Sal says UFA QB's was not the Bills plan

[boater]

None of the UFA QB's wanted to pay NY state income tax. Truth hurts.

[26CornerBlitz]

14 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

I think Foles is very much in play or I'm waiting to see a blockbuster trade for #2 overall. 

 

Foles? Nope. 

[Boatdrinks]

16 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

I think Foles is very much in play or I'm waiting to see a blockbuster trade for #2 overall. 

 

Wishful thinking at this point. 

[thebandit27]

7 minutes ago, boater said:

None of the UFA QB's wanted to pay NY state income tax. Truth hurts.

 

But the DL guys didn't mind?

 

 

Brutal take

[JMF2006]

1 hour ago, GG said:

And if there's no trade for a vet, then it's a reckless strategy regardless of what they do in the draft.  You don't go into the season with Peterman, draft pick and a Matt Moore.

 

 

I would rather start the rookie  the Bills draft than half the scrubs and walking wounded who got big money this week

7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

But the DL guys didn't mind?

 

 

Brutal take

 

They are not as smart  

 

Teams are desperate for QBs and today's big signings will be tomorrow's big cap crisis.

Edited March 14, 2018 by JMF2006

[dave mcbride]

34 minutes ago, 1billsfan said:

 

IMO, I think this might be the possible order of the Bills thinking...

 

Plan A: Rosen (moving up)

Plan B: Jackson (staying put)

Plan C: Foles (all 1st rd QBs gone, couldn't get a trade done situation)

 

I think Darnold is going #1, Allen is too much of a project and Mayfield is possibly off their board because his amped up, in your face, personality is too much.

 

 

Agreed: 

 

[reddogblitz]

59 minutes ago, DefenseWins said:

Why is it reckless? The worst that happens if the rookie sucks, Peterman comes in and throws a slew of interceptions, and/or we have to suffer watching Moore - is that they go 0-16 and we get the #1 draft pick at next years draft... Works for me...

 

 

Some of yall just can't get enough of losing I guess.

[Nihilarian]

1 hour ago, DefenseWins said:

Why is it reckless? The worst that happens if the rookie sucks, Peterman comes in and throws a slew of interceptions, and/or we have to suffer watching Moore - is that they go 0-16 and we get the #1 draft pick at next years draft... Works for me...

 

Hey, the team traded away to Cleveland the best QB this franchise has had since Kelly, Bledsoe. So perhaps the plan is to be the next Cleveland by making all the wrong choices ON QB's in the draft.

 

Seriously, there must be a plan for Foles or Andrew Luck or something because I just don't see Buffalo going into training camp with just Peterman or some other scrub QB like Moore. Even if they draft one of the top three QB's the only one I'd start from day one is Mayfield. Sorry, I just don't care for polished turds in Darnold, Rosen. 

[greeneblitz]

2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

Has to be a trade for Foles.

Yeah, ok, they are desperately trying to get to the top of the draft just to trade their top pick for a guy who will take up the entire rest of their cap and has had one great game to his name in his career and was just about out of the league just one year ago, l thank god most of you aren't running things.

[DKBills25]

What’s the plan then? 

[greeneblitz]

54 minutes ago, 1billsfan said:

 

IMO, I think this might be the possible order of the Bills thinking...

 

Plan A: Rosen (moving up)

Plan B: Jackson (staying put)

Plan C: Foles (all 1st rd QBs gone, couldn't get a trade done situation)

 

I think Darnold is going #1, Allen is too much of a project and Mayfield is possibly off their board because his amped up, in your face, personality is too much.

 

 

You think its their plan or its yours????? Mayfield's personality is what we finally need on this team, his "issues" are way, way, way overblown. The kid had one incident which was basically a fight.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...the "legal" non-tampering and eventual 4PM FA start has passed and the feeding frenzy is dying down...."cat 'n mouse game is on......Bflo was hinting about releasing Cassell back in 2015 and his agent put a proposal on the table which Whaley balked at......he was then released.......within three days, his agent caved to get his client a job and he re-signed with Bflo.....I'd bet agents are working the phones right now with known teams possibly looking for a bridge vet if their guy was nt in the "first wave"......McBeane is in the catbird seat letting those calls go to voice mail momentarily.......my unsubstantiated GUESS is that he has terms and dollars in mind.............

