the United States is a nation of immigrants and how we treat the stranger reflects on the moral values and ideals of this nation. Many of these migrant families are seeking asylum in the United States to escape violence in Central America. Taking children away from their families is unconscionable. Such practices inflict unnecessary trauma on parents and children, many of whom have already suffered traumatic experiences. This added trauma negatively impacts physical and mental health, including increasing the risk of early death.1 Separating families is a cruel punishment for children and families simply seeking a better life and exacerbates existing challenges in our immigration system. It adds to the backlog of deportation cases and legal challenges in federal courts, places thousands more immigrants in detention facilities and shelters, endangers the lives of more children, and instills additional fear in people seeking safety in our country. In addition, those seeking asylum or other legal protection face numerous obstacles to making a claim, especially from detention. Separating family members at the border would force families into two or more immigration cases instead of a single case for each family, harming their ability to present a successful case. Our Jewish faith demands of us concern for the stranger in our midst. Our own people’s history as “strangers” reminds us of the many struggles faced by immigrants today and compels our commitment to an immigration system in this country that is compassionate and just. We urge 1 Michael MacKenzie, Emily Bosk, and Charles Zeanah, “Separation Families at the BorderConsequences for Children’s Health and Well-Being,” New England Journal of Medicine, June 15, 2017, available at https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp1703375. you to immediately rescind the “zero tolerance” policy and uphold the values of family unity and justice on which our nation was built. Sincerely, American Conference of Cantors American Jewish Committee (AJC) American Jewish World Service Anti-Defamation League B’nai B’rith International Bend the Arc Jewish Action Central Conference of American Rabbis Hadassah, The Women's Zionist Organization of America, Inc. HIAS Jewish Council for Public Affairs Jewish Labor Committee Jewish Women International Men of Reform Judaism National Association of Jewish Legislators National Council of Jewish Women Network of Jewish Human Service Agencies NFTY – The Reform Jewish Youth Movement Rabbinical Assembly Reconstructing Judaism Reconstructionist Rabbinical Association The Workmen's Circle T'ruah: The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights Union for Reform Judaism United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism Uri L'Tzedek, The Orthodox Socia

 

[Cinga]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's evil. 

 

The Catholic Church, the Southern Baptists, Jewish groups are all denouncing this. And rightfully so. 

 

Why are you saying its liberals bashing this? Would that make it ok? 

I know reading is hard, but where does it stop? Is it only illegals we're discussing here? What about American families that are split up every F..... day? Do they matter to you? Or is it only potential votes that matter?

And I don't care about those religious groups either. Most of them, like you, want open borders. It's the law, don't like it, change the law.

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Cinga said:

I know reading is hard, but where does it stop? Is it only illegals we're discussing here? What about American families that are split up every F..... day? Do they matter to you? Or is it only potential votes that matter?

And I don't care about those religious groups either. Most of them, like you, want open borders. It's the law, don't like it, change the law.

It's not the law. Stop spitting out Trump lies, makes you look like a Trump cultist 

[outsidethebox]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

___

 

I'm sure these Jewish groups all know about the ship St. Louis and anti-immigration hysteria surrounding it. 

 

But hey, Liberals or something. 

 

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/jewish-orgs-letter-sessions-nielsen-family-separations-2018-06-12.pdf

 

 

I thought this was concerning mexicans. All you have is, but jews!!!

[LeviF]

Reading vox

Taking the adl at their word

 

u wot m8?

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, westside said:

I thought this was concerning mexicans. All you have is, but jews!!!

Seriously, that's the best you came up with? Damn, that's even lower than a 3RDthing response 

****

 

Ok, next reaction, blame the media source! 

[LeviF]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's not the law. Stop spitting out Trump lies, makes you look like a Trump cultist 

 

What is the law then? 

[outsidethebox]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Seriously, that's the best you came up with? Damn, that's even lower than a 3RDthing response 

****

 

Ok, next reaction, blame the media source! 

