RPbillsfan Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I've read some reports that the reason for the Brandon Cooks deal is to gain draft capital to move up in the draft. Just read an article that the Patriots are interested in acquiring the 2nd pick in the draft, giving up both firsts and both seconds. If they do this and take Josh Rosen I can't wait to see how Rosen and Belichick get along. Just don't see Rosen as "A Patriots Way" kind of guy. I see an implosion of epic proportion coming if this occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, RPbillsfan said: I've read some reports that the reason for the Brandon Cooks deal is to gain draft capital to move up in the draft. Just read an article that the Patriots are interested in acquiring the 2nd pick in the draft, giving up both firsts and both seconds. If they do this and take Josh Rosen I can't wait to see how Rosen and Belichick get along. Just don't see Rosen as "A Patriots Way" kind of guy. I see an implosion of epic proportion coming if this occurs. No way! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The ONLY "implosion of epic proportion" I see are threads like this as an over reaction to ANYTHING the Pats* do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Could this comment have fit in any existing thread about the same stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Imagine if they slide in to take the next tom Brady* and we are stuck with AJ. It would be So Billsy and typical of Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Both of NE's 1st's and 2nd's (2,106 pts) aren't enough for the 2nd pick (2,600 pts). /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Both of NE's 1st's and 2nd's (2,106 pts) aren't enough for the 2nd pick (2,600 pts). /thread I was going to say that the 23rd and 31st overall picks aren't going to move NE anywhere near high enough to nab one of the top QBs. They would have to really mortgage they future to get that high, and I'm not sure that even then the Giants would be happy moving all the way down to the bottom third of the first round. I bet the Giants would want 3,000 points or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No way! I really am starting to become more like ShadyBillsfan #it'sgettingold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, Reed83HOF said: I really am starting to become more like ShadyBillsfan #it'sgettingold God help you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: The ONLY "implosion of epic proportion" I see are threads like this as an over reaction to ANYTHING the Pats* do. Is there a team more inside Bills fans heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I was going to say that the 23rd and 31st overall picks aren't going to move NE anywhere near high enough to nab one of the top QBs. They would have to really mortgage they future to get that high, and I'm not sure that even then the Giants would be happy moving all the way down to the bottom third of the first round. I bet the Giants would want 3,000 points or more. Speculation is they don't want to move much lower than 5 and that we'll have to trade up again if we want to get to 2. So, yeah, under no scenario are they dropping to 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is there a team more inside Bills fans heads? Is there a team that is a bigger thorn in our side? A lot of it is the Bills own doing, but still, they won't just go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb386 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I don't feel as though giving up that much draft capital and moving up that far fits Belichick's way of doing things. He hit gold with Brady in the 6th round and drafted Garoppolo in the 2nd. I think he would find Brady's successor in a similar fashion. Maybe he would be interested in a guy like Rudolph or Lauletta , but I don't see Belichick trading way up. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Is there a team that is a bigger thorn in our side? A lot of it is the Bills own doing, but still, they won't just go away. I sorta agree with your point.... BUT getting the GOAT at QB with pick #199, a COMPENSATORY pick in the sixth round no less, who ALSO continually takes less money on extremely team friendly deals is really not "the Bills own doing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I suspect that the opinion of many Bills fans on Rosen has suddenly increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 He needs to fix his defense as they got lit up by Nick Foles of all people. Solder walking away also puts a hole at OT. Cooks was a locker room problem in New Orleans and that may have carried into New England. I don't see them going for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: I sorta agree with your point.... BUT getting the GOAT at QB with pick #199, a COMPENSATORY pick in the sixth round no less, who ALSO continually takes less money on extremely team friendly deals is really not "the Bills own doing". Yeah, the Pats* struck lightening in a bottle with Brady; I bet they won't be able to repeat that. Brady and Kraft have some side deal, which is beside the point. I was thinking along the lines of poor FO and HC selections. Horrible drafting and FA pickups for years. That is how the Bills screwed themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Both of NE's 1st's and 2nd's (2,106 pts) aren't enough for the 2nd pick (2,600 pts). /thread Agreed. Not even close. Would need to add a 2019 Number 1 and maybe Gronk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Yeah, the Pats* struck lightening in a bottle with Brady; I bet they won't be able to repeat that. Brady and Kraft have some side deal, which is beside the point. I was thinking along the lines of poor FO and HC selections. Horrible drafting and FA pickups for years. That is how the Bills screwed themselves. Yeah.... That is why I said sorta :). Truly though imo our front office (and the rest of the AFC East's) would have looked much smarter without that 199th pick leading the Pats*. Edited April 4, 2018 by aceman_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I could see them adding Lamar jackson. Josh Mcdaniels traded up to draft Tim Teebow back when he was the coach for Denver and he is the heir to the throne. Could add an X factor to their offense this year, while prepping him for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) Smoke. Extra draft capital is for (33) Mike White and (22) Leighton Vander Esch. Edited April 4, 2018 by Jamie Muellers Ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The Patriots were also interested in AJ McCarron. https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/3/14/17119352/report-patriots-offered-aj-mccarron-a-contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Supposedly, there are only around 20 or so players with first round grades on them this