[BuffaloRush]

2 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

 

 

This is exactly what I was saying.  They were targeting a lower end FA QB the entire time

[DefenseWins]

12 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Hey, the team traded away to Cleveland the best QB this franchise has had since Kelly, Bledsoe. So perhaps the plan is to be the next Cleveland by making all the wrong choices ON QB's in the draft.

 

Seriously, there must be a plan for Foles or Andrew Luck or something because I just don't see Buffalo going into training camp with just Peterman or some other scrub QB like Moore. Even if they draft one of the top three QB's the only one I'd start from day one is Mayfield. Sorry, I just don't care for polished turds in Darnold, Rosen. 

 

I like Mayfield too. But if McBean thinks Darnold or Rosen is the better choice I will support that choice all the way. TT was simply not good enough and I fully support the trade of TT to Clev.

 

The fact that McBean made that deal and hasn't signed any FA QB's tells me that he almost certainly knows that he can get a deal done for a top 3 QB... It wouldn't surprise me if He already has a contingency plan with Clev for #4 should the need arise. (I don't think that it will though) I believe that Clev will draft their QB at #1. I also believe that the Bills will trade for either #2 or #3... Just Chill and BILLIEVE!

 

[BillsFan4]

26 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Agreed: 

 

Wow that tweet he replied to was quite interesting -

 

 

Wouldn't you think he'd want to gather as much information as he possonly could on every 1 of these QB if they're really drafting a guy at 1? 

 

Unless they're really just that sold on Darnold. 

 

I mean, they could still have them both in for private workouts.

But why not go to their pro days anyway?  

 

Do you know, Did anyone One from the Browns attend? Their asst GM maybe? 

[Chuck Wagon]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

This is exactly what I was saying.  They were targeting a lower end FA QB the entire time

 

 

That's fine.  But they better have a deal in place to get a legitimate option in the draft, because Peterman / a Matt Moore level FA / unwarranted confidence on the ability to move up is pretty awful roster management.

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

That's fine.  But they better have a deal in place to get a legitimate option in the draft, because Peterman / a Matt Moore level FA / unwarranted confidence on the ability to move up is pretty awful roster management.

Do you honestly think they're that dumb, based off what they've done the last year?

[Chuck Wagon]

9 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Do you honestly think they're that dumb, based off what they've done the last year?

 

 

I would like to hope not, but 2 decades of being completely underwhelmed by the decision making at OBD, especially when it comes to QB, has left me with a completely earned healthy level of skepticism.  

[oldmanfan]

Just now, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

I would like to hope not, but 2 decades of being completely underwhelmed by the decision making at OBD, especially when it comes to QB, has left me with a completely earned healthy level of skepticism.  

You and others need to quit lumping different regimes in with this one.  It seems pretty clear they are positioning to get a top QB pick this year.

[Chuck Wagon]

10 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

You and others need to quit lumping different regimes in with this one.  It seems pretty clear they are positioning to get a top QB pick this year.

 

 

And I hope they've got it in place because they've left their baskside wide open.

[1billsfan]

10 minutes ago, greeneblitz said:

You think its their plan or its yours????? Mayfield's personality is what we finally need on this team, his "issues" are way, way, way overblown. The kid had one incident which was basically a fight.

 

I just don't see his personality meshing with McDermott or Beane. I'm guessing they don't want their starting QB constantly writing checks (talking) that their team has to help cash week after week.

 

Yes, I personally would not draft Mayfield, and I would rather they draft Jackson who I think is not only a much better prospect, but who's a genuinely good guy that professional players will love to play for and have as their leader. Mayfield's brash "look at me" style wears thin fast in the NFL.

 

 

[Chuck Wagon]

30 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...the "legal" non-tampering and eventual 4PM FA start has passed and the feeding frenzy is dying down...."cat 'n mouse game is on......Bflo was hinting about releasing Cassell back in 2015 and his agent put a proposal on the table which Whaley balked at......he was then released.......within three days, his agent caved to get his client a job and he re-signed with Bflo.....I'd bet agents are working the phones right now with known teams possibly looking for a bridge vet if their guy was nt in the "first wave"......McBeane is in the catbird seat letting those calls go to voice mail momentarily.......my unsubstantiated GUESS is that he has terms and dollars in mind.............

 

 

Cool.  We'll be in awesome position to put Kellen Clemens over the barrel in negotiations.

