TakeYouToTasker Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, garybusey said: The chart above has asterisks and footnotes though. Some, but the data was still able to be collated fairly easily because of uniformity of definitions. When the definitions vary, it's far more difficult as Levi says. But still, even if we wish we had more recent data, how does it render data from 2013 invalid? The OECD is a legitimate international organization whose member states are all in the developed world, and 2013 is recent enough that there haven't been any major cultural or technological shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Right wing media going after the survivors of the massacre. What sewer rats https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/02/21/i-am-not-a-crisis-actor-florida-teens-fire-back-at-right-wing-conspiracy-theorists/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_mix-teentheories-11am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.6364182666d1 Quote The students have become a mobilizing force unlike any seen after previous mass shootings, planning marches and rallies in Florida and Washington — all while mourning the friends they’ve so recently lost. They have also become a target of right-wing smears and innuendo. Some prominent figures in the right-wing media are suggesting that the students are making it all up, or that the children are paid actors or that their talking points have been manufactured by public relations experts on the left. An aide to a Florida legislator was even fired Tuesday after claiming two survivors who spoke to CNN were not students, but instead “actors that travel to various crisis when they happen.” While these claims have no basis, they spread quickly in conservative circles on social media and among popular right-wing commentators. Some, such as conservative author and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza, mocked the Florida teenagers. “How interesting to hear students who can’t support themselves for one day giving us lectures about American social policy,” he tweeted early on Tuesday. It was liked more than 22,000 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 11:39 AM, B-Man said: One of our biggest problems stares us straight in the face. When Will We Have the Guts to Link Fatherlessness to School Shootings? by Susan Goldberg Original Article Now that the gun control advocates have had their fifteen minutes of fame, let’s start focusing on the real issues impacting the rise in school shootings since that infamous day in Columbine in 1999. Issue number one that no one in the mainstream media or government wants to acknowledge: fatherlessness. Specifically, the impact of fatherlessness on the boys who grew up to become school shooters. Dr. Warren Farrell, author of the new book The Boy Crisis, explains: Minimal or no father involvement, whether due to divorce, death, or imprisonment, is common to Adam Lanza, Elliott Rodgers, Dylan Roof and Stephen Paddock. . Here is a list of out of wedlock births in European countries, some/many of which are pretty high, Where are the school mass shootings there? https://www.statista.com/statistics/276802/births-out-of-wedlock-in-the-eu/ In Latin America the rate is over50%, where are the school shootings there? It's a bogus argument On 2/19/2018 at 1:12 PM, LABillzFan said: Yep. I would argue it's one of the most critical issues of our time. Unfortunately, we see it primarily in the poor minority communities (over 77% of black children are born to a single mother) , and whenever anyone -- even a person of color -- tries to point this out from a position of self-accountability and -responsibility, it turns into a shouting match about something other than the problem. But let's take the guns. Because everyone knows if someone wants to kill a bunch of people, and make it illegal to get a weapon, they'll change their mind and choose to not kill anyone. Throw every problem at the black people, all their friggin fault for everything. I can't remember a black person shooting up a school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 WaPo attacks the GOP? that has credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 29 minutes ago, row_33 said: WaPo attacks the GOP? that has credibility Truth (WaPo) vs Lies (right wing media) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: In Latin America the rate is over50%, where are the school shootings there? The shooters are here in MS-13 and other gangs. Edited February 21, 2018 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 According to one schoolgirl speaker in Tallahassee today the solution to the problem is to say "Never Again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: According to one schoolgirl speaker in Tallahassee today the solution to the problem is to say "Never Again". Probably one of the same people that bitches about thoughts and prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Probably one of the same people that bitches about thoughts and prayers. Damn....you can find something awful to say at will huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Probably one of the same people that bitches about thoughts and prayers. Harris Faulkner ended her interview with a schoolboy and told him that she wanted him to know that everybody's thoughts and prayers were with them and he said something along the lines of "that's fine but do something about it" and he said it in a very rude manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Harris Faulkner ended her interview with a schoolboy and told him that she wanted him to know that everybody's thoughts and prayers were with them and he said something along the lines of "that's fine but do something about it" and he said it in a very rude manner. As per the script. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Forgive me for not digging deeper, but did anyone bring up the big story making the rounds titled "I bought an AR-15 in 5 minutes with an expired ID," written by a 20-year-old who actually didn't by an AR-15, but asked if he could, and then left the store to write his hot new article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, LABillzFan said: Forgive me for not digging deeper, but did anyone bring up the big story making the rounds titled "I bought an AR-15 in 5 minutes with an expired ID," written by a 20-year-old who actually didn't by an AR-15, but asked if he could, and then left the store to write his hot new article? Yes. Gary busy defended the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, baskin said: Damn....you can find something awful to say at will huh? It's not difficult. People are hypocrites, and they suck. I just observe it, so don't shoot the messenger. But if you do, don't forget the thoughts and prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It's not difficult. People are hypocrites, and they suck. I just observe it, so don't shoot the messenger. But if you do, don't forget the thoughts and prayers. You are hardly just a messenger... Holy crap I come here every two week for some reason.... Do you regulars have any concept how effed up you are? How rationlized your world has become.....basically how simply awful you are....Thank god you all seem to have nothing better to do than live on this god forsaken site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, baskin said: You are hardly just a messenger... Are you high? ALL I do here is deconstruct hypocrisy. I'm nothing but a messenger. You and gator are just too blinded by your own stupidity to notice anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 4 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Correct. The data is through 2013. That's how data works. Were you hoping I would provide data from the future? Or are you saying that data from 2013 is no longer relevant because humans and society are vastly different from how we were way back in 2013 in the Mesozoic Era? And while that particular website no longer exists, the data it collated from the OECD, referenced in the chat, does. Because...Net Neutrality! