Dr. Who Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: Fair enough. I have a different opinion on him and Rosen. But I am intrigued by Rudolph. I's prefer to land one of the top 4 QBs but I'd give very strong consideration to him and Jackson if that's not possible. IMO I think Rosen is clearly a better QB prospect than Rudolph. But what I question is - is Rosen that much better than Rudolph + all the picks we could surround him with if we didn't trade up? I still don't understand why you'd say that you would question if you'd support Rosen as the Bills QB if it's not about politics? If its truly just about your concerns over his injuries and his on field performance I don't see why you'd have to question whether or not you'd support him/The Bills if they drafted him. But that's your business, not mine so... all I know is that hat I will support whatever QB the Bills draft and give him a fair chance, even if it's not the one I want. I really don't want Rudolph, but if we take him, I will root for his success. How could any true fan do otherwise? Also, I think clearly antipathy for Rosen is driven by politics. One could be wary because of injuries or quirky personality, but anything stronger is bringing in elements outside football concerns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Oy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 There is almost always a shock in the top few picks... It almost never goes according to script. Rudolph or Jackson could very well jump up and leapfrog Rosen or Mayfield. I think Allen and Darnold are locks at the top of the draft though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I don’t see this happening, not at all... but I never thought Aaron Rodgers would go far after Alex Smith either. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 One thing is for sure though... If you don't need a QB drafting #5 is like having the #1 overall pick. Incredible players will be sitting right there that normally would not, since the top 4 picks could all be QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, stony said: Why is Rosen skinny at 6' 4" 226lb, and Darnold is fine at 6' 3 3/8 and 221? look at how they are built and how many injuries each has had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Here's my outlandish prediction: the Bills will trade all of their picks to move down an acquire every pick in the 7th round. Who know Rosen may still be on the board. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: look at how they are built and how many injuries each has had. I'm not sure how much size for a QB really plays in whether or not they get injured or not. Big Ben is built like an ox and he's been injured a lot. Brady is a twig and he's only sustained one injury that held him out for a period of time and that was a knee. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm not sure how much size for a QB really plays in whether or not they get injured or not. Big Ben is built like an ox and he's been injured a lot. Brady is a twig and he's only sustained one injury that held him out for a period of time and that was a knee. Matt Ryan is also thinner for a QB and doesn't miss games... Eli is thin and has never missed a start Big Ben like you said , hurt a lot, Cam Newton, always banged up... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Matt Ryan is also thinner for a QB and doesn't miss games... Eli is thin and has never missed a start Big Ben like you said , hurt a lot, Cam Newton, always banged up... Matt Ryan looks like my dentist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Matt Ryan looks like my dentist. You do live in Georgia , right? how awesome would it be if Matty Ice was moonlighting at your dentist office lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: Make sure you come back to this thread after the draft is over. I will even if I’m wrong. This is my opinion so will see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Matt Ryan looks like my dentist. Blokes wins. His dentist looks like a classy Mia Khalifa, well, that's what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsMafia13 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: Make sure you come back to this thread after the draft is over. I will even if I’m wrong. This is my opinion so will see. This guy calls his shot and sticks to his guns even if its the least popular opinion on here. With all these arm chair GMs you've got some stones man. I respect that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You do live in Georgia , right? how awesome would it be if Matty Ice was moonlighting at your dentist office lmao I live in the burbs of Atlanta. Maybe I should just start loading up on sugar to get a cavity so I can visit Ryan to convince him to demand a trade for the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) I like Rudolph a LOT, however as a prospect I'm still realistic that he's at best 3rd on the list, and likely about 5th. Rosen is for sure either the 1st or 2nd prospect based on all the factors that scouts and GMs typically look for. There's also a lot of irresponsible comparisons going on in this thread to prior years QBs. ie.. Someone said Rudolph was this year's Trent Edwards, when as prospects they couldn't be further apart. Edited March 26, 2018 by 34-78-83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Is it Dingus Day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, fridge said: So many questions... 1. Because he’s from California and played tennis, he’s automatically spoiled? 