Zane Beadles cut by 49ers

[RPbillsfan]

Zane Beadles was cut by the San Francisco 49ers.  Is 31, would be a low cost addition to the offensive line and provide back-up depth at both guard and tackle.  This would allow the Bills to start Groy at center, possibly a guard combo of Miller, Beadles and Ducasse as we bring Teller along.  Dawkins, Mills, Newhouse and McDermott at T.  Solid line with depth when we include Bodine.

 

thoughts?

[ALF]

49ers released OG Zane Beadles.

Beadles had one season remaining on the three-year, $11.75 million deal he signed in 2016. The move clears $3.5 million against the cap. A mega-bust at left guard in 2016, Beadles was no better as he shifted all along the line last season. The former second-rounder turns 32 in November. May 7 - 

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5833/zane-beadles

 

doesn't sound good

[atlbillsfan1975]

I have a feeling the Bills aren’t going to sign anyone yet for interior line help. The staff is going to see how Bodine, Groy, Miller, Ducasse, and Teller shake out for starters and depth. Tackle is more concerning. At least between Bodine, Groy, Miller, and Ducasse there are some quality NFL starts. Once you get past Dawkins, Newhouse and Mills at tackle, what is left is a big unknown. Heck even Mills and Newhouse are hopes that they play the best they ever have to be decent.

 

 

[billsredneck1]

1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said:

Zane Beadles was cut by the San Francisco 49ers.  Is 31, would be a low cost addition to the offensive line and provide back-up depth at both guard and tackle.  This would allow the Bills to start Groy at center, possibly a guard combo of Miller, Beadles and Ducasse as we bring Teller along.  Dawkins, Mills, Newhouse and McDermott at T.  Solid line with depth when we include Bodine.

 

thoughts?

i would assume bodine will be under center with a.j. having worked with him for 4 yrs.

that being said, i would think...dawkins / groy,teller / bodine / miller,ducasse / newhouse

Edited May 8, 2018 by billsredneck1

[CSBill]

I think McDermott is the key, if he progresses and wins the starting job---because he is better than Mills and Newhouse, the line will be in good shape. .... We are solid in the middle, probably no all-pros, but decent depth and abilities there, the key is the development of a quality Right Tackle. I'm hoping it's McDermott on merit.

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said:

i would assume bodine will be under center with a.j. having worked with him for 4 yrs.

that being said, i would think...dawkins / groy,teller / bodine / miller,ducasse / newhouse

 

So you really believe the retirement plan by Richie Incognito ?? 

 

 

[nucci]

1 hour ago, RPbillsfan said:

Zane Beadles was cut by the San Francisco 49ers.  Is 31, would be a low cost addition to the offensive line and provide back-up depth at both guard and tackle.  This would allow the Bills to start Groy at center, possibly a guard combo of Miller, Beadles and Ducasse as we bring Teller along.  Dawkins, Mills, Newhouse and McDermott at T.  Solid line with depth when we include Bodine.

 

thoughts?

Bodine will start at Center

[billsredneck1]

13 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

 

So you really believe the retirement plan by Richie Incognito ?? 

 

 

i hadn't thought about that lately...since drafting teller. i guess i wouldn't be surprised if richie showed up around july, but i'm ready to move on. this was likely his last year here anyway. we were gonna face this turnover starting next year, but i think it will work out better going through it this year.

[Doc]

RI may want to come back, but I think the Bills have moved on. 

 

And and I see the line as: Dawkins-Teller-Groy-Miller-McDermott and I’m okay with that. 

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said:

i hadn't thought about that lately...since drafting teller. i guess i wouldn't be surprised if richie showed up around july, but i'm ready to move on. this was likely his last year here anyway. we were gonna face this turnover starting next year, but i think it will work out better going through it this year.

 

1 mil should do the trick. The Bills need to stop playing around before it truly becomes to late.

 

This is a team leader Pro bowl player.

Edited May 8, 2018 by HOUSE

[billsredneck1]

Just now, HOUSE said:

 

1 mil should do the trick. The Bills need to stop playing around before it truly becomes to late.

 

This is a team leader Pro bowl player

i haven't heard a word about him in quite a while and i listen to the bills talk everyday. (wgr and 950)

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said:

i haven't heard a word about him in quite a while and i listen to the bills talk everyday. (wgr and 950)

 

Its a dark secret that escapes the media. The Bills need to tear up the old deal then start from scratch before it becomes to late.

Edited May 8, 2018 by HOUSE

[Hapless Bills Fan]

53 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

So you really believe the retirement plan by Richie Incognito ?? 

 

I don't know if the Bills believe the retirement plan by Richie Incognito, but if he's "just kidding!" I don't think Beane and Co are amused.

 

12 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Its a dark secret that escapes the media. The Bills need to tear up the old deal then start from scratch before it becomes to late.

 

I'm Richie, I don't hold my breath. 

 

17 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

1 mil should do the trick. The Bills need to stop playing around before it truly becomes to late.