[ILBillsfan]

They were interested in bradford but asking price too high....i agree w them not over paying for a rent an arm when im sure qb is the first pick for bills in draft

[SouthNYfan]

1 hour ago, 1billsfan said:

 

IMO, I think this might be the possible order of the Bills thinking...

 

Plan A: Rosen (moving up)

Plan B: Jackson (staying put)

Plan C: Foles (all 1st rd QBs gone, couldn't get a trade done situation)

 

I think Darnold is going #1, Allen is too much of a project and Mayfield is possibly off their board because his amped up, in your face, personality is too much.

 

 

 

Eagles want better than a 1st AND a 4th for Foles.

This has been said like 100000 times.

They don't want to budge.

I don't know why people keep slinging Foles' name like he's gonna be cheap, or even an option, because of Beane gives up that for him, he should be drawn and quartered.

[FloridaSnow]

3 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

Cool.  We'll be in awesome position to put Kellen Clemens over the barrel in negotiations.

 

But they’ll never see it coming! It’s the ultimate zig when they thing you’re going to zag move! 

[NickelCity]

I agree with others, QBs were getting paid yesterday and we're getting a top rookie. I think it's McCarron or Moore and the rookie. Beane cares about the cap and I love him for it. 

[reddogblitz]

13 minutes ago, DefenseWins said:

 

I like Mayfield too. But if McBean thinks Darnold or Rosen is the better choice I will support that choice all the way. TT was simply not good enough and I fully support the trade of TT to Clev.

 

The fact that McBean made that deal and hasn't signed any FA QB's tells me that he almost certainly knows that he can get a deal done for a top 3 QB... It wouldn't surprise me if He already has a contingency plan with Clev for #4 should the need arise. (I don't think that it will though) I believe that Clev will draft their QB at #1. I also believe that the Bills will trade for either #2 or #3... Just Chill and BILLIEVE!

 

 

We need to trade up to the golden ticket (1st pick in draft) if we're gonna depend on the draft to get our guy.  Anything else and we're going to just get one of the top 5 guys and that may not be good enough.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

6 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

Cool.  We'll be in awesome position to put Kellen Clemens over the barrel in negotiations.

 

 

...I have him tied with Jimmy The Pickle Clausen and Victoria Barkley.....pick your poison.....

[slaphappy]

Only 4225 hours until the season starts. I'm getting concerned.

[SouthNYfan]

1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...I have him tied with Jimmy The Pickle Clausen and Victoria Barkley.....pick your poison.....

 

I heard Matt hasselbeck might come into try out 

I think we still have Vince Young's# too

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

McCarron hasn't received an offer from the pats. 

 

I personally would like the bills to consider making him the bridge?

 

he's the best of those left, imo.

 

Conflicting reports of Patriots' interest in AJ McCarron as Tom Brady's backup

 

by John Breech 1h ago

 

Conflicting reports

 

According to WEEI radio in Boston, the Patriots have made a contract offer to McCarron, although it's not clear how big or small the offer might be. It's also not clear if McCarron is considering the offer and that's because if he signs in New England, he'd basically have a zero percent chance of becoming the starter due to the fact that Tom Brady plans on playing until he's 45. Also, according to the Boston Globe, McCarron never actually received an offer. 

Whatever happens, it's starting to look like McCarron doesn't have a ton of options, which is bad news when you consider that free agency hasn't even started yet. Although there's been a legal tampering period going on since Monday, free agent players can't start signing new contracts until 4 p.m. on Wednesday.  

 

If the Patriots didn't make an offer to McCarron, then it wouldn't be a surprise to see them draft a potential backup for Tom Brady in April.

Edited March 14, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[1billsfan]

11 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Eagles want better than a 1st AND a 4th for Foles.

This has been said like 100000 times.

They don't want to budge.

I don't know why people keep slinging Foles' name like he's gonna be cheap, or even an option, because of Beane gives up that for him, he should be drawn and quartered.

 

If the worst case scenario happens, and the Bills just can not reach a deal with a team picking in the top 5 without them having to give up their entire draft, and then a team trades ahead of them and picks Jackson, the Bills would almost have to give up their #22 pick for Foles.

 

If they don't, they will forever have to face the question, "Hey, why didn't you just draft Watson or Mahomes in 2017?" The only buffer from that disaster QB scenario is trading for the Super Bowl MVP who beat your division rival, with a 1st round pick. That's the price you pay when you pass on good QBs in the draft, when you didn't have a good QB.