2. Cleveland isn’t taking him 1 overall? Do you know something we don’t? 3. AJ MCCarron is better and it’s not even close? Can you even try to prove that? Hate to lump all SoCal qbs into 1 group because I know they have 0 effect on one another. But the numbers of USC/UCLA qbs going early and not panning out is alarmingly high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I live in the burbs of Atlanta. Maybe I should just start loading up on sugar to get a cavity so I can visit Ryan to convince him to demand a trade for the Bills? Sounds like a good plan... I'd be sick of playing with that Julio Jones fellow by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedyardCTbillsfan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Rudolph ahead of Rosen would be awesome long as we aren't the team taking Rudolph 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) I’m in Lowe’s parking lot listening to NFL network and there Interviewing Kolton Miller UCLA OT. They asked him his opinion about Rosen. He struggled to say anything good about Rosen. He really struggled coming up with anything. It took him like 2 minutes before he said at the end of the Interview that Rosen did a lot better his senior year then he did in his 1st two years. Man this guy is just a freaking cancer, Bean will not draft this guy I can just feel it. Rosen is not a Buffalo Bills or Bean type player. He started off by saying Rosen came in with a Attitude his freshman year and it took a awhile to really get to know him and to get know what he was about, this guy has Ryan Leaf witten all over him. Again his OT at UCLA struggled to say anything good about him. The interview part when Rosen’s name came up became a studdering mess. You could tell he was searching for something good to say. Now you tell me is this a guy the Bills should trade 3 number 1 picks for and a 2nd rounder and 3 rounder. This guy will be out of the league before his rookie contract is up. Edited March 26, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: I’m in Lowe’s parking lot listening to NFL network and there Interviewing kolton Miller UCLA OT. They asked him his opinion about Rosen. He struggled to say anything good about Rosen. He struggled coming up with anything. It took him like 2 minutes before he said at the end of the Interview that Rosen did a lot better his senior year then he did in his 1st two years. Man this guy is just a freaking cancer, Bean will not draft this guy I can just feel it. Rosen is not a Buffalo Bills or Bean type player. He started off by saying Rosen came in with a Attitude his freshman year and it took a awhile to really get to know him and to get know what he was about, this guy has Ryan Leaf witten all over him. Again his OT at UCLA struggled to say anything good about him. The interview part when Rosen name came up became a studdering mess. You could tell he was searching for something good to say. Now you tell me is this a guy the Bills should trade 3 number 1 picks for and a 2nd rounder and 3 rounder. This guy will be out of the league before his rookie contract is up. I don't believe you. Anyways, another tackle of Rosens, who actually plays for the Bills, speaks highly of Rosen. He even said Beane has talked to him about Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, BillsFan2313 said: I don't believe you. Anyways, another tackle of Rosens, who actually plays for the Bills, speaks highly of Rosen. He even said Beane has talked to him about Rosen. I just listen to it live on NFL network i’m still in the parking lot. Why would I lie about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: I’m in Lowe’s parking lot listening to NFL network and there Interviewing kolton Miller UCLA OT. They asked him his opinion about Rosen. He struggled to say anything good about Rosen. He struggled coming up with anything. It took him like 2 minutes before he said at the end of the Interview that Rosen did a lot better better his senior year then he did in his 1st two years. Man this guy is just a freaking cancer, Bean will not draft this guy I can just feel it. Rosen is not a Buffalo Bills or Besn type player. He started off by saying Rosen came in with a Attitude his freshman year and it took a awhile to really get to know him and get know what he was about this guy has Ryan Leaf wittier all over him. Again his OT at UCLA struggled to say anything good about him. The interview part when Rosen came up became a studdering mess. You could tell he was searching for something good to say. Now you tell me is this a guy the Bills should trade 3 number 1 picks for and a 2nd rounder and 3 rounder. This guy will be out of the league before his rookie contract is up. I heard this as well and while you are correct that his statements of Rosen were not glowing, he studdered and stammered through the entire interview not just during that portion. More importantly, if any human being uses that interview as a tool to grade that QB, that persons qualifications and therefore his conclusions should be questioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 If I was a betting man I'd totally take this bet. Easy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Thurmanator 12074 said: I just listen to it live on NFL network i’m still in the parking lot. Why would I lie about it. Maybe because you seem biased and pig-headed on the subject? That may be why people don’t believe you. Just tell us why you really hate the kid will you? Or are you just trying to drag out this thread for as long as possible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: I never said I was. But will see I will come back to this thread and bump it during the 1st round. It’s just the way I feel. Its one thing to say Rudolph goes before Rosen but how is he Johnny Manziel??? He's not a drug/alcohol addict , doubt they have similar interests, the only thing in common is rich kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: I heard this as well and while you are correct that his statements of Rosen were not glowing, he studdered and stammered through the entire interview not just during that portion. More importantly, if any human being uses that interview as a tool to grade that QB, that persons qualifications and therefore his conclusions should be questioned. glad someone else heard that. Man why would I lie. Anyways it’s just another red flag on Rosen in my opinion. He has to be the leader and he is not a leader. This QB is not for me that all I can say that for sure. 6 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: I just listen to it live on NFL network i’m still in the parking lot. Why would I lie about it. Billsfan1234 Edited March 26, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: I’m in Lowe’s parking lot listening to NFL network and there Interviewing Kolton Miller UCLA OT. They asked him his opinion about Rosen. He struggled to say anything good about Rosen. He really struggled coming up with anything. It took him like 2 minutes before he said at the end of the Interview that Rosen did a lot better his senior year then he did in his 1st two