MAJBobby Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 33 minutes ago, #34fan said: Exactly... A Tyrod Taylor who doesn't hold the ball too long, -can locate the open man, and passes for more than 169 yards a game. And yet in his entire career has never maintained a starting job. I am amazed how many people just hate the idea of getting top end QB play and want to settle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: I find it funny that some people on here think you are getting playoff Foles. I hate to break it to people, but Foles is somewhere between last year playoffs and his Rams stint. Not worth much. He excels in the RPO, which is what the Eagles used in the Vikings and Cheaters games. As for his time with the Rams, I discount anyone's play on offense under Jeff Fisher. 21 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The reports are that they actually wanted more than the 1st and 4th they received for Bradford. IMO that's the "I don't want to sell" price they threw out knowing no team would pay it. More like in negotiations, you ask for a lot and then settle lower. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 24 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Foles and Tyrod couldn't be more different. Foles is a 6'6" pure pocket passer with no mobility but far better accuracy and anticipation. Really hmmmmmm both middling blah Bridge QBs. So in essence the same. Want better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, Doc said: He excels in the RPO, which is what the Eagles used in the Vikings and Cheaters games. As for his time with the Rams, I discount anyone's play on offense under Jeff Fisher. More like in negotiations, you ask for a lot and then settle lower. How about they really value him as cheap insurance and really don't want to trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: How about they really value him as cheap insurance and really don't want to trade him. They were willing to trade him for Tre White and a 3rd rounder. That tells me he's available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: They were willing to trade him for Tre White and a 3rd rounder. That tells me he's available. Where did you hear that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: They were willing to trade him for Tre White and a 3rd rounder. That tells me he's available. Where did you get that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Where did you get that from? From a source I trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 11 hours ago, 707BillsFan said: Saw this: "Foles is clearly a player the Eagles don’t want to give away for nothing, but keeping his $7.6 million cap hit doesn’t look like a realistic option either. The team probably has no option but to cash in its chips and trade Foles." So yes, Eagles need to trade him. Yes, I believe we should make a move for him, but don't give up too many picks. I say a 2nd and one other pick. Keep the 1's and the 3's intact (along w/ one of the 2's). Foles can man the ship for a year (the rest of this current contract) and let the drafted rookie QB sit and learn. Bonus, he's very cheap for a starting QB. I like Foles as a bridge option, but my fear is those picks are too much to give up for this team. Not that it's too high of a price to pay, it's just that I think the Bills want to trade up to get their guy. That alone will be extremely expensive, especially if we try to get to the top 2 or 3. If you give up picks for Foles as well, you come out of the draft with two quarterbacks and pretty much nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, Doc said: From a source I trust. So they asked for something they knew the Bills wouldn't do. Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: So they asked for something they knew the Bills wouldn't do. Gotcha. Like I said above, you start high and then work down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, Doc said: Like I said above, you start high and then work down. We'll find out soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: How about they really value him as cheap insurance and really don't want to trade him. Many people appear to discount this possibility, but I think it is real. If they trade and reno enough to get under the cap without trading Foles, we'll know they're at least somewhat serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Many people appear to discount this possibility, but I think it is real. If they trade and reno enough to get under the cap without trading Foles, we'll know they're at least somewhat serious Exactly. We'll have an inkling by Wednesday quite possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Doc said: They were willing to trade him for Tre White and a 3rd rounder. That tells me he's available. So they've said they want more than a 1st and a 4th, and they were willing to do a deal for a late 1st round pick who has proven he can play (higher value than a 1st rnd pick) and a 3rd round pick - sounds consistant. They're willing to deal if a team meets their price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Anyone heard a 2nd + Cordy Glenn for Foles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGBillsFan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 59 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Most recent reports I saw have the Eagles demanding a 1st and a 4th for Foles. Ironically, since Tyrod just netted basically a late 2nd round pick (the first pick of the 3rd), the Eagles can use that as leverage to get more for Foles, seeing as he is a solid bit more proven than Tyrod, including a superbowl MVP award a few weeks ago. I would consider Foles as a bridge QB especially at his cap figure but not for the price the Eagles are asking.....I think the Eagles will have to move off their asking price since they are in some cap trouble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 7 hours ago, mjt328 said: If the Bills are seriously considering trading a high draft pick for Nick Foles, I am hoping they are asking themselves a few simple questions: 1. What happened to Foles and his play during the 2014-2016 seasons? 