Let's get some pictures of orphaned children from 2014 and blame Trump for it!

 

Serious question, why didnt it bother you then?

You're so dishonest.......

[Cinga]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's not the law. Stop spitting out Trump lies, makes you look like a Trump cultist 

Let's see.....

Did the parents break the law by crossing the border illegally? check

Should the parents go to jail for this by law? check

Should children go to jail with the parents? Yes according to Gator huh?

 

Now, answer the Fu.... question... Should we also stop separating American families when a parent breaks the law? Or is this fake compassion only for illegals?

1 minute ago, westside said:

Let's get some pictures of orphaned children from 2014 and blame Trump for it!

 

Serious question, why didnt it bother you then?

You're so dishonest.......

Yup... he gets his talking points from the same people Tapper gets his... 

[B-Man]

Why do you waste your time ?                 

 

He is NEVER going to answer your questions.

 

He posts the latest liberal diversion

 

Five immediate common sense responses............and what do we get ?

 

 His ONLY two replies

 

"you are Trump lovers"........................."You are blaming the media"

 

 

 

It is ALL he has got...............ignore it.

 

 

 

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Edited June 15, 2018 by B-Man

[row_33]

8 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Why do you waste your time ?                 

 

He is NEVER going to answer your questions.

 

He posts the latest liberal diversion

 

Five immediate common sense responses............and what do we get ?

 

 

 

 

only talk to liberals if you have that much time to waste

 

they don't listen, they don't care what you have to say

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

 

2. RIPPED AWAY

an hour ago

Report: Almost 2,000 Children Ripped From Families at Border

 

 

 

 

JOHN MOORE/ GETTY IMAGES

 

According to Homeland Security figures obtained Friday by the Associated Press, 1,995 minors were taken at the border from 1,940 adults between April 19 and May 31. These separations follow Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ announcement of his “zero-tolerance” policy for undocumented immigrants at the border, which mandates that anyone attempting to cross the border illegally will be seized and prosecuted. “If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday, as cited by NBC News. “If you don't like that, then don't smuggle children over our border.” As another NBC News article notes, there is no law requiring border officials to separate children from their families. 

 

READ IT AT AP NEWS

[keepthefaith]

The real question is why we even detain illegal immigrants coming over the border at all.  We should adopt a 180 policy.  Turn around and get the hell out of here.  That will keep the families together. 

[Tiberius]

50 minutes ago, Cinga said:

Let's see.....

Did the parents break the law by crossing the border illegally? check

Should the parents go to jail for this by law? check

Should children go to jail with the parents? Yes according to Gator huh?

 

Now, answer the Fu.... question... Should we also stop separating American families when a parent breaks the law? Or is this fake compassion only for illegals?

Yup... he gets his talking points from the same people Tapper gets his... 

People escaping oppression and violence are doing what's best for their children, until Trump confiscated them 

 

and this is a Pro-Life crowd? Ya right. 

54 minutes ago, westside said:

Let's get some pictures of orphaned children from 2014 and blame Trump for it!

 

Serious question, why didnt it bother you then?

You're so dishonest.......

Link? What are you talking about (making up?) ? 

[DC Tom]

33 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Link? What are you talking about (making up?) ? 

 

Even for you, this is !@#$ing stupid.

[Koko78]

38 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

As another NBC News article notes, there is no law requiring border officials to separate children from their families.

 

I love the rather obvious liberal sleight-of-hand here. They somehow forget to mention that there are laws and regulations on the books prohibiting incarcerating children in the same facilities as adult offenders.

[3rdnlng]

8 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

I love the rather obvious liberal sleight-of-hand here. They somehow forget to mention that there are laws and regulations on the books prohibiting incarcerating children in the same facilities as adult offenders.

If we were incarcerating the kids with the adults the libs would be complaining about it just as much. It's not the kids that they care about, it's the fact that they want the adults released out in the country with a promise that they will return for a court date sometime in the future. In other words they want open borders.