 

 

Edited March 14, 2018 by 1billsfan

[oldmanfan]

5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

We need to trade up to the golden ticket (1st pick in draft) if we're gonna depend on the draft to get our guy.  Anything else and we're going to just get one of the top 5 guys and that may not be good enough.

There is not one guy in this draft.  It's not like any of them are a guy like Luck.

 

I suspect they have a ranking and they'll move accordingly.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

I heard Matt hasselbeck might come into try out 

I think we still have Vince Young's# too

 

 

...well I'm thinking that perhaps as the "Second Chance Saloon", we could lure Leinart outta the hot tub and he could be our next Rich Gannon resurrection.......

[SouthNYfan]

4 minutes ago, 1billsfan said:

 

If the worst case scenario happens, and the Bills just can not reach a deal with a team picking in the top 5 without them having to give up their entire draft, and then a team trades ahead of them and picks Jackson, the Bills would almost have to give up their #22 pick for Foles.

 

If they don't, they will forever have to face the question, "Hey, why didn't you just draft Watson or Mahomes in 2017?" The only buffer from that disaster QB scenario is trading for the Super Bowl MVP who beat your division rival, with a 1st round pick. That's the price you pay when you pass on good QBs in the draft, when you didn't have a good QB.

 

 

 

Look.

If there are 4 QBs taken before #12, the bills will take Jackson/Allen/whatever of the top5 is left.

I would still rather than than multiple picks for Foles.

 

[reddogblitz]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

There is not one guy in this draft.  It's not like any of them are a guy like Luck.

 

I suspect they have a ranking and they'll move accordingly.

 

As I see it, there are maybe 2 guys that can start right away maybe. Mayfield and Rosen.  The others are projects.  If history is any indication, at least 2 or 3 of them will be busts.  To my way of thinking, you don't trade several #1s for a project.

 

IF we can get to 4 or 5 as some suggest, Rosen and Mayfield and Darnold or any combination could very well be off the board.  Everyone has Barkley penciled n for Cleveland at 1, but they very well could go for Rosen themselves.  Nobody picks first round QBs like the Clowns do.

 

That's why I say if this is truly our plan, we gotta get the golden ticket. Maybe they have a 1 and 1a. then they gotta have #2.   this is not a year to say as long as we get one of the top 5 guys we'll be OK IMHO.

[Augie]

3 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Translation: We didn't sign any of the guys we were pursuing so we are going to say we weren't pursuing any of them to not look inept.

 

Or......we are all in on the top of the draft new guy, which is where all indications point. A bottom tier FA QB is fine for the vet backup. We shall see. 

[Nihilarian]

10 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

I heard Matt hasselbeck might come into try out 

I think we still have Vince Young's# too

The heck with him as Geno Smith and EJ are still out there...

 

Matt Cassell anyone?

 

They...must...have...a...plan!

[oldmanfan]

Just now, reddogblitz said:

 

As I see it, there are maybe 2 guys that can start right away maybe. Mayfield and Rosen.  The others are projects.  If history is any indication, at least 2 or 3 of them will be busts.  To my way of thinking, you don't trade several #1s for a project.

 

IF we can get to 4 or 5 as some suggest, Rosen and Mayfield and Darnold or any combination could very well be off the board.  Everyone has Barkley penciled n for Cleveland at 1, but they very well could go for Rosen themselves.  Nobody picks first round QBs like the Clowns do.

 

That's why I say if this is truly our plan, we gotta get the golden ticket. Maybe they have a 1 and 1a. then they gotta have #2.   this is not a year to say as long as we get one of the top 5 guys we'll be OK IMHO.

I disagree. The top four all have strengths and weaknesses. My bet is they go for Rosen

[1billsfan]

17 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Look.

If there are 4 QBs taken before #12, the bills will take Jackson/Allen/whatever of the top5 is left.

I would still rather than than multiple picks for Foles.

 

 

There may not be any of the top 5 left. That's the scenario I was talking about.

 

Kansas City came from pick #27 to the Bills #10 spot to draft a QB and they already had Alex Smith. Teams that could trade ahead of the Bills for the last of the top 5 QBs in this class are...

 

15. Cardinals

17. Chargers

27. Saints

28. Steelers

29. Jaguars

 

The Bills may have to trade up from #12 to even get the chance to draft Lamar Jackson.

 

Edited March 14, 2018 by 1billsfan