This is a team leader Pro bowl player

 

I don't think the former and the latter statement go together. 

 

I don't think Beane and McDermott are interested in "team leaders" who sign a contract, then try to hold them to ransom while having a public hissy fit on social media or whatever that was.

[MrEpsYtown]

Beadles has been an okay player for a number of years. He was a bust in Jacksonville as a big free agent signing and I think it is because he is a poor fit for power running teams. He really excelled as a zone based lineman because finesse and speed is more his game than power. I very much prefer Joeckel or Boone, but if they aren't happy with the LG spot, this guy makes some sense. 

[HOUSE]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't know if the Bills believe the retirement plan by Richie Incognito, but if he's "just kidding!" I don't think Beane and Co are amused.

 

 

I'm Richie, I don't hold my breath. 

 

 

I don't think the former and the latter statement go together. 

 

I don't think Beane and McDermott are interested in "team leaders" who sign a contract, then try to hold them to ransom while having a public hissy fit on social media or whatever that was.

He never signed the contract and even if he did there is no excuse for asking a Prowl bowl player to take a pay cut.

nuff said....

[MrEpsYtown]

1 minute ago, HOUSE said:

He never signed the contract and even if he did there is no excuse for asking a Prowl bowl player to take a pay cut.

nuff said....

 

C'mon man...guys like Richie are asked to take pay cuts all of the time. He's old, his play is declining, and they must feel like they can replace his production. It happens all of the time, and it is why you see dudes like Dez Bryant on the open market. This isn't anything new. Pro Bowl also means nothing. 

[JMF2006]

32 minutes ago, Doc said:

RI may want to come back, but I think the Bills have moved on. 

 

And and I see the line as: Dawkins-Teller-Groy-Miller-McDermott and I’m okay with that. 

 

Still listed on the reserve/retired list.

 

If the Bills moved on they wouldn't be holding his rights and a roster spot.

[MrEpsYtown]

3 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Still listed on the reserve/retired list.

 

If the Bills moved on they wouldn't be holding his rights and a roster spot.

They aren't going to release him so he can go sign with some other team. I'm sure he is welcome back at the agreed upon discounted rate if he wants to come back. It is the same as the Boldin situation last year. He's either got to be a Bill or stay retired.  

[TheBeane]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

Bodine will start at Center

 

In my opinion, other than Dawkins at LT I am not that sure anything is 100% on the line.

 

This will be a very fluid process going through July - August.  Competition in camp and preseason will show who is starting where.

[nucci]

2 minutes ago, TheBeane said:

 

In my opinion, other than Dawkins at LT I am not that sure anything is 100% on the line.

 

This will be a very fluid process going through July - August.  Competition in camp and preseason will show who is starting where.

I get that but he was signed to be the starter and most likely is No.1 on depth chart to start camp

[TheBeane]

3 minutes ago, nucci said:

I get that but he was signed to be the starter and most likely is No.1 on depth chart to start camp

 

We'll see... In all reality, I could see him starting or being cut.  Neither would really surprise me.

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, nucci said:

I get that but he was signed to be the starter and most likely is No.1 on depth chart to start camp

 

I don’t agree that he was signed to be the starter. He’s making the same as Groy. 

[nucci]

1 minute ago, TheBeane said:

 

We'll see... In all reality, I could see him starting or being cut.  Neither would really surprise me.

So it could go either way?

[LabattBlue]

Having a new thread started every time a player is cut, is a 1000x better than the endless pre-draft QB threads.

 

...and I have no idea who Zany Beatle is.  

[dollars 2 donuts]

3 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I have a feeling the Bills aren’t going to sign anyone yet for interior line help. The staff is going to see how Bodine, Groy, Miller, Ducasse, and Teller shake out for starters and depth. Tackle is more concerning. At least between Bodine, Groy, Miller, and Ducasse there are some quality NFL starts. Once you get past Dawkins, Newhouse and Mills at tackle, what is left is a big unknown. Heck even Mills and Newhouse are hopes that they play the best they ever have to be decent.

 

 

 

 

Agreed.

 

I think in June or July we see this team add either a WR or OL veteran using the 5-6 million in cap space (outside of the believed 5-6 in reserve the want to keep and their rookie signing dollars).

 

...or a LB.

Edited May 8, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts

[T master]

2 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

i would assume bodine will be under center with a.j. having worked with him for 4 yrs.

that being said, i would think...dawkins / groy,teller / bodine / miller,ducasse / newhouse

 

I think with that line up & the possibility of a FA or a UDFA showing in the mini camp the depth along the line & line play

(as long as the O line coach is as good as they say he is) shouldn't be as big of a problem as every one thinks !! 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said:

i hadn't thought about that lately...since drafting teller. i guess i wouldn't be surprised if richie showed up around july, but i'm ready to move on. this was likely his last year here anyway. we were gonna face this turnover starting next year, but i think it will work out better going through it this year.

I think they would rather trade Richie than bring back a head case. But I guess it depends how the new kids are doing.