[Paulus]

The Flores Settlement. 

 

To answer OP's question. 

Edited June 15, 2018 by Paulus

[Koko78]

25 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

If we were incarcerating the kids with the adults the libs would be complaining about it just as much. It's not the kids that they care about, it's the fact that they want the adults released out in the country with a promise that they will return for a court date sometime in the future. In other words they want open borders.

 

I believe that they don't want open borders so much as they want to pander to the Latino vote. Don't get me wrong, I'd wager they want open borders and no-questions-asked voting, but their primary focus is getting the large Latino population to vote in a block for them.

 

The Democrats could have had a DACA fix any time they wanted, but will not accept anything where Trump can take the narrative away from them.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

I believe that they don't want open borders so much as they want to pander to the Latino vote. Don't get me wrong, I'd wager they want open borders and no-questions-asked voting, but their primary focus is getting the large Latino population to vote in a block for them.

 

The Democrats could have had a DACA fix any time they wanted, but will not accept anything where Trump can take the narrative away from them.

 

No, they want illegal immigration unfettered. Because more democrats.

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

5 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

I believe that they don't want open borders so much as they want to pander to the Latino vote. Don't get me wrong, I'd wager they want open borders and no-questions-asked voting, but their primary focus is getting the large Latino population to vote in a block for them.

 

The Democrats could have had a DACA fix any time they wanted, but will not accept anything where Trump can take the narrative away from them.

 

Exactly.  The solution has no political value to them, so they have no interest in solving the problem, or helping the people impacted.  What they want is precisely for Latinos to suffer so that they can use them as a voting block by controlling the issue.

 

It's the exact same motivations they have for keeping black Americans in poverty.

Edited June 15, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker

[B-Man]

6 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

The Democrats could have had a DACA fix any time they wanted, but will not accept anything where Trump can take the narrative away from them.

 

 

For those of you with an actual memory...................

 

 

On the one hand, separating kids from parents really is a draconian deterrent.

 

On the other hand, the modern Democratic Party doesn’t support deterrents to illegal immigration, full stop. And I don’t mean the lefty fringes of the party; I mean the party.

 

Review Hillary Clinton’s statements on immigration two years ago and remind yourself that, as with abortion, the left is far more of an absolutist contingent on this issue than the right is. Their position, as articulated piecemeal by Hillary on the stump, is that any non-criminal who wants to bring his family here should be allowed to. Forced to choose between a draconian deterrent and no deterrent, what do you do?

 

There’s bad faith in their position too. Last night there was a tornado on Twitter when reporters started posting photos from a shelter for separated kids being run by the feds. It was a prison! There was even a mural of Trump painted on the wall next to a quote about victory, in creepy vintage MAGA cultish fashion. But read WaPo’s story about the facility, which is nicely balanced. Turns out there’s a mural of Obama too. The kids go to class, there’s a rec room, they get a few hours outside to play, there are medical exam rooms, etc etc. It’s a dorm, essentially — a dreary one (it’s housed in what used to be a Walmart) and certainly not preferable to bunking with mom and dad, but it’s not Leavenworth. Kids are gone in an average of 49 days. I’m open to a softer deterrent. I’m not open to the Democratic alternative, which is no deterrent.

 

 

Paul Ryan told reporters this morning that he doesn’t like the policy either and that he’s willing to end it by legislation — but of course he’ll insist on some other enforcement measures as his price. And true to form, the leader of the no-deterrent caucus won’t go for that:

 

Democrat hypocrisy mixed with desperation = this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/14/reporter-yells-sanders-wheres-empathy-kids-separated-border-parents/

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Edited June 15, 2018 by B-Man

[Teddy KGB]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/children-immigrant-families-separated-parents

 

F'n barbaric 

********

 

Quoted from Jennifer Rubin at Washington post 

 

 

 

Maybe your god can break it down for you ?Head 

Edited June 16, 2018 by Teddy KGB

[DC Tom]

That's about a third as many children as New Jersey separated from their families over the same time period.

