without a drought Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) With the 12th pick the Colts select DE Marcus Davenport Edited March 13, 2018 by The Drought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Seems pretty plain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Last year the Bears moved from 3rd pick to the 2nd pick to take Mitchell Trubisky. Bears received: No. 2 overall pick. 49ers received:. No. 3 overall pick. No. 67 (third round). No. 111(fourth round). Bears 3rd round pick in 2018. That was to move up 1 spot and we're going to move up 9 spots?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Joshua Jackson, CB Orchard Park Highschool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatixs Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, MtlBillsFan said: Anyone but Rosen! The first pass in the video highlights of Rosen I saw is an intercepted pass in the NFL. Many of his passes in the highlight reel are picks in the NFL. Mayfield or Darnold. Agree brotha', Rosen is the last on my list from the consensus top 4 1)Mayfield 2)Darnold 3)Allen 4)Rosen Allen and Rosen made their living under no pressure and are sluggish, IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, PIZ said: Realistically, what draft picks would it take to get to 3? 2018: 12 + 22 + 53 2019: 3rd Just a guess, may have to give up more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I feel the Bills will move up this year. Just not into the top five because I think If they were going to the number two spot they would have used Glenn to trade up with the NY Giants who are in dire need of a quality tackle. However, they might go up to that number four spot if the right guy for them is still there. Both Rosen and Darnold are ready to start from day one...I just don't like either one. I prefer Mayfield and Allen in which Mayfield can start from day one, Allen might need to sit and develop a bit. None of these QB's are ready for the NFL day 1. They are not pro set QB's. Darnold and Rosen also throw INT's. Maybe Baker can but he has allot to learn too. None of these players are Luck. Not even Winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: I am not of the feeling Bills need to trade up any farther. At 12 they can get several really good players. Drafts never go as expected and Free Agency has allot to offer in QB's. Bills will definetly get a QB in Free Agency who will play next year and maybe one more year. I think Bills will sit at 12 and expect a QB falls to them and my bet is they are counting on Allen and will also take Jackson. They want worldly athletic talent and a project with huge upside. Both these guys fit that and won't have to start. If this falls though they will get a DT or DE whoever grades out better. Or........maybe, just maybe, you take the importance of a franchise QB to heart, as McBeane has REPEATEDLY stated in their short tenure. Get off it folks, there is no conspiracy. We are moving up for a QB, and it wont be Jackson, Allen, or Rudolph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just for fun...Vita Vea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: They didn't move to 12 to pick at 12. Why? Have you heard anything different. I heard Beane say he likes to use his picks. He just made 21 better to a 12. That is a player position jump from where he was. Whole new group of players he gets to look at and it could be Baker or Allen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If we stay at 12 every other team that wants s QB will jump us to get him. We need a QB, every other team knows it. If we get passive we don’t get a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: I am not of the feeling Bills need to trade up any farther. At 12 they can get several really good players. Drafts never go as expected and Free Agency has allot to offer in QB's. Bills will definetly get a QB in Free Agency who will play next year and maybe one more year. I think Bills will sit at 12 and expect a QB falls to them and my bet is they are counting on Allen and will also take Jackson. They want worldly athletic talent and a project with huge upside. Both these guys fit that and won't have to start. If this falls though they will get a DT or DE whoever grades out better. They would likely not have made the moves they have made so far if the plan was to "Stop at 12." It won't happen. More is coming, and it's all a part of a coordinated plan of attack. Refreshing isn't it? We're looking at the first competent regime at OBD since Polian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: They're not trading McCoy Then you will pay with another 1st pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp on da' net Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: It’s not about several good players at 12. It’s about getting an elite QB. Fasten your seatbelt, brother. There isn't an elite QB in this draft...they all have warts! None is ready as a day 1 starter... Rosen- concussions Darnold- decision making, poor footwork and turnovers Allen- Accuracy Mayfield- Height Jackson- Pro style QB abilities Edited March 13, 2018 by pimp on da' net 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuelTime Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MtlBillsFan said: Anyone but Rosen! The