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Prediction Rudolph will go before Rosen if the Bills are selecting a QB at 12

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3 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Maybe because you seem biased and pig-headed on the subject? That may be why people don’t believe you. Just tell us why you really hate the kid will you? Or are you just trying to drag out this thread for as long as possible?

He is not a leader of Men. I don’t believe in him at all to me he is Ryan Leaf 2.0 I’m not the only one saying it,  lots of stories out there by reputable NFL people and scouts. 

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1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

He is not a leader of Men. I don’t believe in him at all to me he is Ryan Leaf 2.0 I’m not the only one saying it,  lots of stories out there by reputable NFL people and scouts. 

Define “lots” and name some of these sources you’re relying on. You say there are many.

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38 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

You do live in Georgia , right?

 

how awesome would it be if Matty Ice was moonlighting at your dentist office lmao 

Offseason Job!

8 minutes ago, MJS said:

If I was a betting man I'd totally take this bet. Easy money.

I tried to bet him earlier. He won't take it because he doesn't really believe in what he's saying..just BSing LAMP.

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31 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said:

Hate to lump all SoCal qbs into 1 group because I know they have 0 effect on one another.  But the numbers of USC/UCLA qbs going early and not panning out is alarmingly high.

Carson Palmer and Troy Aikman say hello

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6 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

He is not a leader of Men. I don’t believe in him at all to me he is Ryan Leaf 2.0 I’m not the only one saying it,  lots of stories out there by reputable NFL people and scouts. 

Im sorry this is absolute BS and I am not even sure if Rosen is my top pick at QB

 

"not a leader of men" do you realize what a ahole Jim Kelly was coming out of college and his his younger life.

 

When i was stationed in Cape Cod I sat and had beers with a group of military policement from my unit that were at a bar that Jim Kelly frequented.....and they told me of the day where Jim Kelly (already married) asked a waitress for her number.....when she refused him he threw a drink in her face.

 

That same QB is beloved by the bills famdom and over time matured into the man that he is today.

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Just now, ndirish1978 said:

@Thurmanator 12074 - Hi Chris Trapasso. Your crusade is awful

Weaker armed QB who's strength is the long ball, inconsistent short to intermediate thrower, shotgun QB who played in a simple high school offense designed for college. SIGN ME UP!

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Im sorry this is absolute BS and I am not even sure if Rosen is my top pick at QB

 

"not a leader of men" do you realize what a ahole Jim Kelly was coming out of college and his his younger life.

 

When i was stationed in Cape Cod I sat and had beers with a group of military policement from my unit that were at a bar that Jim Kelly frequented.....and they told me of the day where Jim Kelly (already married) asked a waitress for her number.....when she refused him he threw a drink in her face.

 

That same QB is beloved by the bills famdom and over time matured into the man that he is today.

I've heard similar stories as others have I'm sure. Besides who wasn't an ahole when they were younger. That's what youth is for!

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25 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

I’m in Lowe’s parking lot listening to NFL network and there Interviewing  Kolton Miller UCLA OT. 

They asked him his opinion about Rosen. He struggled to say anything good about Rosen. He really struggled coming up with anything. It took him like 2 minutes before he said at the end of the Interview that Rosen did a lot better his senior year then he did in his 1st two years. Man this guy is just a freaking cancer, Bean will not draft this guy I can just feel it. Rosen is not a Buffalo Bills or Bean type player. He started off by saying Rosen came in with a Attitude his freshman year and it took a awhile to really get to know him and to get know what he was about, this guy has Ryan Leaf witten all over him. Again his OT at UCLA struggled to say anything good about him. The interview part when Rosen’s name came up became a studdering mess. You could tell he was searching for something good to say. Now you tell me is this a guy the Bills should trade 3 number 1 picks for and a 2nd rounder and 3 rounder. This guy will be out of the league before his rookie contract is up. 

 

 

If you didn't know, Conor McDermott plays for the Bills.  
Is Conor wrong?

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My biggest fear about Rosen (in addition to his durability) is that I worry that he may not be the type that eats-breaths-and-sleeps football. This is a guy who may not be in the game for the long haul. Not saying that this is a verdict, but I hope that if the Bills really do like him and intend to draft him they confirm that he has the burning desire to be around the game for a decade or more.

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49 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Blokes wins.  His dentist looks like a classy Mia Khalifa, well, that's what he says.