[Dante]

9 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

2. RIPPED AWAY

an hour ago

Report: Almost 2,000 Children Ripped From Families at Border

 

 

 

 

JOHN MOORE/ GETTY IMAGES

 

According to Homeland Security figures obtained Friday by the Associated Press, 1,995 minors were taken at the border from 1,940 adults between April 19 and May 31. These separations follow Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ announcement of his “zero-tolerance” policy for undocumented immigrants at the border, which mandates that anyone attempting to cross the border illegally will be seized and prosecuted. “If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday, as cited by NBC News. “If you don't like that, then don't smuggle children over our border.” As another NBC News article notes, there is no law requiring border officials to separate children from their families. 

 

READ IT AT AP NEWS

I love the picture of the gun in the foreground and the sweet innocent illegal looking confused. Classic! 

 

[row_33]

Abortion is the worst separation

 

 

[ALF]

 This was a deliberate policy shift by the Trump administration. They have the power to unilaterally reverse it. It's legal, no question, but it's purely the administration's decision.

1. The President's immigration bill got all of 39 votes in the Senate (the bipartisan effort also fell short of the 60 votes needed to move forward, but received more support.)

 

While it's designed, as Attorney General Jeff Sessions describes it, to have a deterrent effect, it's also a negotiating play to try and force Democrats to the table on immigration legislation the President favors.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/family-separation-democrats-trump/index.html

 

 This border policy is leverage to get $25B for the wall and eliminate chain migration , visa lottery  ...

 

I would be ok with this and DACA resolution the sooner the better . If Democrats have the WH and Congress some day they can change it if they want.

 

If Democrats just use this family separation for a Nov campaign issue I will be very disappointed in them.

 

Elections have consequences since we don't have bipartisan cooperation. 

 

Asylum in the United States

 Total annual asylum grants averaged 23,669 between FY 2007 and FY 2016.

 

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-states

Edited June 16, 2018 by ALF

[Prickly Pete]

They know what will happen at the border. They know the laws will  be enforced. It's not a secret.

 

Yet they keep dragging their kids to the border.

[3rdnlng]

2 hours ago, ALF said:

 This was a deliberate policy shift by the Trump administration. They have the power to unilaterally reverse it. It's legal, no question, but it's purely the administration's decision.

1. The President's immigration bill got all of 39 votes in the Senate (the bipartisan effort also fell short of the 60 votes needed to move forward, but received more support.)

 

While it's designed, as Attorney General Jeff Sessions describes it, to have a deterrent effect, it's also a negotiating play to try and force Democrats to the table on immigration legislation the President favors.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/family-separation-democrats-trump/index.html

 

 This border policy is leverage to get $25B for the wall and eliminate chain migration , visa lottery  ...

 

I would be ok with this and DACA resolution the sooner the better . If Democrats have the WH and Congress some day they can change it if they want.

 

If Democrats just use this family separation for a Nov campaign issue I will be very disappointed in them.

 

Elections have consequences since we don't have bipartisan cooperation. 

 

Asylum in the United States

 

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-states

From your link:

 

But -- and this is a key: the bill does nothing to prohibit the criminal prosecution of parents who cross the border illegally, i.e. the current Trump Administration policy that is driving the separation (children can't be brought into the criminal justice system).

In other words: It does nothing to stop the current policy. It just requires the government to keep them together when in the custody of the Department of Homeland Security.

So here's the bottom line: the bill touches on the issue, but it's hardly a fix.

As one Democratic staffer told CNN: "The answer to separating families is not to put them behind bars."

 

They committed a !@#$ing crime, why shouldn't they be prosecuted?

Edited June 16, 2018 by 3rdnlng

[Albwan]

    I'm still waiting for the answer to why do democrats have OCD

about illegal immigrants? Do any of these people have even the slightest

clue or care about long term ramifications of this?