Edited May 8, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[BillnutinHouston]

1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

He was a bust in Jacksonville as a big free agent signing and I think it is because he is a poor fit for power running teams. He really excelled as a zone based lineman because finesse and speed is more his game than power.

 

Do we know yet what type of scheme we're running this year?  I don't recall hearing that. 

Edited May 8, 2018 by BillnutinHouston

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

He never signed the contract and even if he did there is no excuse for asking a Prowl bowl player to take a pay cut.

nuff said....

 

No, nuff not said.  What is the source for the "He never signed the contract" claim?  I have not seen that reported.

I have seen it reported that he asked to be released from his contract, which would be superfluous if he never signed it - it wouldn't be a valid contract.

 

The "pro bowl" is more or less a fan popularity contest at this point so "meh".   Football is a business.  The salary cap is brutal.  Many great players who are on the downhill slope of their career are asked to take a pay cut.  If that wasn't OK with Richie, he should have said "No."

 

Regardless, if Richie signed and then had "signer's remorse", there are appropriate, professional ways to handle that, including firing his agent and finding a new agent privately, presenting his arguments in private to the team, and finally using leverage (holding out, threatening retirement or actually retiring, but not stating that he's retiring for medical reasons).  Firing his agent on Twitter and staging a public hissyfit on twitter, then claiming he needs to retire for medical reasons, are not examples of those appropriate professional ways.

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

Do we know yet what type of scheme we're running this year?  I don't recall hearing that. 

 

Most people assume Daboll is bringing more of a power running scheme. Multiple tight ends, full backs, power and gap plays etc. It's what he has always done at different stops in New England, Miami, KC, Cleveland. I guess no one knows definitely, but it seems like that is where things are going. 

[26CornerBlitz]

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Zane Beadles (OL)

 

Three teams that should target him: Seahawks, Bills, Vikings

 

The Bills also could use some offensive line depth after being hit hard by retirement this offseason. Over the past three months, both Richie Incognito and Eric Woodhave announced they're done with football, although Incognito is already trying to unretire, so there's a small chance he could be back. The Bills also lost starting left tackle Cordy Glenn, who was traded to the Bengals in March.

[Green Lightning]

On 5/8/2018 at 7:24 AM, nucci said:

Bodine will start at Center

Hope not,  huge drop off from Wood. Groy starts and Bodine is back up or cut. 

[NoSaint]

On 5/8/2018 at 6:37 AM, Doc said:

RI may want to come back, but I think the Bills have moved on. 

 

And and I see the line as: Dawkins-Teller-Groy-Miller-McDermott and I’m okay with that. 

 

He shows up and we cut him and eat the dead money? 

On that note— Ritchie went from nonstop 24 hour a day twitter bender to radio silence. Truly I wonder if something happened, and he’s now trying to put things back together. I’d be interested if a reporter could get any update from him, or his friends/family about what’s been going on with him this offseason 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

 

He shows up and we cut him and eat the dead money? 

On that note— Ritchie went from nonstop 24 hour a day twitter bender to radio silence. Truly I wonder if something happened, and he’s now trying to put things back together. I’d be interested if a reporter could get any update from him, or his friends/family about what’s been going on with him this offseason 

 

At a guess...he interviewed new agents and they every one said "if you want us to represent you, Shut Up Richie"

 

But yeah, one does wonder if he was on some kind of bender and someone finally caught up to him with a butterfly net.  His last tweet before radio silence descended:

 

Scott Gorman is the director of a Crisis Intervention company, "Crisis Case Management".  His bio says he used to work for the NFLPA.

[Coach Tuesday]

Interesting.  Ritchie has always had mental issues and has teetered on the edge of snapping entirely - is my impression.  Really hope his story doesn’t have a dark ending but I am concerned.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 5/8/2018 at 5:50 AM, billsredneck1 said:

i would assume bodine will be under center with a.j. having worked with him for 4 yrs.

that being said, i would think...dawkins / groy,teller / bodine / miller,ducasse / newhouse

 

I think there will be competition, but certainly having a center your QB is somewhat familiar with can only help.

 

Am I correct that Bodine was strictly center, not center/OG?  'Cuz usually you want your backup guy to be both.

[billsredneck1]

55 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think there will be competition, but certainly having a center your QB is somewhat familiar with can only help.

 

Am I correct that Bodine was strictly center, not center/OG?  'Cuz usually you want your backup guy to be both.

i believe he started at c every game since he was drafted and if i remember correctly, he didn't give up a single sack last year.

 

i really don't know that much about him, but i'm sure a.j. knows very well what his butt feels like. having worked together can't hurt.

[Doc]

11 hours ago, NoSaint said:

He shows up and we cut him and eat the dead money? 

On that note— Ritchie went from nonstop 24 hour a day twitter bender to radio silence. Truly I wonder if something happened, and he’s now trying to put things back together. I’d be interested if a reporter could get any update from him, or his friends/family about what’s been going on with him this offseason 

 

Not sure how they’ll approach it if he shows up.