I would need a check-up twice a week! 

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53 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Blokes wins.  His dentist looks like a classy Mia Khalifa, well, that's what he says.

You wouldn't know how she looks now would you?;)

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5 minutes ago, smuvtalker said:

I would need a check-up twice a week! 

Yeah, I'd definitely max out my dental insurance.  

Just now, horned dogs said:

You wouldn't know how she looks now would you?;)

I'm religious, not dead :P

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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/josh_rosen_and_baker_mayfield.html

 

 

JOSH ROSEN, UCLA

Kolton Miller, offensive tackle, on Rosen and rumors about his aloofness: "I disagree. Josh came in No. 1 high school guy, a little cocky, of course you hear off-campus stuff about him, but as the years went on he really matured, he's really well-rounded, he doesn't try to be more than what he has to be, a really good leader. I don't really have anything negative to say about him."

Miller on whether Rosen provided strong leadership: "Yeah, I would say so. He always did his work on the field and always off the field. He probably worked the hardest off the field. Really smart guy. Really well respected."

Miller on Rosen's coachability: "There's been some negative stigmas about him. Coming from a player, he's a great player, he does everything right, well rounded, nothing negative to say about him." 

Miller on the rumors of the team not rallying around Rosen: "No, I mean, our offense was a pretty tight clique. I don't believe that at all."

Scott Quessenberry, OL, on how Rosen handles adversity: "He performed great in situations where we needed him to perform great. When our backs were against the wall against Texas A&M, we looked to him to lead us and obviously he did that. I think he threw for over 470 yards, 4 touchdowns, all in the second half. When things go wrong and aren't looking the way you want them to look, Josh is a guy you want to have in the backfield commanding the offense and making all the throws and making all the reads."

Quessenberry on negative comments about Rosen: "I don't know where it comes from. It drives me insane. I have a really good relationship with Josh, and I think he'll tell you the same thing about me and we talk, and for him to get the rap that he gets, it's BS because of the type of guy that he is and the type of standup human being that he is and the type of pro that he's going to be. He's a great dude, I love hanging around him and being with him, and whoever gets him is extremely lucky. They're getting a once in a millennium talent in my opinion."

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24 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Define “lots” and name some of these sources you’re relying on. You say there are many.

google is your best friend 

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4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

West coast guys stay on the west coast huh?

Andrew Luck went to Stanford....so I guess Indianapolis is in the West Coast.

Mark Sanchez went to USC and all 3 teams he's played for were not in the west.

Sam Darnold I guess won't go 1-4 since none of those teams are on the west coast.

And Tom Brady is from California!

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9 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

google is your best friend 

In other words, you have none beyond a handful of youtube clips of talking heads. What a joke buddy.

 

If I showed you a picture of Rosen in a MAGA hat, would your tune change? I bet it might. 

 

Keep this going though. Keep digging that hole for yourself.

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4 hours ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

If The Bills are staying at 12 and there choice is between Rudolph or Rosen, I predict the Bills will select Rudolph. I’m praying the Jets take Rosen. Rosen does not fit the Bills or this towns culture, nor does he seem to fit the Process that Coach McD has instituted on this team. I also think that Rosen will be the biggest bust at QB in this draft. I have him rated outside the top 8 and in my opinion he will be that QB that drops in this draft. The TV networks will keep showing him in the green room with all the game day pundits on TV savaging him and us TV viewers with stories of why he’s dropping. To me he has the most red flags and problems. Also I will have to question weather I want to support him as a Bills QB if he were to get drafted by the Bills. My opinion is the Bills are targeting Josh Allen and Mason Rudolph. If they trade up to the 6th pick with the colts I can see them getting Josh Allen. This would have to be done on draft day after the Broncos pick. So the way I see this playing out is Darnold to the Browns, Chubb to NYG, Baker Mayfield to the Jets then Barkley to the Browns. Then you have Den, who knows what will happen there. Then at 6 if we trade up with the Colts we get to select the number 1 QB on the Bills draft board Josh Allen. The other way this works out is the Bills trade up to 4. Then trade 4 to the NYG to get to the 2nd pick and take Josh Allen at #2. In my opinion Allen is the target for Bean with Rudolph as his fall back position for QB at 12. As far as Rosen this guy is going to be the biggest bust of the draft QB class. The more I listen to him talk and see what his team mates had to say about him the less I like him. He is skinny and injury prone. If anyone has watched the Movie Draft day 

Rosen is this drafts Bo Callahan or a real life Johnny Manziel. 