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 3 hours ago, garybusey said: The chart above has asterisks and footnotes though. Does it have twenty seven eight-by-ten color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Forgive me for not digging deeper, but did anyone bring up the big story making the rounds titled "I bought an AR-15 in 5 minutes with an expired ID," written by a 20-year-old who actually didn't by an AR-15, but asked if he could, and then left the store to write his hot new article? Edited February 22, 2018 by jmc12290 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, baskin said: You are hardly just a messenger... Holy crap I come here every two week for some reason.... Do you regulars have any concept how effed up you are? How rationlized your world has become.....basically how simply awful you are....Thank god you all seem to have nothing better to do than live on this god forsaken site... How rationalized our world is? Ya mean no candied ass little emotional pussies? Yes. We are aware I'd bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, baskin said: Do you regulars have any concept how effed up you are? How rationlized your world has become.....basically how simply awful you are... No, please elaborate. Provide examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 32 minutes ago, Koko78 said: No, please elaborate. Provide examples. We're literally Nazis, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: We're literally Nazis, remember? I gassed 200 Jews today. What'd the rest of you accomplish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I gassed 200 Jews today. What'd the rest of you accomplish? I had a military parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I gassed 200 Jews today. What'd the rest of you accomplish? I made the trains run on time... over some Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 51 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: I had a military parade. I deliberately misread Nietzsche’s Ecce Homo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: I deliberately misread Nietzsche’s Ecce Homo So you're a homophobe as well as a Nazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: So you're a homophobe as well as a Nazi. Then me deliberately misread the preface of Freud’s Civilization and it’s Discontents. Edited February 22, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: I gassed 200 Jews today. What'd the rest of you accomplish? I made a case for freedom of speech. Then I made 100 gypsies dig their own mass grave. Edited February 22, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I whistled Wagner’s Siegfried Idyll outside the premiere of my wheelchair-bound directing friend’s movie, then withstood the rabid attack of a man who didn’t like me whistling Wagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I'm sorta late to the party but I did sing some songs, and I remember one of them was "The hills are alive........................................................." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 7 hours ago, DC Tom said: I gassed 200 Jews today. What'd the rest of you accomplish? I insisted that the 2nd amendment was as important as the first...then burned three Czech villages and killed all their inhabitants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, DC Tom said: Are you high? ALL I do here is deconstruct hypocrisy. I'm nothing but a messenger. You and gator are just too blinded by your own stupidity to notice anything but. You're an idiot. Delusional. Edited February 22, 2018 by LA Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 2/20/2018 at 12:19 PM, DC Tom said: You lost the argument at "civilian model assault weapon." The anti-gun lobby would do much better if they knew anything about what they were talking about. You have no argument. You are just pedantic for the sake of pedantry. You are a stupid person. On 2/19/2018 at 11:12 AM, LABillzFan said: Yep. I would argue it's one of the most critical issues of our time. Unfortunately, we see it primarily in the poor minority communities (over 77% of black children are born to a single mother) , and whenever anyone -- even a person of color -- tries to point this out from a position of self-accountability and -responsibility, it turns into a shouting match about something other than the problem. But let's take the guns. Because everyone knows if someone wants to kill a bunch of people, and make it illegal to get a weapon, they'll change their mind and choose to not kill anyone. Attaboy. Father-less households are the most critical issues of our time. Really great point here. No, I'm serious. You're totally right. That's exactly what killed all of these people. They didn't have fathers! Are you an author outside of here? You ought to be! You're SMART. Yes, we should blame anything but guns. ANYTHING! It quite literally doesn't need to make any sense, be connected to reality, or even this specific example. Everything is okay as long as guns are not receiving any blame (apologies to guns for even putting them near the word 'blame'). Did Fabio admire your guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) I can’t understand how there is so much hate for america around the world? Oh, wait, it’s full of americans. Edited February 22, 2018 by thebug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, thebug said: I can’t understand how there I so much hate for america around the world? Oh, wait, it’s full of americans. No one cares. I’d hate too if I had to ice fish to make ends meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: No one cares. I’d hate too if I had to ice fish to make ends meet. That’s pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 9 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I made a case for freedom of speech. Then I made 100 gypsies dig their own mass grave. I condemn the death of the Innocents children and minorities at the hands of in authoritative militant police. But then I got it over real good when I did bombing strikes killing civilians at 10 times the rate of a bad guy because I was too kitty to send in ground forces or do more than just talk I've killed like tens of thousands of innocent people, I'm pretty much Hitler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, thebug said: That’s pretty clear. So we can drop the whole “ no one likes you” junior high routine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I've killed like tens of thousands of innocent people, I'm pretty much Hitler You know who else was pretty much Hitler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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