2014 is an interesting question 2015: Jeff Fisher as head coach, Frank Cignetti then Rob Boras (now our TE coach) as OC 2016: he did a good job in limited action backing up Alex Smith: started 1 game, won, 410 yds passing and 3 TD/0 INT, 7.5 YPA 7 hours ago, mjt328 said: 2. Why was nobody in our organization interested in Foles when he was available during Free Agency exactly one year ago? I got nothing, but it should be pointed out Whaley and the (lame) Ducks were still here during FA 1 yr ago. Beane and his staff weren't here yet As a FA, Foles was also in a position to pick and choose, and he may have specifically wanted to go to Pederson as a Reid protege (I don't believe they overlapped) 7 hours ago, mjt328 said: 3. How much did their opinion of Foles change between January 20, 2018 and February 4, 2018? Maybe it didn't change at all 7 hours ago, mjt328 said: The cold hard facts. Most of the media saw Foles as a backup-level QB, and felt the Eagles were going to get easily knocked out by the Vikings in the Divisional Playoffs. Three weeks and two games later, he was suddenly a tremendous asset and best reserve in the league. That's true of every player who isn't already a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Foles Just turned 29. Good for 7-10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 He outdid the Patriots on the biggest stage there is. Enough said 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 2014 I think he broke his collarbone, or somebody probably did it for him. Think he struggled coming back from it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Turk71 said: 2014 I think he broke his collarbone, or somebody probably did it for him. Think he struggled coming back from it too. Yes, he broke his collarbone week 8. Was put on IR. 6-2 record. Mark Sanchez finished the season 4-4. 2015 he was traded to Rams in the Bradford QB swap. Bradford went 7-7 before getting injured again. Chip Kelly was fired during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, Doc said: From a source I trust. Is he from Dunkirk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, Turk71 said: 2014 I think he broke his collarbone, or somebody probably did it for him. Think he struggled coming back from it too. Correct: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000422133/article/eagles-nick-foles-broken-collarbone-out-68-weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: And yet in his entire career has never maintained a starting job. The superbowl he won makes up for that. -With plenty to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 11 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is the guy youy want to give up draft picks for. His career as an up and down performer says he's not worth it. The "up" part is staggeringly good - including beating Tom Brady and a simply spectacular post season. It's almost laughable what people are calling a backup QB. Look closely at those stats. At 24 and 25, he won 14 and lost 4, playing incredibly well. He had a single - single - bad season for a not very good team, then came back and beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, concluding a 3 game run. Not sure what you are saying is "up and down" here, but ok. I'll take that guy over anybody that is available, including Cousins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Turk71 said: Where did you hear that? I saw that on Twitter. Looked like rumors to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: The "up" part is staggeringly good - including beating Tom Brady and a simply spectacular post season. It's almost laughable what people are calling a backup QB. Look closely at those stats. At 24 and 25, he won 14 and lost 4, playing incredibly well. He had a single - single - bad season for a not very good team, then came back and beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, concluding a 3 game run. Not sure what you are saying is "up and down" here, but ok. I'll take that guy over anybody that is available, including Cousins. His 2013 passer rating was the 3rd highest in NFL history going back to at least 1941. Aaron Rodgers 2011 and Peyton Manning 2004 are the only ones higher. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_single_season.htm. Edited March 11, 2018 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 13 hours ago, Juice_32 said: Maybe you failed to read where I said he'd not prevent us from getting a rookie and I'd still get one. Why do you need him then if you are getting a rookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) Didn't foles light it up his first season? He definitely lit it up this post season too, consistent enough for me! Edited March 11, 2018 by BillsFan692 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Doc said: They were willing to trade him for Tre White and a 3rd rounder. That tells me he's available. Yikes..I don't like that at all. I thought the kid from ellessuu was untouchable ..I know McD loves him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Yikes..I don't like that at all. I thought the kid from ellessuu was untouchable ..I know McD loves him. He is saying the Eagles were willing, not the Bills. Tre is not going anywhere. Edited March 11, 2018 by Turk71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 15 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Philly has to knock off 9 mill from its cap before 4 pm ET March 14. Can they get there without trading Foles? After losing out in the Tyrod Taylor sweepstakes (felt good saying that), looks like it might come down to the Cardinals as the Bills, main competition. Dark Horse is the Colts who might move down from no. 3 and use part of the returns to reunite Frank Reich with the SB MVP. bottomline: I'd offer good odds on a trade for Foles happening the afternoon of March 14. The Colts are not moving on from Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 If the Bills can't move up in the draft and the top 5 QBs are gone including Lamar , #22 for Foles would be a option for me. I was hoping the Browns would sign Cousins , take Barkley at #1 and trade #4. Taylor would be too expensive a backup for Cousins. How much it took for Alex Smith surprised me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 9 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is he from Dunkirk? No idea. And I don't know his first name. But he's been dead-on before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Listen closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Listen closely. What am I listening for? He said everything that is already out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I offer a #3 for LUCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Ittakestime said: What am I listening for? He said everything that is already out there. Were you quoted when I posted this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Listen closely. It's almost like it's exactly what you and I have been saying all along to every person who keeps saying "GET FOLES HURR DURRR" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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