26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) 4-30: Bills' GM Brandon Beane on WGR (22:36) #Bills general manager Brandon Beane joins Howard and Jeremy right now on WGR! Beane - Josh is big, strong, and athletic. He had to earn everything, he earned his spot on Wyoming's team. He was that team. I get the stats, but there were games where he barely threw the ball. He's more than just a passer, he's a complete player. #Bills Beane - I think he is Buffalo. The fans will realize why we picked him. He will have to earn everything and work hard to play for the #Bills. Beane - we looked at all of these guys, looking at their progressions and where these guys go. Josh has done that in college. We put each of the QBs through mental testing while meeting with them, and Josh did very well. #Bills Beane - we really liked Josh Allen. We liked the other QBs too, but we knew he was a fit here as a person and a player. He had a lot of things that we liked, but we felt if we got Josh, we'll have a good fit here. #Bills Beane - The Pegulas were here for support and to meet Josh. If he earns his way to the No. 1 QB spot, he will be the face of the franchise. That's important from the ownership's standpoint. It was my decision in the end on which QB we took, and I understand what goes with that. Beane - Allen will come in as the No. 3 QB on the roster. McCarron and Peterman will be ahead of them. Allen has some catching up to do. He ends up winning the starting job, but everything is a competition. #Bills Beane - Allen will come in as the No. 3 QB on the roster. McCarron and Peterman will be ahead of them. Allen has some catching up to do. If he ends up winning the starting job, he wins the job. Everything is a competition. #Bills Beane - Allen lost sight of what he should have been deleting with the tweets. He was embarrassed about them, but he didn't make excuses. He understands he will have to come in here and set the record straight with his teammates. #Bills Beane - we talked about the situation before the draft, and we all felt comfortable with the situation. #Bills Beane - this was not a strong WR class to begin with. It started to drop off after the first few guys. We were looking for some more weapons, but we had to trust our board. #Bills Beane - We're not done. We're continuing to look and get some weapons on offense before our first game in September. ##Bills Beane - Tremaine is a great, young man. Very mature for a 19-year-old. We do have a hole at LB. I think he will come in and help very quickly, but he will have to earn it. #Bills Beane on not selecting a WR earlier: “It wasn’t a strong receiver class. We would’ve liked to have added more weapons. But we wanted to stay true to our board.” Said he didn’t want to miss taking another good player just because they wanted a WR. Beane on Allen - "He wasn't the only guy that we'd have been happy to take". That's...revealing. If happy to take someone further down the board, you probably don't trade up. Beane - Dez Bryant is a very good player. He may not be the same player he was five years ago, but he's still a very good player. It's something we'll talk about. #Bills Beane - It is a sense of relief that we were able to make the playoffs, deal with our salary cap, and now we're heading in the right direction. Happy we didn't have to deal any of the picks in the 2019 NFL Draft. #Bills Beane - we really haven't focued on Kelvin Benjamin's contract situatuion. We'll see how he fits in with Daboll's offense and the quarterbacks over the summer, and then we'll go from there. #Bills Beane - two of the teams we spoke to wanted multiple first rounders in a trade up in the #NFLDraft. That was off the table, especially the 2019 1st round pick. #Bills Beane - Tremaine Edmunds was just too good of a value player to not go up and get him where we did. #Bills Edited April 30, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 After listening to Brandon Beane this morning... I'm proud to say I was right! Allen wasn't they guy...he was one of their guy's. Me & Jeremy White was pretty much on the same page. I've posted PLENTY of times that I believe it was Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen then Allen (which I had wrong cause he clearly had Allen over Rosen). But when I said did they get their guy....this forum blew up! & said I was wrong for saying that. When you've been apart of this game as long as I have... you can read things that the normal fan doesn't even know what to look for. Thank you Beane for making my point! & he also confirm what I said, The Giants, Browns, Broncos & Colts were not trading cause they're guys was on the board! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: After listening to Brandon Beane this morning... I'm proud to say I was right! Allen wasn't they guy...he was one of their guy's. Me & Jeremy White was pretty much on the same page. I've posted PLENTY of times that I believe it was Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen then Allen (which I had wrong cause he clearly had Allen over Rosen). But when I said did they get their guy....this forum blew up! & said I was wrong for saying that. When you've been apart of this game as long as I have... you can read things that the normal fan doesn't even know what to look for. Thank you Beane for making my point! & he also confirm what I said, The Giants, Browns, Broncos & Colts were not trading cause they're guys was on the board! You should start a new thread and label it "victory lap" seriously, do it 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Beane is absolutely doing right with creating cap space. That was hamstringing this team back to Buddy Nix. The draft is a crap shoot, but Edmunds, Phillips and Teller were not reaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Beane on Allen - "He wasn't the only guy that we'd have been happy to take". That's...revealing. If happy to take someone further down the board, you probably don't trade up. Thanks for posting this transcript. I read the quoted as Allen was their highest rated QB realistically available when the Bills could get him. The others they were "happy to take" were fall back options. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 He specifically mentioned Robert Foster as a standout UDFA which makes me think he has a good chance of sticking around, especially with the Daboll connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEraBills Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: After listening to Brandon Beane this morning... I'm proud to say I was right! Allen wasn't they guy...he was one of their guy's. Me & Jeremy White was pretty much on the same page. I've posted PLENTY of times that I believe it was Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen then Allen (which I had wrong cause he clearly had Allen over Rosen). But when I said did they get their guy....this forum blew up! & said I was wrong for saying that. When you've been apart of this game as long as I have... you can read things that the normal fan doesn't even know what to look for. Thank you Beane for making my point! & he also confirm what I said, The Giants, Browns, Broncos & Colts were not trading cause they're guys was on the board! It wasn't Rosen or they would have taken him. I don't think Mayfield was in their plan either. To me, Darnold was the only other top guy they were going to take. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 Bills GM Beane: Josh Allen Will Begin as No. 3 QB The Buffalo Bills traded up to obtain the services of Josh Allen. The team won't hand the rookie the starting gig right off the bat, however. Bills general manager Brandon Beane said Monday on WGR-AM 550 in Buffalo that Allen will begin as the team's No. 3 quarterback behind AJ McCarron and Nathan Peterman, and the trio will compete for starting honors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Bills GM Beane: Josh Allen Will Begin as No. 3 QB The Buffalo Bills traded up to obtain the services of Josh Allen. The team won't hand the rookie the starting gig right off the bat, however. Bills general manager Brandon Beane said Monday on WGR-AM 550 in Buffalo that Allen will begin as the team's No. 3 quarterback behind AJ McCarron and Nathan Peterman, and the trio will compete for starting honors. If he can not get past Peterman quickly... the fan base is entitled to panic a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbbillsfan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Ya, reading the tea leaves I think the bills likely had a board of 1. Darnold 2. Allen/mayfield 3. Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Those Dez comments certainly seem different than the other quote from him saying something to the effect of "We watched him on tape, we don't need to go any further". I'm glad to hear him address the lack of attention on the skill positions, other than at the tail end of the draft. Bottom line, not every position can be addressed, he did very well to get one of the top 4 QBs, a player viewed as a top ~10 position player by the majority of analysts, a Kyle Williams clone, a Richie clone and some well regarded DBs without touching future draft capital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, NewEraBills said: It wasn't Rosen or they would have taken him. I don't think Mayfield was in their plan either. To me, Darnold was the only other top guy they were going to take. And they will have years to regret it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 43 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If he can not get past Peterman quickly... the fan base is entitled to panic a bit He will pass Peterman on the depth chart between the time he cocks his arm to throw his first pass in rookie mini camp and it gets within a yard of its target. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Bills GM Beane: Josh Allen Will Begin as No. 3 QB The Buffalo Bills traded up to obtain the services of Josh Allen. The team won't hand the rookie the starting gig right off the bat, however. Bills general manager Brandon Beane said Monday on WGR-AM 550 in Buffalo that Allen will begin as the team's No. 3 quarterback behind AJ McCarron and Nathan Peterman, and the trio will compete for starting honors. At least he's ahead of the kid from Shippensburg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Scorp83 said: After listening to Brandon Beane this morning... I'm proud to say I was right! Allen wasn't they guy...he was one of their guy's. Me & Jeremy White was pretty much on the same page. I've posted PLENTY of times that I believe it was Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen then Allen (which I had wrong cause he clearly had Allen over Rosen). But when I said did they get their guy....this forum blew up! & said I was wrong for saying that. When you've been apart of this game as long as I have... you can read things that the normal fan doesn't even know what to look for. Thank you Beane for making my point! & he also confirm what I said, The Giants, Browns, Broncos & Colts were not trading cause they're guys was on the board! Thanks for letting all us normal fans know that darnold was probably their first choice they probably would have started anyone they drafted at number 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, NewEraBills said: It wasn't Rosen or they would have taken him. I don't think Mayfield was in their plan either. To me, Darnold was the only other top guy they were going to take. That seems right to me. Edited April 30, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: He specifically mentioned Robert Foster as a standout UDFA which makes me think he has a good chance of sticking around, especially with the Daboll connection. How does he have a better chance at sticking then the two WRs the Bills actually picked ahead of him, no way al three are going to stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Scorp83 said: After listening to Brandon Beane this morning... I'm proud to say I was right! Allen wasn't they guy...he was one of their guy's. Me & Jeremy White was pretty much on the same page. I've posted PLENTY of times that I believe it was Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen then Allen (which I had wrong cause he clearly had Allen over Rosen). But when I said did they get their guy....this forum blew up! & said I was wrong for saying that. When you've been apart of this game as long as I have... you can read things that the normal fan doesn't even know what to look for. Thank you Beane for making my point! & he also confirm what I said, The Giants, Browns, Broncos & Colts were not trading cause they're guys was on the board! So .... how long you been speaking English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, yungmack said: At least he's ahead of the kid from Shippensburg. Who said? Could be AJ, kid from Shippensburg, Josh, then Nate. The kid from Shippensburg could have been the guy all along and Josh was just the smokescreen.... Edited April 30, 2018 by apuszczalowski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 hours ago, NewEraBills said: It wasn't Rosen or they would have taken him. I don't think Mayfield was in their plan either. To me, Darnold was the only other top guy they were going to take. FWIW Benjamin Albright said the Bills and Cardinals had Allen as their #1 QB. He's been pretty accurate throughout the whole draft process and was one of the first reporters to link us to Allen so I believe him. No way to know for sure of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: He will pass Peterman on the depth chart between the time he cocks his arm to throw his first pass in rookie mini camp and it gets within a yard of its target. Peterman is better than you think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, Dr. K said: Peterman is better than you think he is. No, he's not. Peterman has numerous qualities about him that are NFL quality, which is why people like him. He also has at least two qualities about him that kill all other NFL qualities, he doesn't have the arm to get the ball where it needs to go quick enough more than 15 yards down the field (and sometimes less than 15 yards) and he cannot handle pressure well. He's awful at it. You cannot play in the NFL with those two traits. He didn't show those traits in preseason last year, even when people thought he was good. Those traits cannot be exposed in practice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: FWIW Benjamin Albright said the Bills and Cardinals had Allen as their #1 QB. He's been pretty accurate throughout the whole draft process and was one of the first reporters to link us to Allen so I believe him. No way to know for sure of course. Makes sense. It does not appear that Beane made much of an effort to get below pick 5. So the “we MUST trade our whole draft and next year’s 1 to get the Giants’ pick” could not have been more wrong. Edited April 30, 2018 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Scorp83 said: After listening to Brandon Beane this morning... I'm proud to say I was right! Allen wasn't they guy...he was one of their