BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I must admit. When the Bills traded down last year and passed on Mahomes and Watson I was frustrated. I was thinking, same old Bills again just passing on QBs in the first rounds. Fast forward 11 months ... The Bills have an amazing young corner in Tre White. They get a 1st rounder out of that trade. And because of that, they now have the ammunition to move up to the top 5 and get their guy. (Along with that slick trade with Glenn) Beane clearly had a vision and a plan all along, and he loooks like a very smart man as of today. To answer my original question, it’s looking pretttttyyy awesome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Hamburg Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Ditto that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Well to be devils advocate it depends on IF they are able to finish the plan and get a QB as good or better than Watson and or Mahommes careers are 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Passing on Watson was a big, big mistake. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, rodneykm said: Passing on Watson was a big, big mistake. i agree 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, rodneykm said: Passing on Watson was a big, big mistake. One that I’m sure you wouldn’t have made, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, rodneykm said: Passing on Watson was a big, big mistake. Way to early to make this call 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Bobby Hooks said: One that I’m sure you wouldn’t have made, right? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Cool your jets on Watson. He looked good for a handful of games and then suffered a serious injury. Anecdotal evidence suggests that QB's who suffer serious injuries very early in their careers never amount to much. So that bears watching. As for Mahomes, wake me when he proves anything other than he has a strong arm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well to be devils advocate it depends on IF they are able to finish the plan and get a QB as good or better than Watson and or Mahommes careers are If they get into the top three they are assured of getting a higher rated prospect coming out of college than either Watson or Mahommes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Either way NONE of it matters if they DONT get the QB in the garage Just now, K-9 said: If they get into the top three they are assured of getting a higher rated prospect coming out of college than either Watson or Mahommes. See thats the Key. They HAVE to finish this move off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 This was the plan all along. First and foremost, everyone needs to move on from Watson, Mahommes and every other QB in the 2017 draft. They were NEVER going to happen, for one simple reason: McD didnt have HIS GM and Scouts in. It didnt matter what QB was available to us, we werent picking one. McD was smart enough to not pin his career and future on the QB scouting of Whaley and Co. What he DID use them for is DB and LB scouting, which is their strength. So with that said, lets move on. So the plan was to move down and get setup with as much ammo for the 2018 draft as possible. McD got us through Year 0, and now Beane and he can build into the first true Year 1. The trading away of Watkins and Darby were to help set this up. Continued on with Tyrod and Glenn. It's all about being the best equipped to make moves, and right now, the Bills are the best equipped team to move around in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Either way NONE of it matters if they DONT get the QB in the garage See thats the Key. They HAVE to finish this move off Nobody is going to argue that; it's the whole idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well to be devils advocate it depends on IF they are able to finish the plan and get a QB as good or better than Watson and or Mahommes careers are Yup. Id take Watson over white and 22 this year. Maybe we nail it and he he falls apart but right now we are still coming from behind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I think Mahomes. who KC drafted will be a superstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Cool your jets on Watson. He looked good for a handful of games and then suffered a serious injury. Anecdotal evidence suggests that QB's who suffer serious injuries very early in their careers never amount to much. So that bears watching. As for Mahomes, wake me when he proves anything other than he has a strong arm. I think Watson will continue to be a stud. Nothing he did this year (injury included) will convince me otherwise. Mahomes on the other hand, I think he’ll be a disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc said: As for Mahomes, wake me when he proves anything other than he has a strong arm. Can I get a "AMEN"?!?!?! Preach brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Well to be devils advocate it depends on IF they are able to finish the plan and get a QB as good or better than Watson and or Mahommes careers are Very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds 808080 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Well written!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsMagic1 said: I think Mahomes. who KC drafted will be a superstar Jeff, is that you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, K-9 said: Nobody is going to argue that; it's the whole idea. I mean, not arguing it really but I feel like we already did pretty darn good. Got a whole bunch of cap space and moved to 12 for a guy that’s hasn’t played a full season since 2015. Edited March 13, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsMagic1 said: I think Mahomes. who KC drafted will be a superstar 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Jeff, is that you? I think it might be... lol Edited March 13, 2018 by Perk71 Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsMagic1 said: I think Mahomes. who KC drafted will be a superstar I really hope not lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, rodneykm said: Passing on Watson was a big, big mistake. In a vacuum - I agree. However... We didn't have Beane in place yet. We were running that Draft on a GM and scouts that were not going to be there the following year. As such, I can understand McDermott not wanting Whaley and company picking the next Franchise QB. Edited March 13, 2018 by BillsFanForever19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Trust the process This GM and coach have a plan and are executing it to precision. They will get the guy they want and won’t do something stupid like giving up all the draft picks they accumulated to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Xwnyer said: Trust the process This GM and coach have a plan and are executing it to precision. They will get the guy they want and won’t do something stupid like giving up all the draft picks they accumulated to do it. For the first time ever as a Bills fan, I can confidently say I do trust this process 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Bobby Hooks said: I mean, not arguing it really but I feel like we already did pretty darn good. Got a whole bunch of cap space and moved to 12 for a guy that’s hasn’t played a full season since 2015. I I agree; we essentially got 2nd round value for Cordy and he's worth it if healthy, certainly. I wouldn't have minded keeping him, actually. But moving up those nine spots puts us on the threshold to make the bolder move into the top three. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I think Watson will continue to be a stud. Nothing he did this year (injury included) will convince me otherwise. Anything is possible. We'll find out soon enough. 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: I agree; we essentially got 2nd round value for Cordy and he's worth it if healthy, certainly. I wouldn't have minded keeping him, actually. But moving up those nine spots puts us on the threshold to make the bolder move into the top three. Nice. Yeah, but will he never be healthy again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I think Watson will continue to be a stud. Nothing he did this year (injury included) will convince me otherwise. Mahomes on the other hand, I think he’ll be a disaster. I think Watson will always be a stud as well. I also think he'll be a pretty good QB Edited March 13, 2018 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Anything is possible. We'll find out soon enough. Yeah, but will he never be healthy again? Remains to be seen. Not our problem if he passes his physical in Cincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I think Watson and Mahomes might be better pros than anyone in this year's crop of QBs. Hopefully that isn't the case and we land the next Jim Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: Remains to be seen. Not our problem if he passes his physical in Cincy. Nope, not the Bills' problem anymore. Just saying that moving him and getting something, especially what they got, is impressive, seeing as how it doesn't seem he'll ever be able to stay healthy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I liked Mahomes more than anyone in this year’s class but can’t deny that Beane has done an awesome job so far. Curious to see if fan support remains as high when we find out all these moves were an effort to move up for Josh Allen though lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 NOBODY gets every decision right. These guys are doing more right than any FO in a long, long time. I’m better off trading #22 since we got Tre and I feel like we almost got #22 for free. Time will tell how they did in the long run, but I feel pretty darn good so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I think Watson will always be a stud as well. I also think he'll be a pretty good QB Have you seen his calves? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If you were McDermott would you have wanted Doug drafting your QB? Of course not. Putting the team in the position to grab a highly touted prospect in a great QB class is grade A work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Have you seen his calves? He's a farmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 AEWSOME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Doc said: Nope, not the Bills' problem anymore. Just saying that moving him and getting something, especially what they got, is impressive, seeing as how it doesn't seem he'll ever be able to stay healthy again. I agree; it's damned impressive when NOBODY and their mothers thought we'd get the equivalent of a 2nd for him. Great job by Beane and Co. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 45 minutes ago, rodneykm said: Absolutely not. even if hindsight is 20/20, of course this is way too early! so this makes you look impulsive and prematuremon your evaluation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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