first pass in the video highlights of Rosen I saw is an intercepted pass in the NFL. Many of his passes in the highlight reel are picks in the NFL. Mayfield or Darnold. I just watched the highlights from Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield. Rosen definitely got "lucky" on a couple of his throws in that highlight reel, and a couple of them would've most definitely been picks in the NFL. Darnold appears to have the biggest arm between the three, but is the least accurate. Mayfield may not be the 1st QB off the board because of his height, but he will end up being the best QB in this draft. Edited March 13, 2018 by TuelTime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, MtlBillsFan said: Anyone but Rosen! The first pass in the video highlights of Rosen I saw is an intercepted pass in the NFL. Many of his passes in the highlight reel are picks in the NFL. Mayfield or Darnold. amazing how many love a guy they have only seen highlights of and have never actually seen him play. So many of the Bruins games were late evening back East games start late and most don't have the Pac 12 network, I presume. And injuries, injuries, I hope I am dead wrong. I really don't want to be right but I say pass on Josh IRosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, PIZ said: ......and Beane says he loved his draft picks. Does he love a top QB more? Beane does love his draft picks - He loves what he can do with them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, USABuffaloFan said: Then you will pay with another 1st pick. #12, #22, #56, and #96 together are more than enough to get to #2, and definitely enough to get to #3. They are all THIS YEAR picks, which are much more valuable than 2019 picks. And we still have a 2nd (#53) and 3rd (#65) to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: If Cleveland goes QB, the Giants will take Barkley or there will be a deal in place for us to move up to #2 for Rosen or Darnold, Giants go to 3 and take Barkley and load up on extra picks. Wow your awesome, you got Cleveland, Giants and Indy to do everything you WANTED them to do, genius!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: They would likely not have made the moves they have made so far if the plan was to "Stop at 12." It won't happen. More is coming, and it's all a part of a coordinated plan of attack. Refreshing isn't it? We're looking at the first competent regime at OBD since Polian. I may not agree on taking Rosen but this group is absolutely amazing in their aggressiveness, both last draft and the here and now ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: At #12... they trade up to #2 and pick QB Josh Rosen. There is no other answer. /thread Unless of course that franchise center or cornerback is there who will put the team on his back and single handedly will the team to the playoffs for the next 10-15 years!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: Then you will pay with another 1st pick. Don't tell me what to do. I don't tell you to stop posting insanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The 12th pick, the 22nd pick and the 65th pick = the 3rd pick and the 140th pick in the draft. 3rd pick, Josh Rosen QB UCLA 53rd pick Harrison Phillips DT Stanford 55th pick Josey Jewell ILB IOWA 96th pick Tyrell Crosby OT Oregon 121 pick James Daniels C Iowa 140th pick Nathan Shepard DT Fort Hays St 158th pick Kylie Fitts DE Utah 166th pick Kevin Toliver II CB LSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, PIZ said: Last year the Bears moved from 3rd pick to the 2nd pick to take Mitchell Trubisky. Bears received: No. 2 overall pick. 49ers received:. No. 3 overall pick. No. 67 (third round). No. 111(fourth round). Bears 3rd round pick in 2018. That was to move up 1 spot and we're going to move up 9 spots?!?!?! How much did Eagles pay again?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, gobills1212 said: Unless of course that franchise center or cornerback is there who will put the team on his back and single handedly will the team to the playoffs for the next 10-15 years!! I made the joke earlier "Watch the Bills move up to #3... and take Minkah Fitzpatrick" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: Actually, they can only get one very good player. They did not trade up to 12 to pick Lamar Jackson. They're going to move up further. Beane knows the QBs are gonna fly off the board. They moved to 12 to get their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: If we stay at 12 every other team that wants s QB will jump us to get him. We need a QB, every other team knows it. If we get passive we don’t get a QB. Every team at 15-32 will get the players that help them beat everyone ahead for getting 6 QB's in the Top 15 and only 1 that might make it in the NFL. There is a reason why teams later in the draft are always the GOOD team. Because the stupid desperate teams always think they get the next Franchise Elway, Luck, Manning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: Wow your awesome, you got Cleveland, Giants and Indy to do everything you WANTED them to do, genius!!!!! Dude, get with the times! Text messages, spread sheets, trends, analytics, crystal balls, all tools at current NFL GMs disposal. This Isn't your dad's group of GMs from the 60s and 70s.