guy's. Me & Jeremy White was pretty much on the same page. I've posted PLENTY of times that I believe it was Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen then Allen (which I had wrong cause he clearly had Allen over Rosen). But when I said did they get their guy....this forum blew up! & said I was wrong for saying that. When you've been apart of this game as long as I have... you can read things that the normal fan doesn't even know what to look for. Thank you Beane for making my point! & he also confirm what I said, The Giants, Browns, Broncos & Colts were not trading cause they're guys was on the board! John Murphy has been saying for months that the Bills had two guys in mind: Darnold and Allen. Regardless, as a GM that is just how the draft works. You rank your guys. You go through contingencies. You try to plan for everything. Was Allen #1 on their board? He better not be if they took him at 7. But they probably knew they couldn't realistically get Darnold, or other non-QB's like Barkley, Chubb, etc. And if someone gotten Allen ahead of them, I bet they trade up and take Rosen (exactly like what Arizona did). 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: No, he's not. Peterman has numerous qualities about him that are NFL quality, which is why people like him. He also has at least two qualities about him that kill all other NFL qualities, he doesn't have the arm to get the ball where it needs to go quick enough more than 15 yards down the field (and sometimes less than 15 yards) and he cannot handle pressure well. He's awful at it. You cannot play in the NFL with those two traits. He didn't show those traits in preseason last year, even when people thought he was good. Those traits cannot be exposed in practice. Every QB can learn how to deal with pressure. That is an experience thing. Arm strength isn't, though. Fitz carved out a nice little career for himself without NFL arm strength, though, albiet as mostly a backup. But you can win some gear without tremendous arm strength if you call the right plays and mask those difficiencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, MJS said: John Murphy has been saying for months that the Bills had two guys in mind: Darnold and Allen. Regardless, as a GM that is just how the draft works. You rank your guys. You go through contingencies. You try to plan for everything. Was Allen #1 on their board? He better not be if they took him at 7. But they probably knew they couldn't realistically get Darnold, or other non-QB's like Barkley, Chubb, etc. And if someone gotten Allen ahead of them, I bet they trade up and take Rosen (exactly like what Arizona did). You make some good points, but I'll defer to Scorp83's opinion for two reasons: 1) His spelling and grammar are on fleek, and 2) He's been around the game longer than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: No, he's not. Peterman has numerous qualities about him that are NFL quality, which is why people like him. He also has at least two qualities about him that kill all other NFL qualities, he doesn't have the arm to get the ball where it needs to go quick enough more than 15 yards down the field (and sometimes less than 15 yards) and he cannot handle pressure well. He's awful at it. You cannot play in the NFL with those two traits. He didn't show those traits in preseason last year, even when people thought he was good. Those traits cannot be exposed in practice. I respect your opinion but we may never find out. If things go as they should he will never see the field this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr. K said: I respect your opinion but we may never find out. If things go as they should he will never see the field this season. I think we've already found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: I think we've already found out. Of course you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, MJS said: John Murphy has been saying for months that the Bills had two guys in mind: Darnold and Allen. Regardless, as a GM that is just how the draft works. You rank your guys. You go through contingencies. You try to plan for everything. Was Allen #1 on their board? He better not be if they took him at 7. But they probably knew they couldn't realistically get Darnold, or other non-QB's like Barkley, Chubb, etc. And if someone gotten Allen ahead of them, I bet they trade up and take Rosen (exactly like what Arizona did). Every QB can learn how to deal with pressure. That is an experience thing. Arm strength isn't, though. Fitz carved out a nice little career for himself without NFL arm strength, though, albiet as mostly a backup. But you can win some gear without tremendous arm strength if you call the right plays and mask those difficiencies. Have there been players that dealt with pressure better as they got more experienced? Of course. Pretty much every one of them. But there are also a lot of players that cannot deal with it and never will. It looks very much like Peterman is one of those guys. Trent Edwards was one of those guys. Peterman