years. Man this guy is just a freaking cancer, Bean will not draft this guy I can just feel it. Rosen is not a Buffalo Bills or Bean type player. He started off by saying Rosen came in with a Attitude his freshman year and it took a awhile to really get to know him and to get know what he was about, this guy has Ryan Leaf witten all over him. Again his OT at UCLA struggled to say anything good about him. The interview part when Rosen’s name came up became a studdering mess. You could tell he was searching for something good to say. Now you tell me is this a guy the Bills should trade 3 number 1 picks for and a 2nd rounder and 3 rounder. This guy will be out of the league before his rookie contract is up. Plenty of A-Hole HOF QB's out there. Tom Brady is a huge jerk. He yells at players and coaches on the sideline. Favre was a crappy person. I don't care if people like Rosen. I care if he can win. I think he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Maybe because you seem biased and pig-headed on the subject? That may be why people don’t believe you. Just tell us why you really hate the kid will you? Or are you just trying to drag out this thread for as long as possible? He is not a leader of Men. I don’t believe in him at all to me he is Ryan Leaf 2.0 I’m not the only one saying it, lots of stories out there by reputable NFL people and scouts. Edited March 26, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: He is not a leader of Men. I don’t believe in him at all to me he is Ryan Leaf 2.0 I’m not the only one saying it, lots of stories out there by reputable NFL people and scouts. Define “lots” and name some of these sources you’re relying on. You say there are many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You do live in Georgia , right? how awesome would it be if Matty Ice was moonlighting at your dentist office lmao Offseason Job! 8 minutes ago, MJS said: If I was a betting man I'd totally take this bet. Easy money. I tried to bet him earlier. He won't take it because he doesn't really believe in what he's saying..just BSing LAMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 @Thurmanator 12074 - Hi Chris Trapasso. Your crusade is awful 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 31 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: Hate to lump all SoCal qbs into 1 group because I know they have 0 effect on one another. But the numbers of USC/UCLA qbs going early and not panning out is alarmingly high. Carson Palmer and Troy Aikman say hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: He is not a leader of Men. I don’t believe in him at all to me he is Ryan Leaf 2.0 I’m not the only one saying it, lots of stories out there by reputable NFL people and scouts. Im sorry this is absolute BS and I am not even sure if Rosen is my top pick at QB "not a leader of men" do you realize what a ahole Jim Kelly was coming out of college and his his younger life. When i was stationed in Cape Cod I sat and had beers with a group of military policement from my unit that were at a bar that Jim Kelly frequented.....and they told me of the day where Jim Kelly (already married) asked a waitress for her number.....when she refused him he threw a drink in her face. That same QB is beloved by the bills famdom and over time matured into the man that he is today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, ndirish1978 said: @Thurmanator 12074 - Hi Chris Trapasso. Your crusade is awful Weaker armed QB who's strength is the long ball, inconsistent short to intermediate thrower, shotgun QB who played in a simple high school offense designed for college. SIGN ME UP! 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Im sorry this is absolute BS and I am not even sure if Rosen is my top pick at QB "not a leader of men" do you realize what a ahole Jim Kelly was coming out of college and his his younger life. When i was stationed in Cape Cod I sat and had beers with a group of military policement from my unit that were at a bar that Jim Kelly frequented.....and they told me of the day where Jim Kelly (already married) asked a waitress for her number.....when she refused him he threw a drink in her face. That same QB is beloved by the bills famdom and over time matured into the man that he is today. I've heard similar stories as others have I'm sure. Besides who wasn't an ahole when they were younger. That's what youth is for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: I’m in Lowe’s parking lot listening to NFL network and there Interviewing Kolton Miller UCLA OT. They asked him his opinion about Rosen. He struggled to say anything good about Rosen. He really struggled coming up with anything. It took him like 2 minutes before he said at the end of the Interview that Rosen did a lot better his senior year then he did in his 1st two years. Man this guy is just a freaking cancer, Bean will not draft this guy I can just feel it. Rosen is not a Buffalo Bills or Bean type player. He started off by saying Rosen came in with a Attitude his freshman year and it took a awhile to really get to know him and to get know what he was about, this guy has Ryan Leaf witten all over him. Again his OT at UCLA struggled to say anything good about him. The interview part when Rosen’s name came up became a studdering mess. You could tell he was searching for something good to say. Now you tell me is this a guy the Bills should trade 3 number 1 picks for and a 2nd rounder and 3 rounder. This guy will be out of the league before his rookie contract is up. If you didn't know, Conor McDermott plays for the Bills. Is Conor wrong? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 My biggest fear about Rosen (in addition to his durability) is that I worry that he may not be the type that eats-breaths-and-sleeps football. This is a guy who may not be in the game for the long haul. Not saying that this is a verdict, but I hope that if the Bills really do like him and intend to draft him they confirm that he has the burning desire to be around the game for a decade or more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Blokes wins. His dentist looks like a classy Mia Khalifa, well, that's what he says. I would need a check-up twice a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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