   It's astonishing to me that a group people are demanding that our taxes

be spent on taking care of people who just sneak in and become squatters...

why aren't these same democrats showing the same fervent fever of humanity

towards homeless people or hungry people, who are from the US?

[MILFHUNTER#518]

Beautiful...

 

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/06/15/photos-inside-shelter-for-illegal-alien-children-separated-from-parents/

 

The Department of Health and Human Services hosted Breitbart News and other media on a tour of a facility in El Cajon, California, on Friday where migrant children are being sheltered after being separated from their parents.

The children are separated from their parents — or, to be precise, from the adults accompanying them, who may or may not be their parents — when their parents cross the southern U.S. border illegally and are caught and detained.

Previously, under the “catch-and-release” policy, the adults would be released. Under the “zero tolerance” policy of the Trump administration, the adults are being detained and prosecuted. Children cannot be incarcerated with them.

However, families that arrive together at legal ports of entry and apply for asylum status are generally not split up and are permitted to stay in the U.S. pending the adjudication of their applications (which can take several years).

Democrats and the mainstream media have accused the administration of separating the children of “immigrants” from their parents and imprisoning them in “cages.” On Thursday, CNN analyst and Playboy reporter Brian Karem shouted at White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “These people have nothing. They come to the border with nothing and you throw children in cages.” None of the reporters in the briefing room corrected him.

The facility at El Cajon, however, is not a “cage.” It is a comfortable facility providing lodging, meals, clothing, medical care, education, recreation, counseling, and other services.

 

 

[3rdnlng]

15 minutes ago, Albwan said:

    I'm still waiting for the answer to why do democrats have OCD

about illegal immigrants? Do any of these people have even the slightest

clue or care about long term ramifications of this?

   It's astonishing to me that a group people are demanding that our taxes

be spent on taking care of people who just sneak in and become squatters...

why aren't these same democrats showing the same fervent fever of humanity

towards homeless people or hungry people, who are from the US?

Have you seen pictures of the housing and descriptions of how the illegal alien children are being treated? Since we are prohibited by law to house children with adults in a detention facility, what should we do with them? The average time a child spends in one of these facilities is 49 days. That's the time it takes for the government to hook them up with a relative or a sponsor. This is being done to protect the children from abuse or homelessness. The real question to ask is why we are detaining their parents (or whatever the adult they are found with)? It's because they tried to sneak into the U.S. illegally. They deserve to be detained and deported if they haven't presented themselves at a port of entry requesting asylum.

 

 

3 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

Beautiful...

 

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/06/15/photos-inside-shelter-for-illegal-alien-children-separated-from-parents/

 

The Department of Health and Human Services hosted Breitbart News and other media on a tour of a facility in El Cajon, California, on Friday where migrant children are being sheltered after being separated from their parents.

The children are separated from their parents — or, to be precise, from the adults accompanying them, who may or may not be their parents — when their parents cross the southern U.S. border illegally and are caught and detained.

Previously, under the “catch-and-release” policy, the adults would be released. Under the “zero tolerance” policy of the Trump administration, the adults are being detained and prosecuted. Children cannot be incarcerated with them.

However, families that arrive together at legal ports of entry and apply for asylum status are generally not split up and are permitted to stay in the U.S. pending the adjudication of their applications (which can take several years).

Democrats and the mainstream media have accused the administration of separating the children of “immigrants” from their parents and imprisoning them in “cages.” On Thursday, CNN analyst and Playboy reporter Brian Karem shouted at White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “These people have nothing. They come to the border with nothing and you throw children in cages.” None of the reporters in the briefing room corrected him.

The facility at El Cajon, however, is not a “cage.” It is a comfortable facility providing lodging, meals, clothing, medical care, education, recreation, counseling, and other services.

 

 

I was just going to link this to my post above.

[Azalin]

20 hours ago, B-Man said:

Why do you waste your time ?                 

 

 

Exactly. The thread itself is 100% troll. He just sits back and laughs at the replies, stoking it here & there for maximum entertainment.