is Trent Edwards without the arm strength and Trent had decent at best arm strength. Edwards never handled pressure well. Some Bills fans will claim he could before he got his bell wrung in AZ but that is not true. He couldn't even when he was playing fairly well. Chan Gailey, who knows a thing or two about offense, showed this with an extraordinary decision. His first year as HC he had Edwards as the starter. Edwards looked very good in practice and in preseason, which again cannot simulate game speed or pass rush. And thought to himself I may have something here. He started 2-3 games and it became immediately apparent that Trent could not handle the pass rush. And Chan didn't bench him, he CUT him! That rarely happens. But Chan knew he would never be good because he never could be good, and Edwards slowly faded away and out of the league. Peterman is the same. Only not as good as Edwards. Bills fans got enamored with Edwards because he could read defenses pre-snap, make a quick decision on where he was going to go, and throw a very nice looking 8 yard out pattern. But that was the only thing he was very good at. Which is what fans got enamored with Peterman over, and what he does very well, and the only thing he does very well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, Dr. K said: I respect your opinion but we may never find out. If things go as they should he will never see the field this season. Fair enough. I respect yours as well. I think Peterman is cut and put on the practice squad, unless something named Zapoticky beats him out for the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Have there been players that dealt with pressure better as they got more experienced? Of course. Pretty much every one of them. But there are also a lot of players that cannot deal with it and never will. It looks very much like Peterman is one of those guys. Trent Edwards was one of those guys. Peterman is Trent Edwards without the arm strength and Trent had decent at best arm strength. Edwards never handled pressure well. Some Bills fans will claim he could before he got his bell wrung in AZ but that is not true. He couldn't even when he was playing fairly well. Chan Gailey, who knows a thing or two about offense, showed this with an extraordinary decision. His first year as HC he had Edwards as the starter. Edwards looked very good in practice and in preseason, which again cannot simulate game speed or pass rush. And thought to himself I may have something here. He started 2-3 games and it became immediately apparent that Trent could not handle the pass rush. And Chan didn't bench him, he CUT him! That rarely happens. But Chan knew he would never be good because he never could be good, and Edwards slowly faded away and out of the league. Peterman is the same. Only not as good as Edwards. Bills fans got enamored with Edwards because he could read defenses pre-snap, make a quick decision on where he was going to go, and throw a very nice looking 8 yard out pattern. But that was the only thing he was very good at. Which is what fans got enamored with Peterman over, and what he does very well, and the only thing he does very well. IIRC Chan cut Edwards when he ran out of bounds on 4th down (last play of the game) instead of taking a shot downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Have there been players that dealt with pressure better as they got more experienced? Of course. Pretty much every one of them. But there are also a lot of players that cannot deal with it and never will. It looks very much like Peterman is one of those guys. Trent Edwards was one of those guys. Peterman is Trent Edwards without the arm strength and Trent had decent at best arm strength. Edwards never handled pressure well. Some Bills fans will claim he could before he got his bell wrung in AZ but that is not true. He couldn't even when he was playing fairly well. Chan Gailey, who knows a thing or two about offense, showed this with an extraordinary decision. His first year as HC he had Edwards as the starter. Edwards looked very good in practice and in preseason, which again cannot simulate game speed or pass rush. And thought to himself I may have something here. He started 2-3 games and it became immediately apparent that Trent could not handle the pass rush. And Chan didn't bench him, he CUT him! That rarely happens. But Chan knew he would never be good because he never could be good, and Edwards slowly faded away and out of the league. Peterman is the same. Only not as good as Edwards. Bills fans got enamored with Edwards because he could read defenses pre-snap, make a quick decision on where he was going to go, and throw a very nice looking 8 yard out pattern. But that was the only thing he was very good at. Which is what fans got enamored with Peterman over, and what he does very well, and the only thing he does very well. Sorry, but I'm not able to make those conclusions based on less than two full games of play. Clearly you are, but I like to have a much larger sample size than just a few quarters