YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I agree, but the problem there is that every FA dollar you spend on one position, you can't spend it somewhere else...the same to be said regarding the Draft. So, if the Bills spend their FA money on Ivory and keep their money invested in Shady, they don't have the luxury of spending a 3rd round pick on a RB when they've already invested so much. Which for me, is one reason why I think it makes more sense to trade Shady. That same 3rd round pick would need to be a DT / LB or Offensive lineman if you're keeping Shady and obviously paying Ivory. ? why is that? They need to add more RBs, they can easily take Shady’s future replacement in this draft and add him to the arsenal for 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Bill Barnwell is the worst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, Screwball said: Cadet and Ivory are the same age. Both 29, not likely getting any better. Cadet is 29?? I had no idea. Thought he was like 25 or 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: My one concern: Douglas Marrone let him go and he loves those kind of RB's. Or was this a strict cap related move? I’m 95% sure it was a cap move, they have a bunch of FAs coming up soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, WMDman said: I’m 95% sure it was a cap move, they have a bunch of FAs coming up soon They only had like 10 mill in cap space before they extended bortles, which helped some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 This seems like a pretty poor signing on the surface, but maybe it suggests that the front office isn't planning on spending much in free agency so that they were okay paying Ivory this much. I suppose it at least allows Buffalo to focus on getting a good RB in the draft rather than specifically looking for a power back, but I can't help but think that Buffalo could have gotten a better option signed at a cheaper price. 5 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: did they give him league minimum? he's not done well the last couple years. They're paying him like a starting RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Love this pickup for the Bills. Ivory runs hard and a great RB2. I think we should draft a RB also. I like Royce Freeman, Oregon. Big physical runner that is shifty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 If Cadet comes back, Buffalo has to be the league leader in 29 yo+ running backs. Story of this thread though might be OP beating the usual suspects with this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 OMG! I am having a panic attack...I'm not used to this...someone send me a double scotch...please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, DCOrange said: This seems like a pretty poor signing on the surface, but maybe it suggests that the front office isn't planning on spending much in free agency so that they were okay paying Ivory this much. I suppose it at least allows Buffalo to focus on getting a good RB in the draft rather than specifically looking for a power back, but I can't help but think that Buffalo could have gotten a better option signed at a cheaper price. They're paying him like a starting RB. Not really - it’s 2 yrs 5 mill. A lot of the “starting RB” salaries are skewed because they are on rookie deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wondering if the lower guaranteed salary. Is to help him keep his social security checks... So much for getting younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Not really - it’s 2 yrs 5 mill. A lot of the “starting RB” salaries are skewed because they are on rookie deals. Isn't that kind of the point though? Buffalo could have easily gotten someone on a rookie deal that would likely be a better player too. He's roughly one of the 20 highest paid RBs next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ? why is that? They need to add more RBs, they can easily take Shady’s future replacement in this draft and add him to the arsenal for 2018. I agree they will most likely Draft a RB. But when you consider their FA money position, plus their gaping holes at DT / LB / WR and some real depth issues at CB / Offensive line, there are only so many valued resources that can be allocated. So, taking a RB in the 4th is probably a better value than taking a DT in the 4th given their positional demand in McD's scheme. That's all....and if for some reason the Bills don't trade up or expend additional Draft picks, then using a 3rd round on a RB is more amenable but still silly if they keep Shady. 1st to 3rd round - and it's just IMHO before I get roasted - should be for anticipated starters. The 4th round on are guys you think have real potential but you're not completely sure and it may take time or it may never happen....why would a team in such desperate need for younger talent, take a guy in the 3rd round they have no intention of starting at a position that a 3rd rounder just won OROY?? To me, positional value says that if Shady stays, RB in the 4th is the sweet spot for them. And with that, they can STILL Draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round and have a nice tandem if they so choose next year when Shady is a FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Ivory? Could not care less. I'm thinking his best days are behind him. in fact, this is the kind of signing that makes me harken back to other 'veteran' signings from years past in which the guy never makes it out of training camp before deciding he's not all that interested in playing anymore. (Hoping not, this time.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 45 minutes ago, Steptide said: Also, this in all likelyhood means Tolbert is gone, which is awesome Not necessarily. He takes over the RB2 spot, but I could see Tolbert kept for Special Teams and RB/FB back up. There's always a couple Teams guys on a roster outside the K, P, LS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 We got a short yardage pounder that can give shady a breather and is hard to tackle which should diminish those Tolbert being tackled in the backfield when shady steps out for a breather plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Isn't that kind of the point though? Buffalo could have easily gotten someone on a rookie deal that would likely be a better player too. He's roughly one of the 20 highest paid RBs next season. Again. They will also draft one on a rookie deal. They only had Shady and Marcus Murphy under contract. They needed more RBs. McD likes to have some vets who know what they are doing in addition to rookies. The only RBs he makes more than are on rookie deals or a team’s 3rd-4th option. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/running-back/ Daboll is used to an offense that has a stable of RBs that can do different things in NE and Bama. Not a guy who carries it 30 times a game with crap behind him. Look for at least 2 more RBs to be added. this draft is so deep at RB that they can get a future starter in the 5th rd imo They are likely going to be able to move both TT and Glenn and have more cap and picks too Edited March 6, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Ivory has decent hands too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Good solid 2 yr signing. His contract will not kill us. Now let's wave goodbye to Tolbert and Dimarco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Barnwell No Likey! Regardless, he's a good 2nd option who doesn't factor into the comp pick formula for 2019. Fournette their star running back averaged 3.9 ypc.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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