 

 

So what are his red flags. 

 

And your wrong A projected 2nd round QB is not going before a top 5 graded one 

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4 hours ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

If The Bills are staying at 12 and there choice is between Rudolph or Rosen, I predict the Bills will select Rudolph. I’m praying the Jets take Rosen. Rosen does not fit the Bills or this towns culture, nor does he seem to fit the Process that Coach McD has instituted on this team. I also think that Rosen will be the biggest bust at QB in this draft. I have him rated outside the top 8 and in my opinion he will be that QB that drops in this draft. The TV networks will keep showing him in the green room with all the game day pundits on TV savaging him and us TV viewers with stories of why he’s dropping. To me he has the most red flags and problems. Also I will have to question weather I want to support him as a Bills QB if he were to get drafted by the Bills. My opinion is the Bills are targeting Josh Allen and Mason Rudolph. If they trade up to the 6th pick with the colts I can see them getting Josh Allen. This would have to be done on draft day after the Broncos pick. So the way I see this playing out is Darnold to the Browns, Chubb to NYG, Baker Mayfield to the Jets then Barkley to the Browns. Then you have Den, who knows what will happen there. Then at 6 if we trade up with the Colts we get to select the number 1 QB on the Bills draft board Josh Allen. The other way this works out is the Bills trade up to 4. Then trade 4 to the NYG to get to the 2nd pick and take Josh Allen at #2. In my opinion Allen is the target for Bean with Rudolph as his fall back position for QB at 12. As far as Rosen this guy is going to be the biggest bust of the draft QB class. The more I listen to him talk and see what his team mates had to say about him the less I like him. He is skinny and injury prone. If anyone has watched the Movie Draft day 

Rosen is this drafts Bo Callahan or a real life Johnny Manziel. 

 

 

I think you are trying to set an all time record for laugh/confusion reps.

If thats the case, you stand a good chance and are off to a good start. 

Kudos to  you for not only writing this, but also signing your name to it.

These 4 weeks are going to do some crazy things to the mind. This is a prime example.

Simply put, and respectfully - dude, you are nuts!

 

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3 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

I'm happy this thread exists. Usually, around this time of year, "conventional wisdom" has become so overstated that the notion of such things as Rudolf going before Rosen sound daft. But, there are surprises every draft.

 

More and more, I'm hoping we stay at 12, and take Jackson.

Worst idea ever.  Id rather have Rudolph than Jackson. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. LJ cant throw in college, wont be able to in the NFL.  Once hes starts breaking from the pocket hes going to get demolished.

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22 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

google is your best friend 

 

Google is good.  Which is where I found 3 of Rosen's ex-teammates speaking very highly of him.  

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1 hour ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

I’m in Lowe’s parking lot listening to NFL network and there Interviewing  Kolton Miller UCLA OT. 

They asked him his opinion about Rosen. He struggled to say anything good about Rosen. He really struggled coming up with anything. It took him like 2 minutes before he said at the end of the Interview that Rosen did a lot better his senior year then he did in his 1st two years. Man this guy is just a freaking cancer, Bean will not draft this guy I can just feel it. Rosen is not a Buffalo Bills or Bean type player. He started off by saying Rosen came in with a Attitude his freshman year and it took a awhile to really get to know him and to get know what he was about, this guy has Ryan Leaf witten all over him. Again his OT at UCLA struggled to say anything good about him. The interview part when Rosen’s name came up became a studdering mess. You could tell he was searching for something good to say. Now you tell me is this a guy the Bills should trade 3 number 1 picks for and a 2nd rounder and 3 rounder. This guy will be out of the league before his rookie contract is up. 

 

Lies lies lies

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7 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said:

Worst idea ever.  Id rather have Rudolph than Jackson. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. LJ cant throw in college, wont be able to in the NFL.  Once hes starts breaking from the pocket hes going to get demolished.

 

On what basis?

He actually CAN and has thrown very well in college.

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26 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said:

google is your best friend 

 

Are you not the same guy that was Ga Ga over Brock Osweiller?

 

Then excuse me while I use your “scouting” report as Toilet Paper 

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