of play, some of them during a blizzard. But if he flames out of the league, who cares? He was a lower round pick for a reason and those guys rarely turn out. They are projects and sometimes the projects fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: IIRC Chan cut Edwards when he ran out of bounds on 4th down (last play of the game) instead of taking a shot downfield. That could have been the last straw. But Edwards could not handle the rush at all in those games and that is why he was cut. Chan didn't see that in preseason and practice. You wouldn't cut a guy for one play. 9 minutes ago, MJS said: Sorry, but I'm not able to make those conclusions based on less than two full games of play. Clearly you are, but I like to have a much larger sample size than just a few quarters of play, some of them during a blizzard. But if he flames out of the league, who cares? He was a lower round pick for a reason and those guys rarely turn out. They are projects and sometimes the projects fail. Exactly. he was a 5th round pick because he had a rag arm and shouldn't be expected to be good. That wasn't my observations from just the two games, but watching him in college a little, watching tape after we took him, and watching him throughout preseason. He didn't even handle a preseason rush well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. K said: Peterman is better than you think he is. He has to be better (though not much better) than I think for I think he is dog crap and is better utilized on PS throwing passes to DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Scorp83 said: After listening to Brandon Beane this morning... I'm proud to say I was right! Allen wasn't they guy...he was one of their guy's. Me & Jeremy White was pretty much on the same page. I've posted PLENTY of times that I believe it was Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen then Allen (which I had wrong cause he clearly had Allen over Rosen). But when I said did they get their guy....this forum blew up! & said I was wrong for saying that. When you've been apart of this game as long as I have... you can read things that the normal fan doesn't even know what to look for. Thank you Beane for making my point! & he also confirm what I said, The Giants, Browns, Broncos & Colts were not trading cause they're guys was on the board! you are so good-- maybe you should become a GM..... ROsen wasnt there guy!!! and they werent going to mortgage the farm if it was Darnold and/or Mayfield.. But i am glad yo uare proud... maybe we can get you a goldstar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Ifartalot said: Beane is absolutely doing right with creating cap space. That was hamstringing this team back to Buddy Nix. The draft is a crap shoot, but Edmunds, Phillips and Teller were not reaches. Dont let St. Doug Whaley off the hook either. He added to the mess and never made a serious attempt to clean it up 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: Fair enough. I respect yours as well. I think Peterman is cut and put on the practice squad, unless something named Zapoticky beats him out for the PS. You are forgetting that Peterman is a McDermott guy. I don’t think there’s much of a Chance that he gets cut. Though, if they name Allen the starter for Week 1 there’s a chance it might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Dont let St. Doug Whaley off the hook either. He added to the mess and never made a serious attempt to clean it up You are forgetting that Peterman is a McDermott guy. I don’t think there’s much of a Chance that he gets cut. Though, if they name Allen the starter for Week 1 there’s a chance it might happen. Not forgetting he is a McD guy. That is the only reason he is on an NFL roster. He is going to be cut because McD and Beane are firm believers in versatility and special teams. And like last year, they kept only two quarterbacks during the season, so they could keep more of the versatile guys and special teamers. And there is no reason to keep a developmental young guy whatsoever when your prized rookie is a young developmental guy and your starter is a young developmental guy. None. Barring injury. So he will be cut, no one will pick him up for their roster, and he will be put on the PS in case of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scorp83 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 11 hours ago, NewEraBills said: It wasn't Rosen or they would have taken him. I don't think Mayfield was in their plan either. To me, Darnold was the only other top guy they were going to take. I didn't say they had Rosen over him, I said obviously they had Allen over Rosen. Then if you listen, Beane said 2 not 1 but 2 guy's they were keying on... that's Mayfield & Darnold 9 hours ago, Gugny said: So .... how long you been speaking English? 1 day 10 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: That seems right to me. Beane said there were 2 guy's not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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