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, USABuffaloFan said: None of these QB's are ready for the NFL day 1. They are not pro set QB's. Darnold and Rosen also throw INT's. Maybe Baker can but he has allot to learn too. None of these players are Luck. Not even Winston. 3 Josh Allen played in a pro-style offense and yet he needs time to develop no question. Most draft pundits have been saying that Rosen is ready to start from day one. 2. Which QB is most ready to start right away in the NFL? Kiper: It's Rosen, who has played under former NFL offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch and has elite physical tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, PIZ said: Last year the Bears moved from 3rd pick to the 2nd pick to take Mitchell Trubisky. Bears received: No. 2 overall pick. 49ers received:. No. 3 overall pick. No. 67 (third round). No. 111(fourth round). Bears 3rd round pick in 2018. That was to move up 1 spot and we're going to move up 9 spots?!?!?! Bunch of Fantasy players, don't realize the real cost. Teams that jump that far for a player usually over value and LOSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, USABuffaloFan said: Every team at 15-32 will get the players that help them beat everyone ahead for getting 6 QB's in the Top 15 and only 1 that might make it in the NFL. There is a reason why teams later in the draft are always the GOOD team. Because the stupid desperate teams always think they get the next Franchise Elway, Luck, Manning. Smh... Parody is real. Unless your from Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: Every team at 15-32 will get the players that help them beat everyone ahead for getting 6 QB's in the Top 15 and only 1 that might make it in the NFL. There is a reason why teams later in the draft are always the GOOD team. Because the stupid desperate teams always think they get the next Franchise Elway, Luck, Manning. And Wentz is???? 1 minute ago, USABuffaloFan said: Bunch of Fantasy players, don't realize the real cost. Teams that jump that far for a player usually over value and LOSE! Remind me again what the Eagles paid to go get Wentz please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) I think that they are going for Cleveland's number 1. then they take either Darnold or Allen. Beane has large Balls. Edited March 13, 2018 by Wily Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I made the joke earlier "Watch the Bills move up to #3... and take Minkah Fitzpatrick" I mean.. good grief!!! Hey, to each their own. All in good fun:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: They would likely not have made the moves they have made so far if the plan was to "Stop at 12." It won't happen. More is coming, and it's all a part of a coordinated plan of attack. Refreshing isn't it? We're looking at the first competent regime at OBD since Polian. What move is that, 21 was there record. 22 was from letting Kansas move up and take a Franchise QB. Both Bills and KC did better than they should have to help Buffalo get a franchise QB. We got rid of a player useless last year to us with a big contract and moved 21 to 12. I see no real move to get a FRANCHISE QB here. They let KC do that!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: Maybe then they could get Giants to take McCoy and 12 and 65, Giants want a RB. We are not getting to 2 unless we give up everything. The Bills have 6 positions they need with approximately 35-39mil of cap space. They have very few backups. This team needs at least 4 picks in the top 3 rounds. Your spending everything they have to get Rosen or Darnold. You have NO idea who Cleveland is taking at 1. Bills move up they will not wait till 4 to take a QB. Why would you trade McCoy when drafting a rookie QB? McCoy is the perfect security blanket for a young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 37 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: I am not of the feeling Bills need to trade up any farther. At 12 they can get several really good players. Drafts never go as expected and Free Agency has allot to offer in QB's. Bills will definetly get a QB in Free Agency who will play next year and maybe one more year. I think Bills will sit at 12 and expect a QB falls to them and my bet is they are counting on Allen and will also take Jackson. They want worldly athletic talent and a project with huge upside. Both these guys fit that and won't have to start. If this falls though they will get a DT or DE whoever grades out better. This is among, one of the most unrealistic takes on the board. If the Bills aren’t going to a take a QB, they wouldn’t trade up. Its nearly certain, that the team will move up. Only question is...how high do they go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: Bunch of Fantasy players, don't realize the real cost. Teams that jump that far for a player usually over value and LOSE! I'm sorry you werent allowed to buy the team, Donny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said: Bunch of Fantasy players, don't realize the real cost. Teams that jump that far for a player usually over value and LOSE! Super Bowl Champion Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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