draft. (lots of 2nd/3rd rounders apparently). It may be that the Cheats are simply putting themselves in position to be able to get one of those guys, if he falls far enough. Fwiw, I don't think Belicheck would have any problems at all with Rosen wanting to understand the 'why' of things. If anything, I think he would love it, as it means he gets to show how to break down tape more thoroughly. Assuming the 'why' is football related, Rosen could easily come to regret the level of detail Belicheck can supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 If TB12 does have 4-5 more years in him trading up to 2 for a QB would be stupid. What I hope they might do is stay put or trade down. It would be a dangerous game of Russian Roulette to try and force the price of 2,4,5,6 or 7 up. Then again if they can keep a franchise QB from the Bills.......... Just when things got interesting with the Jests and 3 the Patsies moving in takes it up another level 22 Days until it all plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: If TB12 does have 4-5 more years in him trading up to 2 for a QB would be stupid. What I hope they might do is stay put or trade down. It would be a dangerous game of Russian Roulette to try and force the price of 2,4,5,6 or 7 up. Then again if they can keep a franchise QB from the Bills.......... Just when things got interesting with the Jests and 3 the Patsies moving in takes it up another level 22 Days until it all plays out. Are you kidding??? You really let that thought slip out of your brain and onto paper no less?? Wow, you have some nerve and for once I can truly say I'm prepared to stand my ground, and defend my viewpoint, because yours is just dumb, and matter of fact sir, just dead wrong... There CANNOT BE 22 MORE DAYS UNTIL THIS DRAFT!!! YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS??? ?? I just knew we were down into the teens by now.....welp, I'm not gonna make it. Praying there's Wi-Fi in Heaven... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 With those late first rounders there is no way they are able to move up to take one of the top QB’s and the authors of article also postulated they might be making a move to get OBJ. We won’t know til draft night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 9 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I've read some reports that the reason for the Brandon Cooks deal is to gain draft capital to move up in the draft. Just read an article that the Patriots are interested in acquiring the 2nd pick in the draft, giving up both firsts and both seconds. If they do this and take Josh Rosen I can't wait to see how Rosen and Belichick get along. Just don't see Rosen as "A Patriots Way" kind of guy. I see an implosion of epic proportion coming if this occurs. 9 hours ago, Augie said: Could this comment have fit in any existing thread about the same stuff? he / she is not a newbie. I;m guessing that some people just don't like using the search function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Augie said: Could this comment have fit in any existing thread about the same stuff? And you could put this comment in any place in any thread right now. Just go with the flow!And you could put this comment in any place in any thread right now. Just go with the flow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Or Bill is retiring after this year and it's a Josh kind of guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 11 hours ago, RPbillsfan said: I've read some reports that the reason for the Brandon Cooks deal is to gain draft capital to move up in the draft. Just read an article that the Patriots are interested in acquiring the 2nd pick in the draft, giving up both firsts and both seconds. If they do this and take Josh Rosen I can't wait to see how Rosen and Belichick get along. Just don't see Rosen as "A Patriots Way" kind of guy. I see an implosion of epic proportion coming if this occurs. I actually hope they do this! Rosen is is no sure thing to say the least. I think every “top“ quarterback in this draft is overvalued. By doing this thr Pats* would loseMost of the best draft picks. They have some serious gaps in multiple positions. Please, let this happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Both of NE's 1st's and 2nd's (2,106 pts) aren't enough for the 2nd pick (2,600 pts). /thread This in a nutshell. It's not even CLOSE to #2 pick value. Stupid thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badanswer Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) BB wants Bradley Chubb...just my opinion Edited April 4, 2018 by Badanswer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Luxy312 said: This in a nutshell. It's not even CLOSE to #2 pick value. Stupid thread. Gronk + both 1sts and both 2nds. Giants or Browns might be interested in obtaining the best TE ever and Pats would be smart to dump him now knowing this might be his last year anyhow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Gronk + both 1sts and both 2nds. Giants or Browns might be interested in obtaining the best TE ever and Pats would be smart to dump him now knowing this might be his last year anyhow I'll see your 2 - #1's and your 2 #2's and I'll raise you... Shady and Hughes.... OR... Would you prefer 2019 #1 instead of Shady and Hughes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Smoke screen. Outside of trading brady to the broncos for number 5 the pats have no hope of moving up to #2 for Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Is there a team that is a bigger thorn in our side? A lot of it is the Bills own doing, but still, they won't just go away. Well, one team cheats and gets away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 12 hours ago, brianb386 said: I don't feel as though giving up that much draft capital and moving up that far fits Belichick's way of doing things. He hit gold with Brady in the 6th round and drafted Garoppolo in the 2nd. I think he would find Brady's successor in a similar fashion. Maybe he would be interested in a guy like Rudolph or Lauletta , but I don't see Belichick trading way up. Just my 2 cents. Unless he's trying to destroy the Patriot's future teams before he leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Giants won't trade out for what Pats have to offer. They're not trading back 21 spots in this draft. Beane is so far ahead of them its silly. Don't forget the difference between a legit NFL GM and dopey Belichick/Kraft. Pats last trade was dumping Chandler Jones, the best DE in football last year. Then they sat there and watched their crappy pass rush get zero pressure on Foles and lost the superbowl because of it. Oh wait, that was their second to last trade. The other was Jimmy G for a second round pick hahahahahahaha. GENIUSSSSSSSSSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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